Baptism question that seems unbiblical

[Triumph1300]

The people who are pushing the 2ed coming are fools,

Jesus said he'll come again.

come out from such mobs

Yes, come out from the mob that denies the 2nd coming.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Yes.
That's old news.
And if people are not born again they will not see the Kingdom.

Well they can't get in can they, because they are not of the Kingdom of God, there is a list in the Bible of the people who can't get in, problem is the RCC and others with there New News is that they are being supported in such depravity and if such do support such things, then that is proof such a church are not of the Kingdom of God and are leading others astray = such are truly then of Satan.

 

[bbyrd009]

ppl tend to get quite emo about their beliefs

Shinar (Sumer)
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[Ernest T. Bass]

Our Pastor after 20 years of service, retired last year. The new Pastor said, baptism is just water. He claimed, he would baptize us 3, 4, or 5 times...as many times as it took to get it right. Is this even biblical.See, I thought we was to place our faith in the Lord. That God would do as He promised. Getting rebaptized so often by the same Pastor, would make one doubt the Pastor whom was baptizing and also doubt God. Too me, it seemed odd, so my wife and I, went to another church. We took it, that the new Pastor was a false prophet. Thank you for a response..

If one was not scripturally baptized (Acts 19:4-5) he would need to be baptized scripturally and once baptized scripturally he need not be re-baptized for any reason. In Acts 8:13 Simon believed and was baptized (per Christ's words of Mk 16:16) but later sinned. He was not told to be re-baptized but instead commanded to repent (v22). When one is water baptized that is the beginning point of Christ's blood washing away all sins and as long as the baptized one continues to walk in the light (which includes continued confessing and repenting of sins), then the blood of Christ continues to wash away all sins. (1 John 1:7).

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Baptising is for the repentance of sin.
It's for the unsaved sinner to come and deal with his repentance before God.
So one can repent and hopefully come to deal with his sinful nature some what is the hope to learn to deal with it.
It does not washaway the Sin by becoming baptised as the act, one must truly repent before God.

Satan came to Jesus after he was baptised and Jesus used the OT to point out just who Satan was and Jesus just dismissed Satan's temptations, just as we understand who it is we are dealing with, if you do not truly understand what you are dealing with you are lost.

Jesus never destroyed Satan, Jesus showed us who he is and how to deal with that twat so we would not be under such Domination and Slavery in the works of man, God is above Satan and Satan knows this but Satan is the nature of man at work, not the Holy Spirit at work in man.
One does not get the Holy Spirit in Baptism, but is part of a community of such in Gods Church with hope and outside of the Church (the body of Christ) their is no hope, such is the body abiding in Jesus Christ, one has as it is given to you with in the body of Christ, some a little and so on but all are of that body community regardless, but one can be kicked out but still is baptised.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I can tell if a person who is Born again by talking to them and one who is not because they are dead to the Holy Spirit and start peddling mans works and it's best to come out from such mobs.

That's one of the most arrogant and spiritually prideful things I've ever heard.

YOU don't know anything about whether a person is born again or not.
Only GOD knows the heart. Sell your drivel somewhere else . . .

 

[Triumph1300]

I think Reggie Belafonte is right.
The Bible says you shall know them by their fruits.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

That's one of the most arrogant and spiritually prideful things I've ever heard.

YOU don't know anything about whether a person is born again or not.
Only GOD knows the heart. Sell your drivel somewhere else . . .

Nathaniel knew who Jesus Christ was dear breadoflife did he not.
We shall know them by their fruits for sure, sadly because they sell a jesus that's not biblical or of the Holy Spirit.
Sorry to say mans works religion is a curse and Pope Frances is a curse because he is in fact peddling a mans works and this is as clear as can be, I am have had a gut full of him bro ! mixing Islam with Christianity, oh no ! what a fool, such is of the Anti-Christ, can't you see that good buddy.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Oh I can't just by talking to them instantly on the spire of the moment say, but it takes time to get to know if one is genuinely of the Holy Spirit.
But if they are selling a jesus well then I will know that's their game for sure.

I remember a Priest saying that only about 10% in his church were genuine believers and he did not know what was the go was with all the others, as he could not truly work out why they would be bothered to come. yes he knew them who were and were not, it's more of a feeling of sadness for them because you know they are lukewarm.
The Born again is to be on fire for Jesus Christ and it hits you wham ! and it's lets go and get into talking Jesus.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nathaniel knew who Jesus Christ was dear breadoflife did he not.
We shall know them by their fruits for sure, sadly because they sell a jesus that's not biblical or of the Holy Spirit.
Sorry to say mans works religion is a curse and Pope Frances is a curse because he is in fact peddling a mans works and this is as clear as can be, I am have had a gut full of him bro ! mixing Islam with Christianity, oh no ! what a fool, such is of the Anti-Christ, can't you see that good buddy.

