Earth, Created to stand forever

[Truth7t7]

I don't believe I am incorrect the Apostles and all those of the Heavenly calling who have died faithful to Jesus since he went back into heaven have been resurrected because I believe we are now in the second presence of Jesus.

Please explain your

"Second Presence Of Jesus"?

 

[verzanumi24]

Can a person say the same about you or are they wrong to say that, I know you don't believe yourself to be infallible right

Only if the person believe that I made up the scriptures that I posted.

 

[verzanumi24]

Ok, until ya come up with another explanation, we will live with God's Word's Presented Below. In Love

When Jesus Christ Return's, It's Final Judgment By Fire, No Mortal Human Survives.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Nahum 1:5KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Matthew 13:40KJV
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

That's why I said I would rather provide the scriptures rather than just tell you, but that would take time.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Please explain your

"Second Presence Of Jesus"?

We are not to look for Christ to be visible to human eyes when he comes again but we should not even think of his leaving heaven and coming within the confines of earth’s atmosphere for him to be present. He returns or “visits” the earth as did Jehovah in times past, by turning his attention to things of earth. Thus Jehovah did not literally come down or “visit” (King James Version) the Israelites while they were in Egypt or at the time of the birth of John the Baptist; rather, he “turned his attention” to them. Likewise, when he began to call out a people from the nations for his name he did not literally “visit” but “turned his attention to the nations.” (Ex 4:31; Luke 1:68; Acts 15: 14, NW) See also An American Translation

The Scriptures indicate three features to follow Christ’s second coming and use three Greek words to refer to them: his parousia, or presence; his epiphaneia, or “manifestation”; and his apokalypsis, or “revelation.” Many Scriptures speak of the act of Christ’s second “coming” (eʹlevsis), such as Acts 7:52; but the Christian Greek Scriptures speak also many times of his second presence (par·ou·sía), his being invisibly here, not his being on the way.

In answer to his apostles’ question as to the sign of his second parousia or presence Jesus did not tell them to look in the sky but gave them a composite sign by which they could tell he was present. All the physical facts indicate that this sign has been seen since 1914. Has it not been since that year that we have seen warfare, earthquakes, pestilences, and famine to an unprecedented extent? And have we not since then seen persecution of Christians in all nations and the preaching of the good news of God’s kingdom in all the inhabited earth?—Matt.24; Mark 13; Luke 21.

Additionally, Bible chronology, based on Daniel’s prophecy regarding the “seven times,” when viewed in the light of God’s measuring rule of a “day for a year,” corroborates 1914 as the time for the coming of him “whose right it is,” namely, Christ Jesus.—Dan. 4:1-37; Ezek. 4:6; 21:27.

Having noted how Christ comes, as an invisible spirit and by his turning his attention to the affairs of earth, and that his presence began in 1914, by what actions has he shown that he has turned his attention to the affairs of the earth? Revelation 11:15-18 and Re 12:1-12 show that Jehovah began to rule by means of his Son, Christ Jesus, when the nations became angry, namely, in 1914, and that thereafter followed a war in heaven resulting in Satan and his demons’ being cast out. From the time Jesus ascended into heaven, he patiently waited until 1914 to begin ruling thus in the midst of his enemies.—Ps. 110:1-6; Heb. 10:13.

Having cleared his enemies out of heaven Christ next turned his attention to his followers on earth, both those sleeping in death and those living, to proceed with his epiphaneia, or “manifestation.” The physical facts indicate that just as Christ came to the Jewish temple three and a half years after he came as the Messiah, so in 1918, three and a half years after his presence began, he came to his spiritual temple for judging and rewarding. That meant a resurrection and the giving of the “crown of righteousness” to Paul and “all those who have loved his manifestation,” and who was asleep in death, and it meant Jehovah’s favor and increased privileges of Kingdom service for those Christians still living and who had been found faithful.—2 Tim. 4:8, NW.

