RAPTURE....DENIERS

[Helen]

I try my best to not fall for or follow the doctrines of man .
The escape rapture being one of them.

 

[Willie T]

Ya know, just for kicks, go back and check out how many, many times that foolish doctrine has led seemingly rational people to actually publicly predict the end of the world.

 

[bbyrd009]

Please give your Scriptural evidence of WHERE you will be, WHOM you will be with, WHAT you will be seeing, and WHEN and WHY.

Glory to God,
Taken

a reflection on the contrast of your "up above the earth" and "Galileans, why do you stand there looking up into the sky?" should do there I guess. No offense, but I've repeated all the other stuff many, many times, and you declined to comment then, so I hope you understand? As long as one is seeking Death More Abundantly they will strenuously avoid Life, more abundantly simply as a means of self-preservation.

note that all of those Qs you ask are about tomorrow, right; you are asking for a -mancer to tell you the future, and I have no idea what will happen then, and furthermore, I would be deathly afraid that I might find what I had sought in that case! I mean gee, what if God has a better idea?

Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against your magic charms with which you ensnare people like birds and I will tear them from your arms; I will set free the people that you ensnare like birds.

 

[Taken]

a reflection on the contrast of your "up above the earth" and "Galileans, why do you stand there looking up into the sky?" should do there I guess. No offense, but I've repeated all the other stuff many, many times, and you declined to comment then, so I hope you understand? As long as one is seeking Death More Abundantly they will strenuously avoid Life, more abundantly simply as a means of self-preservation.

note that all of those Qs you ask are about tomorrow, right; you are asking for a -mancer to tell you the future, and I have no idea what will happen then, and furthermore, I would be deathly afraid that I might find what I had sought in that case! I mean gee, what if God has a better idea?

Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against your magic charms with which you ensnare people like birds and I will tear them from your arms; I will set free the people that you ensnare like birds.

A lot of words but didn't answer.

I asked nothing about magic.
Scripture reveals the future for those that belong to Christ, those who are Israel and those who are neither.
Seems you are unknowing of your own standing of which group you belong, when even that is clearly revealed in Scripture...

Matt 12
[30] He that is not with me is against me;

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[bbyrd009]

You can quote this ad infinitum, but you have no clue about what it really says.

well?

 

[Helen]

Ya know, just for kicks, go back and check out how many, many times that foolish doctrine has led seemingly rational people to actually publicly predict the end of the world.

True words.
They want to believe it because it is comfortable to believe it.
God did not create and train an army , ( or give us the armour in Eph 6) ..then change His mind and zap His glorious church out!

He will still be the Head and we the Body...in the Great Day Of His glory. Nor somewhere in the sweet by and by sitting on a fluffy white cloud.

But they like it, so they will keep it. And we will be here to help pick up the bits after their shock that they will be here through the thick and the thin.

 

[bbyrd009]

A lot of words but didn't answer.

a lot of Scripture, yes, and you can ignore It if you like

a reflection on the contrast of your "up above the earth" and "Galileans, why do you stand there looking up into the sky?" should do there I guess.

but the using Scripture as your personal hammer works fine too i guess, ty.
I know this is like no-holds-barred combat so to speak, so fwiw I wish you the best ok

 

[CoreIssue]

True words.
They want to believe it because it is comfortable to believe it.
God did not create and train an army , ( or give us the armour in Eph 6) ..then change His mind and zap His glorious church out!

He will still be the Head and we the Body...in the Great Day Of His glory. Nor somewhere in the sweet by and by sitting on a fluffy white cloud.

But they like it, so they will keep it. And we will be here to help pick up the bits after their shock that they will be here through the thick and the thin.

Create an army? God change his mind? Where did that nonsense come from?

You seem to forget Israel and church are coheirs in the body, not just church. And that the Land covenant has yet to be fulfilled. Or all Israel is to be saved is yet to be fulfilled.

Sitting on fluffy clouds? Absurd.

