Jun2u
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So, does the 1000 years mean 1000 years or not?
Why do you answer my question with a question?
If it does, what takes place in that time? If it doesn't, why not?
Why don't you tell me, I'm looking for answers to my questions?
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So, does the 1000 years mean 1000 years or not?
If it does, what takes place in that time? If it doesn't, why not?
Does "Thousand Years" below represent "One Day"?So, does the 1000 years mean 1000 years or not? If it does, what takes place in that time? If it doesn't, why not?
Stranger
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels
What does it mean to you?What does the phrase "into everlasting fire" mean to you?
What does it mean to you?
Same Final Judgment To The Lake Of Fire Seen Below.You were the one who keeps quoting Matthew 25 again and again on this thread. I merely asked if you understood verse 41.
Many Christians do not really understand what the phrase "into everlasting fire" means. I, of course, know what it means. If you don't want to divulge it's meaning so be it. No problem
Does "Thousand Years" below represent "One Day"?
If So Why, Please Explain?
2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Does The Lord Own The Cattle On Just "One Thousand" Hills?
Psalm 50:10KJV
For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.
The term thousand years is one day with the Lord was written to clearly show the believer there is "No Earthly Time" in the Lords Spiritual Realm, Jesus Christ Is Outside Of Time In The Eternal Realm.No.
No.
Stranger
The term "one thousand years" is only found In Revelation 20 six times, yet there is no passage of a one thousand years reign of Jesus on earth to be found there.
Many modern theologians and Bible students believe in the one thousand years reign of Christ on earth. Can anyone through Scriptures show me where this is found? Thank you.
The millennial period is identified as the 'kingdom of God' on earth as promised by God to Israel and is accomplished through the fulfillment of the covenants. This is found throughout the Old Testament and New.
Stranger
The term thousand years is one day with the Lord was written to clearly show the believer there is "No Earthly Time" in the Lords Spiritual Realm, Jesus Christ Is Outside Of Time In The Eternal Realm.
Revelation 20:1-6 Represents this and "Thousand Years" was used in the figurative/symbolic sense, not literal.
Same applies to Psalm 50:10, figurative/symbolic not literal.
The Lord owns the cattle upon all hills, not just 1000.
2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Psalm 50:10KJV
For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.
Revelation 16:12-13 & Revelation 20:7-8 are parallel teachings of the same future events, when satan is loosed to go out and deceive the nations to the final battle, the angel in Revelation 16:12 currently has satan bound and sealed, as the 6th vial must be poured out for satan to be loose.
A Temporary 1000 year kingdom is not found throughout the bible, the only claim to this false teaching is in Revelation 20:1-6
There are many places throughout the Old Testament That Show A Kingdom, But In "All Cases" it represents the "Eternal Kingdom" or a Kingdom already historically fulfilled.
Example: Isaiah 65, Eternal New Heavens And Earth, Not A Temporary 1000 Year Kingdom.
Ezekiel 47, Eternal Kingdom, Tree And River Of Life Present.
Zechariah 14, Eternal Kingdom, River Of Life, Eternal Light Present.
You mean those that have a predetermined biased prejudice in creating a 1000 year kingdom on earth, thats not found in the scripture.Just because one holds to the 1000 year millennium, does not mean they deny the eternal kingdom of God.
Stranger
You mean those that have a predetermined biased prejudice in creating a 1000 year kingdom on earth, thats not found in the scripture.
- As far as a future Literal 1000 year millennium on this earth, no such thing in the holy bible.
When Jesus returns, it will be in fire and "Final Judgment", dissolvong this earth by his fire, 2 Peter 3:10, Malachi 3:2, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8, Luke 17:29-30, Nahum 1:5
Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lords spiritual realm, with spiritual beings, there is no physical earthly kingdom seen or represented whatsoever.
Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ, 100% spiritual world, no literal earthly kingdom is seen.
Revelation 20 KJV
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Many are taught that Matthew 25:31-46sheep/goat judgment takes place to judge those worthy to enter a millennial kingdom on this earth?
False, as this is the "Final Judgment"
As verse 41 shows the wicked are judged to the "eternal lake of fire", and verse 46 shows the righteous obtain "eternal life".
Matthew 25:31-46KJV
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Just because one holds to a belief in Aliens, Darth Vader, The Seven Dwarfs, Winnie The Pooh, as being real literal beings, does not mean they don't believe in the judgment's of God.Just because one holds to the millennium period of 1000 years, does not meant they don't believe in the judgements of God.
Stranger
Just because one holds to a belief in Aliens, Darth Vader, Santa Claus, The Seven Dwarfs, as being real literal beings, does not mean they don't believe in a judgment of God.
Yes, the belief in a 1000 year kingdom on this earth is a fairy tale, found no place in the scripture.
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There is no earthly kingdom seen in Revelation 20:1-6 for 1000 years, where mortal humans are present, living and dying as Jesus Christ sit's on a earthly throne.You resort to the same type of argument the atheist uses against the believer.
It is not a fairy tale as it is clearly mentioned in (Rev. 20:1-10). And it is found throughout the Scripture.
Stranger
There is no earthly kingdom seen in Revelation 20:1-6 for 1000 years, where mortal humans are present, living and dying as Jesus Christ sit's on a earthly throne.
Jesus Christ Isn't In The Business Of Being A Funeral Director, Sitting On His Throne.
This is a "Fairy Tale" teaching espoused by John N. Darby, C.I. Scofield, and Dispensationalism.
Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lords spiritual realm, with spiritual beings, there is no physical earthly kingdom seen or represented whatsoever.
Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ, 100% spiritual world, no literal earthly kingdom is seen.
Revelation 20 KJV
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Your claim of Revelation 20:7-8 being part of your claimed 1000 year kingdom is 100% false, as the 1000 years are expired and passed in verses 7-8?Well, yours is not the final word in that matter. And you have not proven that the 1000 year reign of Christ upon the earth will not exist. Though you have said it many times.
If you read the book of Revelation, you will see that spiritual and physical are seen. Your division of spiritual and earthly doesn't work. (Rev. 20:7-8) is clear that the earth is very much involved in this spiritual war. "...Satan shall be loosed....And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,..."
Darby and Scofield were proponents of the millennium and Dispensationalism. To which I am also. Doesn't make it a fairy tale.
Stranger