Earth, Created to stand forever

[Harvest 1874]

I have not found anywhere in scripture that there will be other living beings, intelligent or not inhabited on other world's. Isn't this just speculation?

Yes that it is, but it is base on sound reasoning, if the Lord did not create the earth in vain, but created it to be inhabited, why then did he create the myriads of other worlds?

 

[Harvest 1874]

If you are going to be speculative, why not say since the physical universe is man plane of existence, after man is perfected he will eventually colonize other planets through out the universe.

I believe I already suggested that before somewhere.

 

[verzanumi24]

3. As for Jesus' return and the saints reigning with Him, that is a big topic of its own...and you have already not represented it accurately. Indeed, the saints are as kings and do reign even now.

I'm about to bring up more to sort through or think about.

If that were true, would the world be in the mess that's it's in now? If that were true, Jesus wouldn't be pleased at all at the poor job they are doing. The Bible say that it's at the return of Jesus that the saints will rule. What the saints are commission to do now is to preach the kingdom of God, use their gifts to influence the world teach those who believe the gospel. And most of those who call themselves christains are not even doing that. To them, it's going to church, sing some hymns, put money in the collection plate and read a few scriptures.....all religion but no impact on the community, city, State and Country to make it better. They sit by and allow people in the world to take over everything....the movies, sports, business, schools, the media. Most of them don't own anything to pass on to their children and grandchildren, even though the Bible say a fathers and grandfathers should be doing.

Because fathers in the Church were storing up wealth for their children, they fully understood what Paul was saying when he likened himself to a father to them.

2 Corinthians 12:14 (HCSB)
14 Now I am ready to come to you this third time. I will not burden you, for I am not seeking what is yours, but you. For children are not obligated to save up for their parents, but parents for their children.

How many christian fathers have inheritance to pass on to their own children and their grandchildren to give them a head start in life, or at least taking steps to do so?
Proverbs 13:22 (HCSB)
22 A good man leaves an inheritance to his grandchildren, but the sinner’s wealth is stored up for the righteous.

I don't think even .1 percent are doing that, which makes them worst than an unbeliever the scipture say.

1 Timothy 5:8 (HCSB)
8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, that is his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.


Now, back to what we were talking about. Paul wouldn't have said what he said to the Corinthian Church if they were already reigning.

1 Corinthians 4:8 (HCSB)
8 You are already full! You are already rich! You have begun to reign as kings without us—and I wish you did reign, so that we could also reign with you!

 

[verzanumi24]

Yes that it is, but it is base on sound reasoning, if the Lord did not create the earth in vain, but created it to be inhabited, why then did he create the myriads of other worlds?

But that's the Earth it's referring to not other planets. Other than angels that God created, the Bible didn't tell us that God created any other life on any plant or planets beside for the Earth. Of course it's reasonable to say that God intends to have all the other planets inhabited. But that is where human beings come in. They are the ones who will be doing it....this is why man(male and female) were made in God's image.

 

[Truth7t7]

But that's the Earth it's referring to not other planets. Other than angels that God created, the Bible didn't tell us that God created any other life on any plant or planets beside for the Earth. Of course it's reasonable to say that God intends to have all the other planets inhabited. But that is where human beings come in. They are the ones who will be doing it....this is why man(male and female) were made in God's image.

God Did not create other planets to be inhabited, a false teaching found in Mormonism.

Please provide scripture to support your claim.

 

[verzanumi24]

God Did not create other planets to be inhabited, a false teaching found in Mormonism.

Please provide scripture to support your claim.

First thing: I'm not interested or care what the mormon teach of believe.

So you are saying that God created the planets and galixies for no reason at all. This is like saying someone build a house but have no intention of having anyone live in it. I don't know about you, but the God I know is a purpose full God. Everything that God has created has a purpose. He never do anything for no logical reason. If God didn't intend for planets to be inhabited He wouldn't have created them.

The Bible say that those who overcome will inhert all things. All things is not limited to the Earth.

 

[Truth7t7]

First thing: I'm not interested or care what the mormon teach of believe.

So you are saying that God created the planets and galixies for no reason at all. This is like saying someone build a house but have no intention of having anyone live in it. I don't know about you, but the God I know is a purpose full God. Everything that God has created has a purpose. He never do anything for no logical reason. If God didn't intend for planets to be inhabited He wouldn't have created them.

The Bible say that those who overcome will inhert all things. All things is not limited to the Earth.

Provide scripture to support your claims, not your desires and dreams.

 

[verzanumi24]

Provide scripture to support your claims, not your desires and dreams.

I already told you that the scripture say that those who overcome will inherit all things.

Revelation 21:7 (KJV)
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

When God say all things, He means all, and that includes the universe.


