Jack Van Impe and Hal Lindsey=World's Best Bible Prophecy Teachers!!

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Vexatious

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I've been hearing that for at least 30 years. All the pieces are ready - they just have to put them together. Take a couple of days. Where are they going to kill the animals? Who will kill the animals? They have no priesthood.

The Temple Institute is a con. It's a small museum to make money off of mentally-challenged-Christian-Zionists-working-for-the-Devil who visit to Israel. The Israeli government is making no effort to move toward building a temple. Most Jews have no interest in building a temple. Those Jews who want to build a temple only want it for ethnic pride, not any religious reason. Orthodox Jews activity oppose the building of a temple. Not only do they not have a priesthood, their Talmudic religion doesn't have a priesthood. Christianity, of course, has no room for a third temple and can never recognize a third temple as anything other than a satanic shrine.
 
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The Mark Of The Beast Found In Revelation 13 Is Further Proof For A Pretribulation Rapture Of The Church

The taking of the Mark of the Beast is yet more proof that Christians will not be exposed to it. Since the Bible clearly declares in Revelation that God will not forgive anyone who takes it, and Paul clearly declares in dozens and dozens of passages that Christians have eternal security, we know that the rapture of the Church must take place before the time of Jacob's trouble where Antichrist will force his mark on humanity.

One of the most amazing things about be born again in the Church Age is that God has given us eternal security by faith in Jesus Christ. When we accepted His payment on the cross as the payment for our sin personally, and put our trust and faith in His death, burial and resurrection, God forgave all of our sins past, present and future. Certainly, we could sin after salvation and temporarily break our fellowship with the Lord, but never for a single second would our salvation be in jeopardy. The apostle John gives us the remedy for restoring our fellowship with Him when the Holy Spirit had him write this:

“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9 (KJV)
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/mark-...ure-of-church/
It sounds like you're saying that Christ died only for those that believed in Him. If so, you're saying that He didn't die for the ungodly (Rom 5:6) and John was wrong when he wrote 1Jn 2:2.
 

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Those that do not believe in Jesus how can they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior??? Think!!
 

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I put my faith and trust in God and His Word not the ideas and opinions of little men. And you??
 

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Those that do not believe in Jesus how can they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior??? Think!!
What I think is that everything you believe is based on traditions of little men that are erroneously taught by the know-nothing denominational church system. Almost nothing you say is Biblical. Everything you say teeters on the edge of truth.

You probably even believe in the pagan, un-biblical pagan hell, where God tortures those who don't believe Him in fire, 24/7, forever. That usually is the case of people that don't believe their Bibles when it says that Christ died for the sins of the entire world. You probably even believe that everyone goes to Heaven when they die. You probably even buy into the pagan un-biblical belief that each man has a separate part called a soul. Belief in hell and the soul and 2 of many ways Satan uses to keep his favorite big lie, "Thou shall not surely die", alive and kicking. And, of course, no one has ever gone to Heaven except Christ - John 3:13
 
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Believe Jesus!!! Jesus has more to say about the all to very real hell than anyone whose words are recorded in the Bible!!
 

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Believe Jesus!!! Jesus has more to say about the all to very real hell than anyone whose words are recorded in the Bible!!
There is nothing in the Hebrew or Greek texts that comes close to describing the pagan concepts of hell that Christendom adores. Hell is found only in the translations, where it is used as an incorrect substitute for 3 totally unrelated Greek words and 1 Hebrew word. When the wretched translations quote Christ as saying hellfire, it is gehenna fire in the texts. The Sermon on the Mount is all about the Millennium, where Christ will rule, on earth, with an iron rod. Small infractions can bring the death penalty. The carcasses will be thrown into gehenna, the ever-burning trash pit outside of Jerusalem (Isa 66:24). What the fire doesn't consume, the worms (Strong's = maggots) will.

Nothing Christ ever said has anything to do with Satan's fake "hell" that you and 95% of Christendom have erroneously bought into. It's an insult to Christ that anyone would accuse Him of saying those things and an insult to God that He would torture His creation for unbelief.
 

