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Ritajanice

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Sister with all due respect I really would do well to follow God not man but thank you for the concern But I have seen what he teaches and his attitude and I think I will pass on what he has to say and follow God instead I think by what you and Behold are teaching it is you both that are on the milk
I just said that Behold is an anointed teacher...therefore teaches through the Holy Spirit...the Holy Spirit ministers to me and others through him.

Now, if you want to be an immature Born Again and say he’s on milk, go ahead....your words fall to the ground...

We are most definitely on different wavelengths in the Spirit....
 

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A born again , how did you word that . DOES not WANT TOO SIN . THUS THEY WOULD NOT JUSTIFY SIN .
YOU ARE CORRECT . SO again why are churches teaching ideas that those WHO embrace SIN
still KNOW GOD . THEY ARE LYING TO US SISTER .
CHURCHES fear the gay agenda , churches want to be able to SURVIVE and keep an income .
AND THAT IS and TRULY IS THE PROBLEM .
YOUR RIGHT , no lamb WANTS TO SIN . WE HATE THE HECK OUT of the evil of our own flesh .
AND IF and when we err we FEEL LIKE HELL WARMED OVER . WE have NO PEACE TILL WE CONFESS AND REPENT OF OUR SIN .
NO LAMB WOULD JUSTIFY the love of money , the prosperity gospel
NO LAMB would honor Gay marriage , no lamb would justify pornography or any lust .
WE HATE OUR FLESH . WE HATE IT NOW . ON that you said truly .
Why.....because the world is screwed up and they don’t even know it....are these vicars who marry gays, Born Again?...they will be accountable to God More so, because they are supposed teachers.

This world is getting worse and worse and in desperate need of God’s guidance.
 

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Sister with all due respect I really would do well to follow God not man but thank you for the concern But I have seen what he teaches and his attitude and I think I will pass on what he has to say and follow God instead I think by what you and Behold are teaching it is you both that are on the milk
On this we must agree . I love behold . I do .
but i have seen errors . He can for sure and for certain speak certain truth . HE sure can .
HE says a SOLID TRUTH . ONE I SAY TOO . THAT IT IS DIRE IMPORTANT TO BELIEVE ON CHRIST JESUS TO HAVE FAITH IN HIM .
He teaches a SOLID TRUTH that our TRUST MUST BE IN HE ALONE FOR SALVATION . HE IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT .
BUT THEN turns around and omits some of those very warnings even JESUS and the apostels gave .
I am NOT LEGALISTIC nor a pharisee just cause i remind the church , YE MUST CONTINUE IN CHRIST TO THE END .
NOR because i warn the church WHO YOU SERVE IS WHOSE YOU ARE .
and etc . that does and has concerned me . SEE I know from whence i came and i know what i was .
AND YET I TOO could still lip the name of JESUS CHRIST . BUT I DID NOT KNOW HIM . I DID NOT KNOW HIM .
My advice is real simple . IF JESUS or the apostels said it , BELIEVE IT AND TEACH IT . never try and twist it . NEVER .
JUST BELIVE IT , teach it , DO IT . FOR EVERY WORD OF GOD , whether WARNING or promise , IS GOOD FOR US .
WE NEED TO HEAR IT , WE NEED TO BE REMINDED OF IT
FOr all walk in CONTRARY FLESH and EVERY WORD OF GOD IS FOR OUR GOOD .
ITS TIME FOLKS GET BACK IN BIBLES FOR THEMSELVES .
 

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I have a trivia question .
WHO do you believe will recieve greater damanation
Those who were ice cold and followed a false religoin
or those who USED THE NAME OF CHRIST and yet DECIEVED the churches and world .
In this day and age CORRECTION IS A MUST . but then in truth its always been a must .
I always , by grace am fast to correct error . And to expose any and all who teach contrary to Christ .
AS SHOULD BE DONE and DONE FAST and quickly .
I am quite sure the answer to your trivia question is those who USED THE NAME OF CHRIST and yet DECIEVED the churches and world .For that is the answer given in scripture
 
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Why.....because the world is screwed up and they don’t even know it....are these vicars who marry gays, Born Again?...they will be accountable to God More so, because they are supposed teachers.

This world is getting worse and worse and in desperate need of God’s guidance.
And thus the real why is this . THEY DONT FOLLOW GOD CHRIST . THEY TOO are of the WORLD and are wolves in sheeps clothing
doing nothing but to decieve the flocks . THIS WORLD grows worse by the hour .
And sadly satan has managed to take over a lot of churches , NOT ALL , but a lot .
And now the light they see as light is but darkness leadingthem into only greater darkness .
the love they think is love is nothing but satan using the word love to lead them farther and farther into darkness
and more and more against the TRUTH which could have saved them .
 

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You tell me, how can a Born Again receive damnation..when they have been birthed in the spirit ?