Since then Christ has been supervising a work of dividing the “sheep” from the “goats” even as he foretold, a work of educating the sheeplike ones so that they can seek Jehovah, righteousness, and meekness and thus be hidden in the day of his anger. This feature of Christ’s presence is really a time of favor for his followers on earth and will continue until the time for his apokalypsis, or his revealing, the “revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings due punishment upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.” Other scriptures refer to this “revelation” as Armageddon, “the war of the great day of God the Almighty.”—2 Thess. 1:7, 8; Rev. 16:14, 16, NW.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Only if the person believe that I made up the scriptures that I posted.

I don't believe that you made up any scriptures, I just don't agree with your interpretation of them.

 

[Truth7t7]

We are not to look for Christ to be visible to human eyes when he comes again but we should not even think of his leaving heaven and coming within the confines of earth’s atmosphere for him to be present. He returns or “visits” the earth as did Jehovah in times past, by turning his attention to things of earth. Thus Jehovah did not literally come down or “visit” (King James Version) the Israelites while they were in Egypt or at the time of the birth of John the Baptist; rather, he “turned his attention” to them. Likewise, when he began to call out a people from the nations for his name he did not literally “visit” but “turned his attention to the nations.” (Ex 4:31; Luke 1:68; Acts 15: 14, NW) See also An American Translation

The Scriptures indicate three features to follow Christ’s second coming and use three Greek words to refer to them: his parousia, or presence; his epiphaneia, or “manifestation”; and his apokalypsis, or “revelation.” Many Scriptures speak of the act of Christ’s second “coming” (eʹlevsis), such as Acts 7:52; but the Christian Greek Scriptures speak also many times of his second presence (par·ou·sía), his being invisibly here, not his being on the way.

In answer to his apostles’ question as to the sign of his second parousia or presence Jesus did not tell them to look in the sky but gave them a composite sign by which they could tell he was present. All the physical facts indicate that this sign has been seen since 1914. Has it not been since that year that we have seen warfare, earthquakes, pestilences, and famine to an unprecedented extent? And have we not since then seen persecution of Christians in all nations and the preaching of the good news of God’s kingdom in all the inhabited earth?—Matt.24; Mark 13; Luke 21.

Additionally, Bible chronology, based on Daniel’s prophecy regarding the “seven times,” when viewed in the light of God’s measuring rule of a “day for a year,” corroborates 1914 as the time for the coming of him “whose right it is,” namely, Christ Jesus.—Dan. 4:1-37; Ezek. 4:6; 21:27.

Having noted how Christ comes, as an invisible spirit and by his turning his attention to the affairs of earth, and that his presence began in 1914, by what actions has he shown that he has turned his attention to the affairs of the earth? Revelation 11:15-18 and Re 12:1-12 show that Jehovah began to rule by means of his Son, Christ Jesus, when the nations became angry, namely, in 1914, and that thereafter followed a war in heaven resulting in Satan and his demons’ being cast out. From the time Jesus ascended into heaven, he patiently waited until 1914 to begin ruling thus in the midst of his enemies.—Ps. 110:1-6; Heb. 10:13.

Having cleared his enemies out of heaven Christ next turned his attention to his followers on earth, both those sleeping in death and those living, to proceed with his epiphaneia, or “manifestation.” The physical facts indicate that just as Christ came to the Jewish temple three and a half years after he came as the Messiah, so in 1918, three and a half years after his presence began, he came to his spiritual temple for judging and rewarding. That meant a resurrection and the giving of the “crown of righteousness” to Paul and “all those who have loved his manifestation,” and who was asleep in death, and it meant Jehovah’s favor and increased privileges of Kingdom service for those Christians still living and who had been found faithful.—2 Tim. 4:8, NW.

Since then Christ has been supervising a work of dividing the “sheep” from the “goats” even as he foretold, a work of educating the sheeplike ones so that they can seek Jehovah, righteousness, and meekness and thus be hidden in the day of his anger. This feature of Christ’s presence is really a time of favor for his followers on earth and will continue until the time for his apokalypsis, or his revealing, the “revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings due punishment upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.” Other scriptures refer to this “revelation” as Armageddon, “the war of the great day of God the Almighty.”—2 Thess. 1:7, 8; Rev. 16:14, 16, NW.

Do you believe Jesus Christ Is God?

John 1:1-3KJV
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Do you believe Jesus Christ Is God?

