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djstav

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Well bb, as you see by where I live, I don't really have a "church" here.
But, as you know, I do know some priests and all my friends are Catholic and if I DO go to church it's a Catholic one. Nothing wrong with it the way things are now.

I do agree with everything you've stated.
Here's the important question...
We're in for a schism...
Who remains?
The pope and magesterum and HIS followers,
or the "true" catholics?

I say the true catholics will have to move out.
Move out where?
 

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I think that's a pretty arrogant statement, to suppose the mind of the creator.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Although I can and do claim it, this not my own original statement, but rather a biblical fact: "We have the mind of Christ."

If you are not aware of this fact and reality, or how it works, perhaps we can discuss it. Nonetheless, it is a fact.
 
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They do not inflict pain on themselves in hell, but rather inflicted pain throughout their whole life making them who they are. Just as God is eternally "I am", they too are eternally "I am whatever their life has made them." Life in the world is their "hour of decision." They do it to themselves.
If you're saying that our life here continues to the other side, I agree.
As to hell, which I don't really like to discuss, I don't know for sure what it's like except for some few things Jesus said, but I think the evil spirits there are causing the torment to persons... not other persons. This is what I was referring to in my question. Sounds like you agree.
 
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The only problem I am having with this "phenomena" is that there is zero scripture that I can find pertaining to it.
There's nothing there.
But if a man could be raised from the dead and people healed and speaking in tongues...wouldn't that make anything possible?
I wonder if this has happened to anyone now?
Padre Pio died in the 60's I believe...
Wonder if this phenomenon is existing right now.
What about exorcisms? But that's biblical...
Yes. This has always baffled me too.
 
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Sorry for the misunderstanding. Although I can and do claim it, this not my own original statement, but rather a biblical fact: "We have the mind of Christ."

If you are not aware of this fact and reality, or how it works, perhaps we can discuss it. Nonetheless, it is a fact.
That is interesting how you brought up

1 Corinthians 2:13-16 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16for, "Who has known the mind of the LORD so as to instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

Ask a mentally ill person how they can have such a mind while mentally ill.
 

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What's the message? That it's better to have a friend than an enemy?
There's some truth to the story I'm sure...but that wolves talk? No. You tell that story to kids today and they also won't believe anything else you tell them about Jesus and our faith. No need to embellish.

I agree about the Pope. But he's still so loved by everyone here...well not everyone (never say every),,,MOST persons here are in love with him. That Piazza down in Rome, Piazza San Pietro, is always filled to the brim. When bus tours take off from here they're always full. This was not true with Benedict.

I also agree fully with your last paragraph.
I would say that the story would not of been understood by myself when I was a child as well but only due to having the Holy Spirit.
It's been many years ago that I read that story, but the wolf does not have to speak in human words, but dogs do speak in there actions and make noises one can understand.
I went to a mates place that lives with his mum and dad, I only see him once a year like as it's a 4 hour drive, now they have a new dog and my mates mum came and said the dog was trying to tell her that some one was hear, not barking but making like worried perplexed noises, it's a true bread blue dog and they are real smart as are a Wolf they are a real smart dog.
When St Frances went and did this no one back in the day would of believed it, they thought that he would of been killed for sure, but Frances having a great understanding of humans and we are an animal as well, so it does not go beyond the bounds to understand other animals and it is this that why it got him the patron of such, but sadly this undermines him for what he truly was.

When one hunts down an animal, one has to know the nature of that animal, some years ago one could see with the Australian Aboriginals that they once taught the little ones how too in there dancing, but to 99% of white people they can not understand or have half a clue what the abos were truly doing, not to mention it's the same with what is now known as or claimed or making a claim as Abos nowadays because they are just like the white people are just to stupid to understand because they know nothing, as they do not live in that type of world to be able to fend for themselves and them true old generation Abos know full well not to even bother with 99% of white people, and they just have to dismiss them because there is no point talking such to them because of there ignorance and they did not show all of such to whites because of the whites total ignorance.


Pope Benedict is one of the greatest Catholics ever but the people have changed because the rot had set in within the RCC and all the others, Pope Ben was powerless to stop this as he has said and so did Pope JP2, the people and the priesthood did not listen to them, because many of the priest and people were shallow Christians, they love the worldly works more than Jesus Christ, only whips became Priest and would not stand up for Jesus Christ.
There was a undermining with in the church due to the Jesuits mainly who are just like the Freemasons and Jews who look to their own gods, so with all there influence on all denominations the rot set in, so now we have crap like people in the church claiming that the Jews are our salvation and the morons are swallowing it all and the fact is it is totally Satanic.
 

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I think you do if you require other people to believe the same thing as you.

Well you think wrong. Christianity and our faith is not based on what you think. And I don't require people to believe as me. I present the Gospel, if you don't believe it, so be it.

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I sure don't, and I'm fine not thinking I know what's after death. Keeps me from closing my mind to learning more.

Indeed you don't. And I am fine knowing what comes after death. Keeps me learning those things that are eternal and have eternal consequences.

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Well you think wrong. Christianity and our faith is not based on what you think. And I don't require people to believe as me. I present the Gospel, if you don't believe it, so be it.

Stranger
But you do, it's a commandment from Jesus to preach the Gospel.

Also it's a commandment from Jesus to answer all questions by the hope (Faith) you do have.
 

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But you do, it's a commandment from Jesus to preach the Gospel.

Also it's a commandment from Jesus to answer all questions by the hope (Faith) you do have.

It is a commandment from Jesus to preach the Gospel, not to make you believe it. If you don't believe it, so be it. I do answer all questions. You just don't like the answers.

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