A Born Again is right before God , they have been cleansed through the Spirit, their sin is now on Jesus..therefore they now walk in the newness of life, they are a new creation...have received the Holy Spirit into their hearts , therefore start their journey being led by the Holy Spirit.

What false religion are you talking about?
The born again WONT recieve damnation . THE PROBLEM IS most THINK THEY ARE BORN again YET FOLLOW another jesus
of their denominations own creation . THAT BE THE PROBLEM . THAT BE WHY , WHY I BEG PLEAD , HOLLER and CRY
TO GET BACK IN THE BIBLE FOR OURSELVES . FOR OURSELVES and NOT TO READ IT through the lens of denominations
BUT JUST READ IT FOR OURSELVES .
 

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I have already read the whole of Romans 6 and imo, it’s not saying what you are saying it to say.

I posted lots of scripture to you on how we are birthed in the Spirit...yet you have dismissed those, why?
Then tell me what Romans 6 is saying please that I may be correct please tell me what Paul is saying if I have misunderstood him Please for I am truly seeking the truth I beg of you show me what I have misunderstood for this is a salvation issue not a matter of lets just agree to disagree for God surely made his plan of salvation clear that we can be saved
 

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It is true we are buried with Christ, that is the symbolism of the water baptism.
Again Please read Romans 6 for Paul says it is a reality not a symbolism Paul Said God is doing the work of transformation not symbolizing but real time work
 

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the new life in Jesus, starts the day we are birthed in the Spirit....we become a new creation, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

You can’t birth yourself in the Spirit ,now can you.

Please show me where you are finding the phrase birthed in the Spirit. in the holy scriptures I fear you may be using the term incorrectly
 

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I will answer one question at a time...the new life in Jesus, starts the day we are birthed in the Spirit....we become a new creation, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

You can’t birth yourself in the Spirit ,now can you.

Death...is when we become Born Again..we died, yet we live because we were birthed in the Spirit...

We were dead in our sins before we became Born Again.
Death...is when we become Born Again..we died, yet we live because we were birthed in the Spirit...

We were dead in our sins before we became Born Again. Yes that is what Paul says in Romans 6 but how did Paul say that comes about see verse 3
 

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I have a question for you my dear friend . IT concerns your second sentence.
Can a man walking in sins , embracing sins , BE TRULY WALKING IN NEW LIFE . WHEN SIN IS DEATH
and the end is death . Now think about that for minute .
What i say next is not against you , cause i have no idea what you believe or how you see this .
But it is a reminder and a grave one too .
You are looking at a man who from an early age was told the gospel
And for years , at times i would speak it . I could lip the name of JESUS CHRIST
i even told an athiest he was headed to hell unless he believed ON JESUS CHRIST .
But the athiest saw RIGHT THROUGH ME and my friend too .
HE , lost as he was , saw the HYPROCRICY within us both .
Cause while we could stand and try and correct him , point him TO BELIEVING ON JESUS CHRIST
WHICH I WILL QUICKLY ADD IS NOT WRONG TO DO , I DO IT NOW .
BUT he saw something . Years later by grace i realized it too .
FOR i was a FAT HYPOCRITE , WHO THOUGH I claimed by MOUTH to KNOW THE WAY THE TRUTH the LIFE JESUS CHRIST
WALKED IN DARKNESS . I LIVED FOR ME SISTER . I got drunk on weekends
watched pornography , Loved my sin , yet lipped the name of JESUS . WHICH over ninety eight percent of christendom
STILL: DOES . i picked and chose what scriptures to hold too and what to omit .
I DID NOT KNOW HIM . I WAS SATANS SON and yet knew it NOT .
NEW LIFE means NOT what most churches are teaching us it means . NEW LIFE
entails LIFE and not death . WHO WE SERVE IS TRULY WHOSE WE ARE .
Keep asking questions my dear friend .
Very well said brother Amen
 
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Death...is when we become Born Again..we died, yet we live because we were birthed in the Spirit...

We were dead in our sins before we became Born Again. Yes that is what Paul says in Romans 6 but how did Paul say that comes about see verse 3
Being born again we become DEAD TO SIN . What we once embraced and lived in we now are dead too .
BEING raised from death and have become servants to Righteouness .
 

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We are buried with Christ, when we have been birthed in the Spirit..so NO..it’s not true.

We are water baptised out of obedience...water does NOT save..only the Spirit can do that.
You really need to do a study on what the bible is teaching about baptism you keep quenching the spirit when he is trying to teach you not trying to have no feeling but begging you to study the topic you reject
 

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Of course they aren’t walking in new life...Living in sin with a partner..no they aren’t walking in newness of life...

To every sin ,there are consequences....sin is death..but, we aren’t in sin , were in the Spirit.....were that new creation in Christ....a Born Again doesn’t want to sin either.

1 John 3:9KJV Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Yeah, I understand all that..you were a hypocrite and in ignorance..

You must be Born Again.....no lip service from a true Born Again..they are taught by the indwelling Holy Spirit..