John 1:1-3KJV
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Before I was a Jehovahs witness I met with Baptist meetings and Pentecostal meetings and never at any time did any of them explain the Trinity to me, although I knew they believed in the Trinity. It was when I first met a Jehovah's witness that they explain the Trinity when I heard that definition I went to the Christian bookstore and got me some good Christian encyclopedias(not Jehovah witness literature) and some good Christian dictionaries and looked up the Trinity in those books and basically what the Jehovah witnesses told me concerning that definition of the Trinity was in those books. The problem with me concerning that definition, which is saying Jesus is God is that I have never believed that. I have always believed Jesus to be the only begotten Son of God, I believe Jesus to be the Word, yes and I believe it was the word that became flesh yes but when someone tell me Jesus is the God of creation instead of the only begotten Son of God they and I are going to disagree. People are always telling me I have to believe it was God who became flesh that it was God who died for me and God who was resurrected three days after his death, which means they are telling me I have to deny that it was the only begotten Son of God(who is the word) that became flesh and came to this world, that I have to deny that it was the only begotten son of God who died for me, that I have to deny that it was the only begotten Son of God who was resurrected by God three days after his death. I'm not going to deny Jesus is the only begotten Son of God no matter how much people persecute me, they can say whatever they want. People said Jesus was a demon so I don't expect people to say lovely things about me. I'm not necessarily saying you will say bad things about me but I do believe some will.

When it comes to John 1:1-3 not all Bibles translate this scripture the same, and this has not been happening just in our time, way back during 600 C.E. there was a manuscript containing a translation of the Gospel of John into the Sahidic dialect of the Coptic language. Coptic was spoken in Egypt in the centuries immediately following Jesus’ earthly ministry. Along with Syriac and Latin, Coptic was one of the first languages into which the Christian Greek Scriptures were translated. Translations into Coptic were available by the third century C.E., so they can give us insight into how the Greek text was understood at that time. This may be of special interest when it comes to the much-debated second part of Joh 1:1, which in many translations reads: “And the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Unlike Koine Greek, Syriac, and Latin, the Sahidic Coptic dialect does have an indefinite article (in some ways corresponding to “a” and “an” in English). Thus, when rendered literally into English, the translation would read: “And the Word was with the God, and the Word was a god. So this scripture has been debated on for centuries how it should be translated.

 

[Truth7t7]

Before I was a Jehovahs witness I met with Baptist meetings and Pentecostal meetings and never at any time did any of them explain the Trinity to me, although I knew they believed in the Trinity. It was when I first met a Jehovah's witness that they explain the Trinity when I heard that definition I went to the Christian bookstore and got me some good Christian encyclopedias(not Jehovah witness literature) and some good Christian dictionaries and looked up the Trinity in those books and basically what the Jehovah witnesses told me concerning that definition of the Trinity was in those books. The problem with me concerning that definition, which is saying Jesus is God is that I have never believed that. I have always believed Jesus to be the only begotten Son of God, I believe Jesus to be the Word, yes and I believe it was the word that became flesh yes but when someone tell me Jesus is the God of creation instead of the only begotten Son of God they and I are going to disagree. People are always telling me I have to believe it was God who became flesh that it was God who died for me and God who was resurrected three days after his death, which means they are telling me I have to deny that it was the only begotten Son of God(who is the word) that became flesh and came to this world, that I have to deny that it was the only begotten son of God who died for me, that I have to deny that it was the only begotten Son of God who was resurrected by God three days after his death. I'm not going to deny Jesus is the only begotten Son of God no matter how much people persecute me, they can say whatever they want. People said Jesus was a demon so I don't expect people to say lovely things about me. I'm not necessarily saying you will say bad things about me but I do believe some will.

When it comes to John 1:1-3 not all Bibles translate this scripture the same, and this has not been happening just in our time, way back during 600 C.E. a manuscript containing a translation of the Gospel of John into the Sahidic dialect of the Coptic language. Coptic was spoken in Egypt in the centuries immediately following Jesus’ earthly ministry. Along with Syriac and Latin, Coptic was one of the first languages into which the Christian Greek Scriptures were translated. Translations into Coptic were available by the third century C.E., so they can give us insight into how the Greek text was understood at that time. This may be of special interest when it comes to the much-debated second part of Joh 1:1, which in many translations reads: “And the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Unlike Koine Greek, Syriac, and Latin, the Sahidic Coptic dialect does have an indefinite article (in some ways corresponding to “a” and “an” in English). Thus, when rendered literally into English, the translation would read: “And the Word was with the God, and the Word was a god. So this scripture has been debated on for centuries how it should be translated.

