Well...yes, we ARE talking about rest in Him, which IS the true Sabbath rest in spirit and truth.
Amen.
Some either have eyes to see it...or , obviously, some do not...
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Well...yes, we ARE talking about rest in Him, which IS the true Sabbath rest in spirit and truth.
Everyone has an "opinion"....There is only one TRUTH: Baptism saves you (1 Pet. 3:21). Nothing there about a public confession which does not support your opinion."Nowhere in scripture does it say that water baptism is a "public confession of your newfound faith in Jesus". If I have overlooked it please quote it for me. "
What I actually said was "And as for water baptism, I liken that to a public confession of your newfound faith in Jesus Christ and the water is symbolic of washing away the "old man" of sin, and rising from the water a "new man". So, in other words "IMO".
"The "public confession" belief began AFTER the reformation. It is a recent teaching of men."
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:9
Doesn't seem too recent to me. And gee, what happens if someone dies within 20 minutes after accepting Jesus and repenting of their sins, and they never made it to water baptism? What about the thief on the cross? My belief is that baptism is not prerequisite to being saved or forgiven of one’s sins, and it is possible for persons who have not been baptized to be saved.
"Since you want to throw out the part of scripture that says that getting baptized is a remission of you sins does that mean you are also throwing out that you will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost???"
I have not "thrown out" any scripture. We receive the Holy Spirit through Jesus, period. And, if you are looking for a nasty back and forth here, you got the wrong gal. I will not stoop to that. I am just as entitled as you to believe how I believe. When and if God teaches me differently, my heart wide open to HIS teaching, not mans.
Good day.
If this is the *one truth*, then that repentant thief on the cross did not stand a chance, and neither did any OT saint.There is only one TRUTH: Baptism saves you...
Context: the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect.If this is the *one truth*, then that repentant thief on the cross did not stand a chance, and neither did any OT saint.
Yes Helen, agreed but, you and I never say it is absolute truth if we are stating an opinion. ♥What you say is an opinion too @Marymog ...."everyone" declares that how "they" interpret scripture is "the truth" .... and they all really genuinely believe it...
Yes Helen, agreed but, you and I never say it is absolute truth if we are stating an opinion. ♥
It would be nice to know how H2O can wash away sins.If you need help, let me know.
On its own, it doesn't. But mixed with the following...It would be nice to know how H2O can wash away sins.
Amen.
Some either have eyes to see it...or , obviously, some do not...
Yes it does seem to be the way. I guess that "ignore button" is there for a reason, only used it once, so it would have to be pretty bad for me to do that. I say the Holy Spirit deals with each of us in different ways and reveals to us what WE need to know at any given time. Amen!Very true Nancy.
I must say it does irritate me when people say..."Yes, this is the truth because the bible says so. " They can never see that it is still how THEY interpret the verse....
To me it is just arrogance.
I like posting to people who are willing to say " As I see it"...or "This is what I believe"...or IMHO...
But arrogance with scriptures when they say- " there is no other interpretation...I am right."
Then I don't want to discuss with them it is a waste of time.
And, as you know, neither do I like- " give me bible proof"...
Oh well, it seems to be the way on forums
If you agree with them, then it must be truth. If you disagree with them, then it's their interpretation.I must say it does irritate me when people say..."Yes, this is the truth because the bible says so. " They can never see that it is still how THEY interpret the verse...
No, I think Helen, Nancy and I are alike in that. We don't claim we have the only truth... but that we have the part of the truth God intends for us to have at this particular time.If you agree with them, then it must be truth. If you disagree with them, then it's their interpretation.
...or at least insufficient."what is currently true may shortly be false"
what if the truth is that you cannot know the truth? At least not well enough to chisel it in stone for application to every eventuality?Jesus said..you will know the truth
ah well i would have put that diff wadr, but you might be speaking from a diff tense and i'm just misinterpreting too, dunnoKnowing the truth allows you to see things according to the Spirit.
what if the truth is that you cannot know the truth? At least not well enough to chisel it in stone for application to every eventuality?
But even in the moment we generally recognize that there is more than one way to skin a cat right