1 John 1:6-10
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

it is n ot saying that we will not sin from time to time for we will even as we walk in the light (the spirit ) it is what we do when we slip if we confess our fault to the Lord his blood still covers us and we may do it a few time but as long as we confess our faults God is just to forgive it is when we continue to walk in the darkness and shun the light when we have lost our walk in the spirit and clung to the darkness that we have fallen from Gods grace

1 John 3:9KJV Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. This verse follows 1:8 and simply means we cannot by the spirit of God continue in sin now that we have been freed of it but we can fall from the grace by walking in the darkness same as Paul teaches in Romans 6
 

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YOUR correct WE cannot BIRTH OURSELVES into the SPIRIT . IT was GOD who drew me to CHRIST and put me in that bible .
Now remember that for years and years before this occured, which was may thirtieth of two thousand and six,
I COULD still LIP the name of JESUS and YET i was at that time the son of satan .
YES IT WAS THE GRACE OF GOD that drew me and CHANGED , yah lets heed that word too
CHANGED MY HEART . for many still support their own sins . THAT HEART has not BEEN CHANGED . NOR WAS MINE
WHEN my heart was CHANGED , BY GOD , IT THEN LOVED TRUTH and hated SIN . SURE I did not know as much i know now .
BUT GOD SURE WAS LOOKING OUT FOR ME and HIS LOVE SURE WAS PLACED UPON MY HEART .
THE LOVE that LOVETH and REJOICETH IN TRUTH . GODS WORDS ARE TRUTH . SEE i was TRULY CHANGED .
I Then no longer desired what i once desired . MANY have no idea what i speak of
cause in TRUTH They are still as lost as i once was , AND YET EVEN THEN i could still LIP the name of JESUS CHRIST .
BUT you are correct . The new life in JESUS started the very day I WAS BIRTHED IN SPIRIT . AND you are correct
THAT CAME FROM GOD , NOT FROM ME . HE CHANGED MY HEART , HE CHANGED MY DIRECTION
HE DREW ME TO THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST .
Notice i said the TRUE JESUS CHRIST
cause for years i followed , AS DO MANY , another jesus . THAT ONE COULD NOT AND DID NOT SAVE ME .
IT was the DEVIL DECIEVING ME . This might scare folks a bit . But its not complicated .
REMEMBER GOD DID THIS . HE changed me HE drew me TO JESUS CHRIST and HE put me in ONE BOOK.
THE BIBLE . Ever wonder why i pratically beg and plead for folks to RETURN TO THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES .
MEN are deceiving THE HELL INTO US . You might have expected me to say the HELL OUT OF US .
ONLY , ITS THE HELL INTO US . cause that will be the end of all who followed another jesus
or another false dead end religoin . THE grace GOD sent to me , THE BOOK HE put me into
IS THE SAME BOOK i have , FOR YEARS SISTER , FOR YEARS , been trying to get folks to get back into FOR THEMSELVES
and to stop reading it through the lens of their denominations or teachers . READ IT FOR YOU . FOR YOU .
ITS NOT COMPLICATED . MAN complicates it , THE SPIRIT simply makes it simple for us .
True brother true amen and again I say amen
 
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The born again WONT recieve damnation . THE PROBLEM IS most THINK THEY ARE BORN again YET FOLLOW another jesus
of their denominations own creation . THAT BE THE PROBLEM . THAT BE WHY , WHY I BEG PLEAD , HOLLER and CRY
TO GET BACK IN THE BIBLE FOR OURSELVES . FOR OURSELVES and NOT TO READ IT through the lens of denominations
BUT JUST READ IT FOR OURSELVES .
Amen brother could not have said it better amen
 
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the new life in Jesus, starts the day we are birthed in the Spirit....we become a new creation, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

You can’t birth yourself in the Spirit ,now can you.

Please show me where you are finding the phrase birthed in the Spirit. in the holy scriptures I fear you may be using the term incorrectly
I’m not really interested if you think I’m using God’s word incorrectly....only God can speak to my spirit...as I have a living relationship with him through the Holy Spirit.

I understand exactly what he is saying, when he says .

Flesh gives birth to Flesh.

Spirit gives birth to Spirit.

Look it up yourself....

I am Born Again and His Holy Spirit gave birth to my spirit and brought me Alive in Christ....all supernatural power of God through the Spirit.

Praise You Father God!!
 
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Being born again we become DEAD TO SIN . What we once embraced and lived in we now are dead too .
BEING raised from death and have become servants to Righteouness .
Yes just as Paul teaches in Romans chapter 6 and it comes about by being baptized in the name of Christ for there is no other name given where in we find salvation
 

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Yes just as Paul teaches in Romans chapter 6 and it comes about by being baptized in the name of Christ for there is no other name given where in we find salvation
Being Born Again did not come about by reading Romans 6...for me....so don’t preach that is the only way to be Born Again because it’s not..utter nonsense.

It’s comes about by being supernaturally birthed in the Spirit....which is like the wind.