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Enoch111

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Speechless. A twist of words, changing the meaning!
And to whom is that addressed, Miss Hepburn? To the saints or to the sinners? It would appear that you would be twisting the meaning to confuse sinners with saints. Never a good thing.

Every believer was an enemy and alien to God and His family UNTIL he or she repented and was converted. And that is what we find in Colossians.

Consider Saul of Tarsus vs Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles. He was not a brother until he was converted, and even Ananias was fearful of him until Christ assured him that he had repented and was saved.
 

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And to whom is that addressed, Miss Hepburn? To the saints or to the sinners? It would appear that you would be twisting the meaning to confuse sinners with saints. Never a good thing.

Every believer was an enemy and alien to God and His family UNTIL he or she repented and was converted. And that is what we find in Colossians.

Consider Saul of Tarsus vs Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles. He was not a brother until he was converted, and even Ananias was fearful of him until Christ assured him that he had repented and was saved.
How can anyone twist words when they come directly as written...using diff versions to show I was not picking something that was 'to my liking'.
Place anything you'd like in bold...I read it all the same.
Can you find the verse in Colossians for us?
 

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I'm no scholar and it makes no diff to me if God thought of a day as a little 24 hr
period or 1000 yrs as said in the NT.
The only reason I care is I have stumped atheists into silence when they use this
6 day thing as ludicrous,
when I say, 'but a day to God is 1000yrs.' :) I mean they have nothing to say , because no one has ever said that back to them....fun to watch.

But here are some things from real scholars ...
  • Augustine, writing in the early fifth century, noted, ”What kind of days these were it is extremely difficult, or perhaps impossible, to determine” (City of God 11.7).
  • J. Gresham Machen (1881-1937), author of the 20th century’s best critique of theological liberalism, wrote, “It is certainly not necessary to think that the six days spoken of in that first chapter of the Bible are intended to be six days of twenty four hours each.”
  • Old Testament scholar Edward J. Young (1907-1968), an eloquent defender of inerrancy, said that regarding the length of the creation days, “That is a question which is difficult to answer. Indications are not lacking that they may have been longer than the days we now know, but the Scripture itself does not speak as clearly as one might like.”
-Theologian Carl F. H. Henry (1913-2003), one of the most important theologians in the second half of the twentieth century and a defender of Scriptural clarity and authority, argued that “Faith in an inerrant Bible does not rest on the recency or antiquity of the earth. . . . The Bible does not require belief in six literal 24-hour creation days on the basis of Genesis 1-2. . . . it is gratuitous to insist that twenty-four hour days are involved or intended.”

-Old Testament scholar and Hebrew linguist Gleason Archer (1916-2004), a strong advocate for inerrancy, wrote ”On the basis of internal evidence, it is this writer’s conviction that yôm in Genesis could not have been intended by the Hebrew author to mean a literal twenty-four hour day.”
 

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A more relevent question is why should God perform miracles for us?
Why is it relevant?

The son of a friend of mine went to a Bill Johnson meeting where he called people to the front for prayer. He stood next to another teenager who only had one hand. Whilst people were being prayed for he watched the young man grow another hand.
 

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Amen to that...wish we hear more "today" testimonies .
Praise God.
 
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I was turned onto Bill Johnson years ago...ah, wow.
John G. Lake, Smith Wigglesworth...big inspirations to me.

Why 'should' God perform miracles? Cuz He is our Father and we
call upon Him....that's all....
would my dad come to the side of the road with
a tow truck for me at 4 am? Of course!
Might even bring me a coffee!
We are made in his image ...and He is a loving Dad with a big heart...
He's like us, but without the pride and all that stuff.
 
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Trusting our Father will take care of his own as a good father does his children. As the scripture says "healing is the children's bread."
The body is fragile and needs repair at time's, a miracle, a doctor, a pill and so forth, it doesn't matter healing is of the father. "My grace is sufficient" it doesn't
matter the situation.
 

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Where have I questioned God?

Here:

"Interesting but it does not begin to explain why God has done miracles in the past or why he should do them now."

Seeing as the miraculous of God is happening, who can explain that but God? So you are questioning God.
 

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I'm no scholar and it makes no diff to me if God thought of a day as a little 24 hr
period or 1000 yrs as said in the NT.
or there is how it is discribed in the ten commandments.
In six days God created the world and he rested on the seventh.

Either God used 6 periods of 24 hours or he used 6 periods of thousands or millions of years.
The question you have to find an answer to is. How do we rest for a thousand years without working.
 
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Here:

"Interesting but it does not begin to explain why God has done miracles in the past or why he should do them now."

Seeing as the miraculous of God is happening, who can explain that but God? So you are questioning God.

The question was asked of those who claim miracles happen today.
Aking someone to explain there theology is not a challenge to God or a questioning of God.
 
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Why is it relevant?

The son of a friend of mine went to a Bill Johnson meeting where he called people to the front for prayer. He stood next to another teenager who only had one hand. Whilst people were being prayed for he watched the young man grow another hand.

I have no information on this event, so can only praise God that he was gracious to this young man.
The question remains. Why should God perform miracles for us?
 

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I was turned onto Bill Johnson years ago...ah, wow.
John G. Lake, Smith Wigglesworth...big inspirations to me.

Why 'should' God perform miracles? Cuz He is our Father and we
call upon Him....that's all....
would my dad come to the side of the road with
a tow truck for me at 4 am? Of course!
Might even bring me a coffee!
We are made in his image ...and He is a loving Dad with a big heart...
He's like us, but without the pride and all that stuff.

I certainly resonant with the coffee bit, especially if it is a cappuccino.
 
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Everything God does is easy. Nothing is hard. He can move in an instant or over years. Whatever suits His purpose. Everything is a "light" task.

2 Kings 3:18 KJVS
And this is but a light thing in the sight of the Lord : he will deliver the Moabites also into your hand.

He doesn't even need both hands. We call them miracles but it's just SOP for the Lord. Every single thing He does we must classify as a miracle because He's the only one that can do whatever it is.

Everything He does for me and mine is a miracle because they're all things we can't do. It might be healing, a new job, favor in some situation or telling me how to design a part on a machine. All things we need help with.

Years ago I had to file bankruptcy when the economy went south and my business with it. As a consequence we lost our LP gas tank that provided all of our heating and cooking fuel.

A Christian friend was talking to a man that had an LP gas tank at his lake cabin that wasn't being used. He said we could have it. I hauled it home on a trailer and I knew that it was full of LP gas.

The man had placed that tank at his cabin in 1961 and had it filled. The Lord had that tank set and filled for me and my family while I was still in high school and gave it to me twenty five years later! That should qualify as a miracle eh? Hallelujah!
 

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Either God used 6 periods of 24 hours or he used 6 periods of thousands or millions of years.
The question you have to find an answer to is.
How do we rest for a thousand years without working.
Hey! That was a good one!
You have a very astute mind!!! *thumbsup*
No atheist has posed that to me when they
have mocked the 6 day period being preposterous...and I toss in,
'But a day is a 1000 years to God.'
Then, I would have been the one stomped and speechless!!!!
I personally think God could have done it in 6 minutes!

added: Windmill....did my view on why God performs 'miracles' not answer anything for you?
Are you looking for a particular answer? Like, 'He does until we learn our own power in us to simply manifest 'the seemingly impossible' ourselves?' ;)
 
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