Go ahead and throw out all the verses of the Bible you don't like or try to spin them to some new meaning. It won't change anything.

You will pick up the pieces? No, some of your belief will be shocked whe snatched up with the rest of us or looking around saying where did all those people go?

 

[CoreIssue]

Ya know, just for kicks, go back and check out how many, many times that foolish doctrine has led seemingly rational people to actually publicly predict the end of the world.

You mean like the Millerites that produced Ellen White as a prophetess and the SDA? Or the Jehovah witness with all of its failed second coming prophecies?

 

[Helen]

No, some of your belief will be shocked whe snatched up with the rest of us or looking around saying where did all those people go?

You hope..very hopefully!! We will see ...

 

[CoreIssue]

You hope..very hopefully!! We will see ...

The Bible says it will happen.

 

[Helen]

The Bible says it will happen.

? yes, the bits and verses you like... we will see...

 

[CoreIssue]

? yes, the bits and verses you like... we will see...

I look at all the verses. You cannot show me a single verse that says anything to the contrary.

 

[Waiting on him]

The new birth is the first resurrection completed at the end of the world in the bodily resurrection. In the same hour the resurrection of the damned takes place.

I lost my head. Jesus is now my head. mrs waiting explained this lol!!

 

[Taken]

True words.
They want to believe it because it is comfortable to believe it.
God did not create and train an army , ( or give us the armour in Eph 6) ..then change His mind and zap His glorious church out!

He will still be the Head and we the Body...in the Great Day Of His glory. Nor somewhere in the sweet by and by sitting on a fluffy white cloud.

But they like it, so they will keep it. And we will be here to help pick up the bits after their shock that they will be here through the thick and the thin.

ZAP...lol. ZAP is cartoonish like bat-man, and not anything cartoonish about the Lord removing His Chruch from the Wrath being delivered upon the Earth.

If you were to recall, God lifted Noah up above the earth during Gods First destruction of the Earth with Water.

Gen 7
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

The next destruction will be with Fire. A boat would be rather useless....However a CLOUD, ah ha, full of WATER, and once again the tool (boat /cloud) is the temporary safe haven for the SAVED to be.

And those that remain till the end ON EARTH.... same as the earths first destruction...

Gen 6
[7] And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Whew...good thing for Noah, he was in a boat, above the face of the earth, eh?

Whew...good thing for me, I will be up in the fluffy white clouds.

Curious...Where are you going to be?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[bbyrd009]

I look at all the verses. You cannot show me a single verse that says anything to the contrary.

He who seeks to save his life will lose it
No one has ever gone up to heaven
there is only One Immortal
why do you stand there looking up into the sky?
you and your sons will be here with me
all go to then same place
etc, on and on

but you are right I guess, no one can show you these

 

[CoreIssue]

He who seeks to save his life will lose it
No one has ever gone up to heaven
there is only One Immortal
why do you stand there looking up into the sky?
you and your sons will be here with me
all go to then same place
etc, on and on

That was clear as mud.

 

[Waiting on him]

ZAP...lol. ZAP is cartoonish like bat-man, and not anything cartoonish about the Lord removing His Chruch from the Wrath being delivered upon the Earth.

If you were to recall, God lifted Noah up above the earth during Gods First destruction of the Earth with Water.

Gen 7
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

The next destruction will be with Fire. A boat would be rather useless....However a CLOUD, ah ha, full of WATER, and once again the tool (boat /cloud) is the temporary safe haven for the SAVED to be.

And those that remain till the end ON EARTH.... same as the earths first destruction...

Gen 6
[7] And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Whew...good thing for Noah, he was in a boat, above the face of the earth, eh?

Whew...good thing for me, I will be up in the fluffy white clouds.

Curious...Where are you going to be?

Glory to God,
Taken

I believe I’ll be here in my fire coat.

 

[bbyrd009]

That was clear as mud.

well, there you go then, you win

Scripture is clear as mud to you, congrats

 

[CoreIssue]

I believe I’ll be here in my fire coat.

What fire coat?