The scripture also say that the saints are joint heirs with Christ.

Romans 8:16-23 (KJV)
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

The verse above is saying creation was made subjected to vanity, so when the children of God have been liberated the creation will also be liberated as well. The creation is by it's desolation is groaning to be liberated, but will only be liberated after the sons of God have been liberated from theirs. I hope you understand that creation is not limited to the Earth.....it includes the universe, which at this point is desolate. It's potential is not yet seen.


The scripture also say that Jesus is upholding all things by His word.

Hebrews 1:3 (KJV)
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Jesus is the one who is upholding or sustaining all things by speaking to creation. So the saints are joint heirs with Christ, then it means they too will not only inherit what Jesus have, but they too will be assisting Jesus in upholding all things.

The Bible say that the saints will be like Jesus because they will see Him as He is.

1 John 3:2 (KJV)
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Who is Jesus? He's the Word. Who is the Word? The one who became Jesus. So in other words, the saints will be like God. To be like God/Jesus is just that, to be like Him. Whatever Jesus/God does, so will the saints be doing.


Why do you think Jesus said ALL things are possible for the one who believe or have faith even as small as a mustard seed.

Mark 9:23 (KJV)
23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.


Jesus didn't say some things or most things are possible for the one who believes....He said ALL THINGS. If He said that about human beings while they were still mortal, just image what will be possible when the saints are glorified?

Now, since the saints will be like Jesus/God, is it that farfetched to believe that just like God, they will also will be creating and sustaining life, and that God created the universe for just that purpose?

 

[Harvest 1874]

But that's the Earth it's referring to not other planets. Other than angels that God created, the Bible didn't tell us that God created any other life on any plant or planets beside for the Earth. Of course it's reasonable to say that God intends to have all the other planets inhabited. But that is where human beings come in. They are the ones who will be doing it....this is why man(male and female) were made in God's image.

I never said God created any life on any other planet, where did you get that from?

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

I believe I already suggested that before somewhere.

As long as everyone understands this is just speculation.

 

[ScottA]

If that were true, would the world be in the mess that's it's in now?

In this old earth, yes. In the new earth, no.

The Corinthians not reigning at the time Paul wrote to them speaks of them at that time, not of all.

 

[verzanumi24]

In this old earth, yes. In the new earth, no.

The Corinthians not reigning at the time Paul wrote to them speaks of them at that time, not of all.

You have the idea that the fault is place and not the people. There is no scriptures that say that the world will still be corrupt when the saints are ruling. Like I showed you, neither Paul or the Church never shared your belief....so you are wrong. The scripture is what I go by not someone's opinion who make stuff up.....that's how people end up being deceived.


The scripture is for one's learning, teaching and correcting.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 (ASV)
16 Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness.
17 That the man of God may be complete, furnished completely unto every good work.


When your belief is not in line with the scripture the right thing to do is to change your belief in accordance to the scriptures.


The Bible clearly tells me when the saints will be ruling and it's when Jesus returns. And when the saints are ruling it will be the same Earth.....there is much you need to learn, because you really don't know what you are talking about.

 

[twinc]

Yes that it is, but it is base on sound reasoning, if the Lord did not create the earth in vain, but created it to be inhabited, why then did he create the myriads of other worlds?

gravity etc - twinc

 

[verzanumi24]

I never said God created any life on any other planet, where did you get that from?

Weren't you trying to prove that because God created the Earth to be inhabited, so you used that to say that other planets have life on those planets as well?

This is what you said, "Yes that it is, but it is base on sound reasoning, if the Lord did not create the earth in vain, but created it to be inhabited, why then did he create the myriads of other worlds?"

Why did you use the word Worlds? The word world indicates intelligent life.

A definition of the word world: the earth, together with all of its countries, peoples, and natural features.

 

[twinc]

Yes that it is, but it is base on sound reasoning, if the Lord did not create the earth in vain, but created it to be inhabited, why then did he create the myriads of other worlds?

Gravity etc imho - twinc

 

[bbyrd009]

Provide scripture to support your claims, not your desires and dreams.

ok so he has to do that, but you don't right

i rly mean no offense, but are you hearing yourself?

 

[Harvest 1874]

Weren't you trying to prove that because God created the Earth to be inhabited, so you used that to say that other planets have life on those planets as well?

No that is still not what I said, I didn't say anything about there already being life on others planets, nor did I imply it.

 

[verzanumi24]

No that is still not what I said, I didn't say anything about there already being life on others planets, nor did I imply it.

When you use the word world in regards to lifeless plants, it can give a misleading impression. But that's ok; no harm was done or intended.

 

[verzanumi24]

gravity etc - twinc

Who created gravity?

 

[twinc]

Who created gravity?

that which or who created everything else - twinc