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Mayflower

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That is what he said.
I have even heard more than that...that it is at the root of ALL disease. My naturopath told me ALL disease starts in the gut.

In the area of health and our welfare bbyrd009 has done his research and he knows a lot. ( If we ask him)

That is interesting. I know dairy can definitely effects mood
 

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Dairy, for adults, can affect almost EVERYTHING.
You left out "positively" after "EVERYTHING". Dairy products are some of the most beneficial and enjoyable foods, hence "the land of milk and honey" was given to Israel.
 
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You left out "positively" after "EVERYTHING". Dairy products are some of the most beneficial and enjoyable foods, hence "the land of milk and honey" was given to Israel.

Lol I do agree with this. It is my favorite food group. But I do notice it can effect my mood.
 

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You left out "positively" after "EVERYTHING". Dairy products are some of the most beneficial and enjoyable foods, hence "the land of milk and honey" was given to Israel.

Haha!! The Milk which WAS, and the "milk" which is are two different things.
Their milk did not have the antibiotics , pester-sides , growth hormones and all the chemicals that our does now.

Same as the "wheat"...what we call wheat is nothing at all the same as the real wheat which they have found in the tombs of Egypt...the real wheat the Joseph would have stocked in the Pharaohs warehouses ready to feed the known world in famine.

Google todays "wheat" and ancient wheat... it is amazing ....
 

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You left out "positively" after "EVERYTHING". Dairy products are some of the most beneficial and enjoyable foods, hence "the land of milk and honey" was given to Israel.
No, actually, it takes very little research to find that dairy products are not something any adult needs.

And this is coming from someone who LOVES ice cream, milk, and butter... And eats way too much of all of it.
 
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I dealt with clinical depression for 20 years.

There were probably some numb-skulls along the way that said "just pray harder" but such stupidity doesn't deserve me remembering them.

Having a very real and very vibrant relationship with Christ doesn't mean all ills will just disappear-- quite the contrary! The scriptures are full of examples of Christ's followers having very real struggles and Christ not removing that particular thorn in the flesh. We're supposed to each have weaknesses to remind us to be humble and come unto Christ so He can make us stronger in His way (not the way we ask).
Indeed! And every time He pulls me out of my own mire, I am more on fire for Him and instead of tears of sadness, the tears turn into joy abundant! He is our answer to all ills...Glory to HIM!
 

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well this does not describe the mechanism for getting attention anyway--particularly for a codependent who enjoys making themselves apparent by their absence, sometimes (bc the pointed comments by their friends get to be too hard to ignore or whatever; usually some new peer who sees through the charade and is not afraid to name it is in the ascendancy or something like that)--even if it seems to, and fwiw i would suggest doing the exact opposite, maybe even playing "fake it til you make it," but isolating, what you are describing, does not equate to "not seeking attention" like it might seem to, and one can even examine their desire to have someone knock on the door or call in that state for their specific truth in the matter i guess.

Isolating is usually an attempt at getting attention too iow; the weird part is, when the phone rings and one doesn't pick it up, it is bc they maybe want more attention, or a better way to say that might be "more focus on themselves" by others, "attention" generally being the last thing ppl in this certain, (possessed) state want i guess.

Iow it is a control move that codependents use, at least quite often
I'm sorry I do not fit your criteria Mark. This gal does NOT like attention, especially if going on 3 days no bathing, brushing of teeth or changing clothes...and since my friends (true, close) know me well, it is not unusual for me to "hermit" for a bit and they do not push me, they pray with me....and God always DOES pull me out and, in general, I am a very joyful, always smiling and (IMO) have a great sense of humor kind of person. So, it is what it is. :D :D
 

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No, actually, it takes very little research to find that dairy products are not something any adult needs.

And this is coming from someone who LOVES ice cream, milk, and butter... And eats way too much of all of it.

I know. It is sort of depressing. :D
 
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well, it wasn't my discovery or anything, but yes. Although in the 1st world i guess Codependency is a big culprit too. i had both in spades myself

I wouldn't say I am codependent, but my friend recently told me about this, she struggles with it. I want to talk to my doctor, because on the self test I am all of them. Executive function disorder...it may explain why I am diligent and make so many goals, but have the hardest time with it. These areas cause a lot of anxiety and depression

https://nhahealth.com/take-the-executive-function-self-test/

https://www.beyondbooksmart.com/executive-function-coaching-for-adults
 
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For specifically i would have to do an assay, have to know a lot more iow, and i hear "i'm sorry i don't fit the criteria" like every day, twice before lunch lol. I mean no offense, but you were dissing the criteria as bogus 4 hours ago, yet now here you are assuring me that you don't fit it. This is why i made the comment earlier about i wouldn't pay too much attention to your testimony on the matter or whatever i said, bc ppl naturally protect their egos first. Store-bought yogurt is garbage btw, may as well drink soda i guess
 

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on the self test I am all of them
so is virtually anyone in the developed world i guess, particularly the chronically depressed. I'm trying to recall if any of the exceptions in my experience--those in denial iow--were in fact not Candida infected and codependent, both...and for full disclosure the best i can say for them is that they, some of them, are quite good at hiding information, the deniers, so while it is barely possible, the occluding of info itself makes it pretty unlikely i think
 
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Good night...dairy products causing depression? Give me a break. Depression is caused by life and ones recognition that it isn't good. It is a spiritual thing. Every thing always changing. People you knew dying. You moving forward to die yourself. Your understanding that things are wrong that are done, yet there is nothing you can do to change any of it.

I have always said, if your depressed, your thinking is right. It is those who act like they are on top of the world, and everything is going great are lying to themselves. Jesus was called a 'man of sorrows'. He was no 'good time charly'.

The believer in Christ knows what he can do and what he can't. And to those things he can't, he leaves to God. It is God's problem. Should you be depressed about it?....of course. But because you know God is in control of it, there is no need to be depressed. If you don't believe God is in control of it,...that is depression.

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Good night...dairy products causing depression? Give me a break. Depression is caused by life and ones recognition that it isn't good. It is a spiritual thing. Every thing always changing. People you knew dying. You moving forward to die yourself. Your understanding that things are wrong that are done, yet there is nothing you can do to change any of it.

I have always said, if your depressed, your thinking is right. It is those who act like they are on top of the world, and everything is going great are lying to themselves. Jesus was called a 'man of sorrows'. He was no 'good time charly'.

The believer in Christ knows what he can do and what he can't. And to those things he can't, he leaves to God. It is God's problem. Should you be depressed about it?....of course. But because you know God is in control of it, there is no need to be depressed. If you don't believe God is in control of it,...that is depression.

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My goodness, you CAN think. Maybe not too accurately in this situation, but there seems to be hope yet.
 
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