I Was Trying To Better Understand Your Doctrine And Belief, I Fully Understand Now.

You Have Identified Yourself As A "Jehovah's Witness"

Thanks For The Honesty, I'm Fully Aware With The Belief And Teaching Of The Watch Tower And Tract Society.

 

[ScottA]

Doesn't this verse say the disciples saw Jesus ascend? Didn't the angel said Jesus would return the same way He left?

Acts 1:9-11 (KJV)
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


Jesus never became spirit after He rose from the grave....He was still flesh and bones.

Luke 24:39 (KJV)
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

No...it does not say that, and you are leaving out the other scriptures that say that the flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven, You have the scriptures disagreeing with one another, just as you have us disagreeing, but only one thing is true.

The "like manner" was not in the flesh, but in "a cloud", meaning in the spirit, just as God was with Israel in the desert - which is all that He committed to the Father:

Luke 23:46
"And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ”

...Assuming that because Jesus was the image of God, the word become flesh, men have mistaken what is seen for what is unseen. But as He Himself said, "A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also." And this He said, because He does not come to the world, but said rather that "I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

These things must all be reconciled. This is the word which I have presented to you.

 

[verzanumi24]

No...it does not say that, and you are leaving out the other scriptures that say that the flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven, You have the scriptures disagreeing with one another, just as you have us disagreeing, but only one thing is true.

The "like manner" was not in the flesh, but in "a cloud", meaning in the spirit, just as God was with Israel in the desert - which is all that He committed to the Father:

Luke 23:46
"And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ”

...Assuming that because Jesus was the image of God, the word become flesh, men have mistaken what is seen for what is unseen. But as He Himself said, "A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also." And this He said, because He does not come to the world, but said rather that "I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

These things must all be reconciled. This is the word which I have presented to you.

The scripture that you are referring to say flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God....accuracy is important when quoting the scriptures.

1 Corinthians 15:50 (KJV)
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

But failed to notice that Jesus didn't say flesh and blood, He said flesh and bone.

Luke 24:39 (KJV)
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have

There's a difference between flesh and blood and flesh and bone. The flesh and bone Jesus has is not corruptible and it has no blood.

 

[verzanumi24]

I don't believe that you made up any scriptures, I just don't agree with your interpretation of them.

It was not an interpretation. The scripture clearly say the dead in Christ will rise first. If they were still alive they would have not been called dead in Christ.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

It was not an interpretation. The scripture clearly say the dead in Christ will rise first. If they were still alive they would have not been called dead in Christ.

yes the dead in Christ will rise first and that resurrection of the Heavenly calling those who will be Kings, Priests, and Judges with Jesus began in Jesus Christ second presence which we are in now, it started in 1914.

 

[verzanumi24]

yes the dead in Christ will rise first and that resurrection of the Heavenly calling those who will be Kings, Priests, and Judges with Jesus began in Jesus Christ second presence which we are in now, it started in 1914.

LOL You have been deceived.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

The scripture that you are referring to say flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God....accuracy is important when quoting the scriptures.

1 Corinthians 15:50 (KJV)
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

But failed to notice that Jesus didn't say flesh and blood, He said flesh and bone.

Luke 24:39 (KJV)
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have

There's a difference between flesh and blood and flesh and bone. The flesh and bone Jesus has is not corruptible and it has no blood.

as regards Jesus’ resurrection, Peter says that “in the spirit, he was brought to life.” This explains why on the resurrection morning when God’s angel rolled the stone from the door of the sepulcher the soldier guards did not see Jesus rise from the dead and come out, although they did see the materialized angel. (Matt. 28:1-4) This explains why, when the resurrected Jesus met two disciples walking that day to Emmaus and went along with them and started to take supper with them, they did not know him until he began to serve the bread; and then he disappeared.—Luke 24:13-35.