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ROFL!!! Sounds like a very real hell to me!!!===. The carcasses will be thrown into, gehenna, the ever-burning trash pit outside of Jerusalem (Isa 66:24). What the fire doesn't consume, the worms (Strong's = maggots) will.
 

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There is nothing in the Hebrew or Greek texts that comes close to describing the pagan concepts of hell that Christendom adores. Hell is found only in the translations, where it is used as an incorrect substitute for 3 totally unrelated Greek words and 1 Hebrew word. When the wretched translations quote Christ as saying hellfire, it is gehenna fire in the texts. The Sermon on the Mount is all about the Millennium, where Christ will rule, on earth, with an iron rod. Small infractions can bring the death penalty. The carcasses will be thrown into gehenna, the ever-burning trash pit outside of Jerusalem (Isa 66:24). What the fire doesn't consume, the worms (Strong's = maggots) will.

Right. When Jesus says the fire isn't quenched and the worms don't die, Mark 9:48, he really means the fire and the worms continue, not the person thrown into Gehenna. Pretribbers, more than anyone, insist Jesus is is saying people will literally burn alive forever, in some place other than Gehenna. And, Pretribbers being liars then insist they're taking Jesus literally.
 

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The 'Israelites' referred to in Romans 11:26 are the Israel of God, NOT those people who call themselves Jews, but are not.

The doctrine of reprobates is that Antichrist Talmudists are Israel, i.e. those who say Jews are God's chosen people (which includes all pretribbers). They mindlessly chant Romans 11 to support their false teachings, or maybe they channel the devil, I don't know. But, Romans 11 twice identifies Christians as Israel. The root that Romans 11:17 says Christians are grafted to is Israel. And, in Romans 11:25, what which Christians are coming into is Israel. But, Pretribbers don't see it because they need grammar lessons or an exorcism.

Christians are Israel. Anyone who wishes to disagree denies Christ.
 
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Why not believe God's Word??

God's love for His chosen people is eternal. PTL.

21 “I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay on them. 22 From that day forward the people of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God. 23 And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. 24 I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offenses, and I hid my face from them.

25 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now restore the fortunes of Jacob and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. 26 They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. 27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord. Ezekiel 39:21-29
 

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Yes!!! gehenna, the ever-burning trash pit outside of Jerusalem is a word picture of the all to real eternal hell!!! Remember! Jesus hung on a Roman cross to pay your sin debt so that you need not go to hell unless you chose to!!
 

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"For you are a 2 holy people to the LORD your God; I the LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 7:6
 

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"For you are a 2 holy people to the LORD your God; I the LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 7:6

GISMYS, the people God chose to be a people for Himself are not Jews.

In the face of truth, the most common refuge of a pretribber is just to restate his false doctrine, or to re-quote scripture which he pretends supports his false doctrine. Pretribbers don't have the option of directly responding to criticism of their false doctrine.

If Jews are God's chosen people, why did God say [the kingdom of] Israel is not his people and he is not their God? Why did Jesus say [non-Christian] Jews are the children of the devil?

Cue the nonsense and anti-Christian reply of the Pretribber...

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"For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you… I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgements and do them. Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people and I will be your God" (Ezek. 36:24-28).

The day of Israel’s national conversion will be when the Messiah, Jesus, puts His feet on the Mount of Olives at the end of the great tribulation. He will then judge the nations and save the remnant of His people, Israel. Under strong conviction of sin, worked by the Holy Spirit, they will grieve over their terrible sins, pray for pardon and mercy, and accept Jesus as Messiah and Saviour:

"And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they have pierced; they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn… They will call on My name, and I will answer them. I will say, This is My people, and each one will say, the Lord is my God" (Zech. 12:10 and 13:9).
 

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ROFL!!! Sounds like a very real hell to me!!!===. The carcasses will be thrown into, gehenna, the ever-burning trash pit outside of Jerusalem (Isa 66:24). What the fire doesn't consume, the worms (Strong's = maggots) will.
There are a few Bibles that correctly omit the word hell altogether and use the words meant to be used, instead.
 
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