And you only accuse him of these tings because of your abject ignorance of Scripture.
You don't understand what faith is because you actually believe that it DOESN'T include works - even though the Word of GOD says it DOES (James 2:14-26) . . .

"Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ" - St. Jerome

 

[BreadOfLife]

I think Reggie Belafonte is right.
The Bible says you shall know them by their fruits.

Sure it does - but it NEVER tells us that we can judge a person's heart or a person's soul. ONLY their deeds.
Only GOD can judge the heart (Rom. 2:1-11).

 

[Triumph1300]

Sure it does - but it NEVER tells us that we can judge a person's heart or a person's soul. ONLY their deeds.
Only GOD can judge the heart (Rom. 2:1-11).

Wouldn't you think that if the fruits are bad, the heart is bad as well?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Wouldn't you think that if the fruits are bad, the heart is bad as well?

I can think all I want. I can even say that with pretty good evidence, it MAY be true.
But, I cannot judge a man's heart or soul because only GOD is capable of that.

For Reggie Belafonte to say with certainty that he "knows" if a person is born again or NOT. is an offense to God.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

And you only accuse him of these tings because of your abject ignorance of Scripture.
You don't understand what faith is because you actually believe that it DOESN'T include works - even though the Word of GOD says it DOES (James 2:14-26) . . .

"Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ" - St. Jerome

In the Book of James, the works he was talking of was in the workings of the Holy Spirit and anyone who is born again would know that fact, he is not talking about mans works at all.

I do understand what faith is, in fact there is oh you of little faith is Biblical don't you know and the Faith that can move mountain's, because one has faith well that's good but you need more than blind faith I can assure you because blind faith will not get you very far, because it can fail.

Where am I ignorant of Scripture bread, oh I offended your idol the Pope for being a idiot and a fool who is in bed with Islam and Satanist.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I can think all I want. I can even say that with pretty good evidence, it MAY be true.
But, I cannot judge a man's heart or soul because only GOD is capable of that.

For Reggie Belafonte to say with certainty that he "knows" if a person is born again or NOT. is an offense to God.

Thing is bread, that I have faith in them that they are born again, that's correct I do have faith in them because I know them.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Thing is bread, that I have faith in them that they are born again, that's correct I do have faith in them because I know them.

And that is your problem.
You shouldn't have faith in in ANYBODY but God.

ALL my faith is in God.
NONE of it is on flawed, sinful men . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

In the Book of James, the works he was talking of was in the workings of the Holy Spirit and anyone who is born again would know that fact, he is not talking about mans works at all.

I do understand what faith is, in fact there is oh you of little faith is Biblical don't you know and the Faith that can move mountain's, because one has faith well that's good but you need more than blind faith I can assure you because blind faith will not get you very far, because it can fail.

WRONG.

What the Epistle of James teaches us is that belief alone is not faith. Works alone are not faith.
Faith = Belief + Works.

Where am I ignorant of Scripture bread, oh I offended your idol the Pope for being a idiot and a fool who is in bed with Islam and Satanist.

And there you go again with your stupid, unsubstantiated nonsense because you lost another round . . .

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

And that is your problem.
You shouldn't have faith in in ANYBODY but God.

ALL my faith is in God.
NONE of it is on flawed, sinful men . . .

I thought you had faith in the Pope ?

I do have faith in people for sure, as Jesus had faith in people and he said go to the Israelites to them who he loved, so I am sure he had faith in them to do his will.

I have faith in some people to do a job I set them to do, some fully and some not so much or I would not put them on, how's this bread that you say to me to build a house for you and I turn around and say well I have no faith in my workers at all and I don't have any faith in that you will pay or could pay, but god may do the work somehow for us while I and you go and drink and take drugs living in a fantasy world. god will build it for us ?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

WRONG.

What the Epistle of James teaches us is that belief alone is not faith. Works alone are not faith.
Faith = Belief + Works.

And there you go again with your stupid, unsubstantiated nonsense because you lost another round . . .

Faith is the substance of and that is belief in why you do something.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I thought you had faith in the Pope ?

I do have faith in people for sure, as Jesus had faith in people and he said go to the Israelites to them who he loved, so I am sure he had faith in them to do his will.

I have faith in some people to do a job I set them to do, some fully and some not so much or I would not put them on, how's this bread that you say to me to build a house for you and I turn around and say well I have no faith in my workers at all and I don't have any faith in that you will pay or could pay, but god may do the work somehow for us while I and you go and drink and take drugs living in a fantasy world. god will build it for us ?

No - I have a brotherly trust in some people but I only have faith n God.