6 This explains why, when the apostles and other disciples were met together in Jerusalem behind closed doors for fear of the fanatical Jews, Jesus must have come right through the walls. For he amazingly stood right in among them, and, after eating and talking with them, he vanished from them, but not through any unbolted door. (Luke 24:36-44; John 20:19-24) Of course, for Jesus, who had been brought to life in the spirit, to make himself visible to his disciples, he had to materialize on each occasion a body of flesh and bones. Jesus himself then said: “A spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have.” Since the flesh-and-bones disciples could not see what was not flesh and bones, they could not see a spirit and they could not see the resurrected Jesus, who was “in the spirit.”—Luke 24:39.

On some occasions, the disciples did not know or recognize the resurrected Jesus. (Matt. 28:16, 17; Luke 24:15, 16; John 20:14-16; 21:4-12) The explanation for this is given in the words found in the Latin Vulgate, the Roman Catholic Douay Version, the German Luther Bible and the Authorized (King James) Version, in Mark 16:12. This verse in the Douay Version reads: “And after that, he appeared in another shape to two of them walking, as they were going into the country.” The Greek word here translated “shape” is morphé, which the Greek-English Lexicon says means “form, shape, fashion, appearance.” But even apart from what Mark 16:12 says, a careful study of the resurrection appearances makes it clear to the honest investigator, who does not need to be a Sherlock Holmes of a detective, that the resurrected Jesus materialized different bodies to suit the occasion. On at least two occasions he materialized bodies that resembled the one in which he had been nailed to the stake. (Luke 24:38-40; John 20:20-27) On other occasions, the form or shape that he materialized left the disciples in doubt for a while.

When we feel a person, as his disciples felt Jesus, we do not feel blood, but we feel the flesh and the bones, especially bones in the hands, the feet, and the chest. A fleshly body without bones would just collapse. So Jesus was resurrected as a spiritual being, which in its natural state is
invisible, so Jesus materialized different fleshly bodies so his disciples would be able to see him.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

LOL You have been deceived.

not deceived just have faith in the truth.

 

[bbyrd009]

should we call God The God of nature, it seems like when we say God is The God of nature we are making him a part of creation and we all know that's not true. God is the creator of nature, therefore knows how to sustain what he created for eternally

i think we force a definition of "eternally" there that was not intended, but regardless of that, what do you think Peter was saying then?

 

[Truth7t7]

The scripture that you are referring to say flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God....accuracy is important when quoting the scriptures.

1 Corinthians 15:50 (KJV)
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

But failed to notice that Jesus didn't say flesh and blood, He said flesh and bone.

Luke 24:39 (KJV)
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have

There's a difference between flesh and blood and flesh and bone. The flesh and bone Jesus has is not corruptible and it has no blood.

I agree 100%, as Jesus Christ Had Glorified Flesh And Bone, No Blood.

 

[Harvest 1874]

I believe those who are Jesus disciples or followers who understand that we are in the second presence of Jesus see that through their eyes of understanding, but the world(not God people) will not understand that until they are being destroyed.

That is basically what we were implying, nor were we in any way inferring that the church this side of the vail can physically see him either, their perception of his Greek: parousia (presence) is likewise through the eyes of their understanding, being enlightened through the scriptures. The nominally professing church looks to the sky for a visible return of our Lord, while we look to the more sure word of prophecy which points out the invisible return of our Lord.

 

[Truth7t7]

That is basically what we were implying, nor were we in any way inferring that the church this side of the vail can physically see him either, their perception of his Greek: parousia (presence) is likewise through the eyes of their understanding, being enlightened through the scriptures. The nominally professing church looks to the sky for a visible return of our Lord, while we look to the more sure word of prophecy which points out the invisible return of our Lord.

Jesus Christ Will Return Visibly, Human Eyes Will See His Return.

Revelation 1:7KJV
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

 

[Harvest 1874]

Jesus Christ Will Return Visibly, Human Eyes Will See His Return.

Revelation 1:7KJV
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Sorry but this text taken from Revelation is highly symbolic and it is evident that you are misinterpreting it.