Because that is not what the Scripture you have cited is saying. The Bible is not something you make up for yourself to believe.
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Because that is not what the Scripture you have cited is saying. The Bible is not something you make up for yourself to believe.
Stranger
No, we have the scripture then in our heads, but that is the wrong head. What message was in the removal of John the Baptist's natural head?
"... Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." Eph 5:23
What was John the Baptist said?
"He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30
That is the Jesus in us that must increase, while the old man of us must decrease... even be killed.
The apostle Paul knew the scripture perhaps better than any other carnal man of his time yet until his encounter on the road to Damascus he did not know Jesus and therefore could not know God. He had to be
blinded to the foolishness unto which he was viewing and be touched and filled with Holy Ghost in order to see:
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized." Acts 9:17-18
We have the Law (the two great commandments) written in our hearts. We also memorize scripture and think and speak God's word. But anything else posing as God's word comes from the devil, the flesh, the imagination, or false prophets.
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16–17) (KJV 1900)
If you do not think scripture is perfect and thoroughly furnishes in Christ, I understand why you would look elsewhere.
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16–17) (KJV 1900)
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16–17) (KJV 1900)
I didn't say Scripture was not perfect. I said that is not what perfect is speaking to in (1 Cor. 13:10-11). And you know that yet feel you must twist and misrepresent what I said.
Stranger
The same word translated as perfect in both passages means complete. When the Scriptures were completed (to perfection, since they are the Word of God, and as Paul says in 2 Tim 3:16,17, TOTALLY SUFFICIENT for any Christian), the three spiritual gifts related to divine revelations were withdrawn.
The apostle John was the final prophet, and there were no claims of prophets among the Apostolic Fathers. When John says that no man should add to the prophecies of Revelation, he effectively closes out genuine prophecies and the gift of prophecy.
Just if scripture is perfect, and does all that the bits and pieces of tongues and prophecy could not do = give the whole picture, then why feed on the scraps when you have the whole?
Yes, the scripture was written by men inspired to do so by the Holy Spirit working in them. Similarly only by that same Holy Spirit working in us is anything we read or memorize or hear from the scriptures brought to Life in us. A spiritually dead man can memorize scripture for his own purposes [rather than God's] and still be dead even while reciting those dead words of scripture. You need some of that eye salve, my friend:
"I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see." Rev 3:18
Study and memorization of the scriptures is a good thing, but without the quickening of the Spirit the best of students would still remain dead.
"And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh." Ecc 12:12
Jesus said his words are Spirit and they are life. So we receive the fullness of the Spirit by immersing ourselves in God's word which instructs us on living a holy life. It was through the gift of tongues (God's word) that they received the Holy Spirit. And it's the same today, only through the written and spoken word that we we receive the Spirit today.
His words were Spirit and Life because they were alive in him. Memorizing scripture does not bring it to Life in us. The adversary when tempting Jesus [Matt 4:1-11] used the scriptures unsuccessfully against Jesus because like so many Bible students, he knew the words but he was of the wrong spirit. The quickening Spirit is essential to the resurrection of people.
Of course they do when they are quickened in us by the Holy Spirit. Consider again my friend the sincere atheist who believes that God is not. He will read and study that same inspired Bible that we do and receive nothing good, because the door to his heart is closed.
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Rev 3:20
Neither the paper Bible nor Jesus himself will force the way into the heart of a person who adamantly refuses to open the door to his heart. This is what "free will" really is: The freedom to NOT choose God:
"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD." Joshua 24:15
The choice is always ours. If we choose rightly God will help us, but God does not twist our arms to make us do anything.
The Holy Spirit is in the word and takes up residence in us through hearing.
“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” (1 Peter 1:23) (KJV 1900)
Why do most not believe? They are not Jesus' sheep.
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:” (John 10:27) (KJV 1900)
I don't believe you have said anything really different than what I said. Your expansion is different than mine. But it is OK as God is certainly right while every man is a liar as it is written.
I think it says "let God be true and every man a liar". Meaning scripture is always right.
All of us have been liars, my friend. The only one who would never lies at all any more while he had time would be one who has the whole mind of God and follows Him alone. One moment of quenching Spirit within will result in a lie when the person chooses in that moment to speak.
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