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It may not have occurred to you but the very god you have created is not the same God of the Bible who told Ancient Israel to kill all those people, men, women, and children who stand between their journey on the way to the promised land.

It was actually somewhat rare for God to order the killing of children and those were apparently extraordinary circumstances, the details of which we are not given. The fact is that had Israel done what they had been told to do, they wouldn't have had so many depraved humans around to influence them to grievous sin. But we are in a different time since the advent of Christ. What did Jesus say about little children? And I was speaking of the present not the past.
 
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i am not Calvinist nor do i agree with all there doctrine.. but i wouldnt call them a cult
 

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There are no such teachings on innocence and accountability found in the Bible!!!

If you truly are sincere and want to believe what the Bible say and teach, then absorb this biblical teaching and not listen to blind leaders leading the blind:

Romans 3:10-18

10) “AS IT IS WRITTEN, There is none righteous, no, not one:”

11) “There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.”

12) “They are all gone out, of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.”

13) “Their throat is an open sepulcher; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:”

14) “Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:”

15) “Their feet are swift to shed blood:”

16) “Destruction and misery are in their ways:”

17) “And the way of peace they have not known:”

18) “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

To God Be The Glory

Romans 5:13 New International Version (NIV)
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law.
 

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Romans 5:13 New International Version (NIV)
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law.

And I think we can add to that Romans 9:11 where Paul points to Jacob and Esau in the womb as having done neither good nor bad.
 
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During a special chapel service to celebrate the anniversary of Korean mission work, held on July 21, the Rev. Sun Bai Kim, associate for Korean Emerging Ministries said, “We, Korean American Presbyterians, have strong conviction with deep spiritual emotion and believe that we are debtors to the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) for the gospel of Jesus Christ. God opened the door to Korea and prepared faithful Presbyterian servants of the gospel for mission to Korea. For this, we are blessed.”
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - PC(USA) celebrates 130 years of Korean mission

So what exactly do Koreans feel thankful for concerning, what, being "debtors" to an organization that restarted, to favor Eisenhower's Korean war efforts in 1958, with the simple political science of erasing Korean rights held over from Korea, and previous Church mission choices? They pick a cheerleader to cover up the entire PCUSA movement probably was to harm ecumenicism for the Presbyterian body and Korean War politics. In the rights of the Church and the Church's morality intact around the world, clearly stepping in for native governance in 1885 was the correct stance instead of an entirely sick, unrelated, out of nothing campaign by Eisenhower, linking America to unattainable liberty standards I guess, or something else. Perhaps they could take all of the Royal lands, because they were helping Japanese, perhaps they could put some weird strongman like Syngman Rhee, and perhaps they could try to pioneer the Free Love movement with the first couple of Korea, and all of these together with Eisenhower's Religion in Office "Stand" with Presbyterianism is total control of what happened in Korea and its resulting politics. Place it with the PCA, too, they all switch around, they were all United Presbyterian Churches, none of them are part of where Presbyterianism is supposed to be.

Well hey you don't ever meet a Korean Presbyterian wearing a clown nose telling you to do the wave, Saturday night fever. Saint Andrew's cross Saturday Night fever dance.
Koreans will tell you that people here are lucky with inherited capitalism and its true they just lost everything in a Korean war. They get false interactions because of culture with other women or men and its horrible to take the most serious institutions of religion, dependability or appointment and lie. I haven't ever been told in any occasion I'm a talker on the subject and the narrow path is going to have to be acceptable or what else, that's a lie then.
We probably used the engines of society and social opinion to maneuver around their thick accents in the whole engineered TV civil rights movements of a few hoses and shoves.
Calvinism is like only having one purpose in mind suggesting a house, that allows proof no wrongdoing, disturbance, or unresolved issues the universities talking about, and diverting to a facebook exercise purposefully, which isn't going to have impact, which is indescribable barbarism. Every proof is of volunteerism in every 4 groups and every time and in every situation without high-maintenance personality in anything, and proof of free economic exchanges from everyone around until Korea closes and expects some sort of counter evidence that doesn't exist.

Travel from Academics to any Social comparative has the exact effects I mentioned here. The English opinion which was never pushed by me gets louder or domineering, when I was employed at choice and never complaining. It would be a total insult to family, process, and wisdom, at the very basic assumption of any social choice in professionalism, in the full cooperation to family and society's benefit in any first focused student organization by anyone. No other fact has ever a reason to reach anyone with thuggish propositions to be online and assaulting aegyo and uncreditable websites that others would only access to promote societal hysteria on unestablished facts when no one has the slightest hint of my deviance or occurrence or happening or reportable news event after may 2009 in anything, when I already had hundreds of dollars to go to 'a church ' or 'family' in 'however is best' and compliant in that and in everything to my best role. No slight initiation by me is ever suggestable, no slight inappropriate behavior is on any horizon, and no single sentence is interpretable to this point about impossibility of having future plans, headstrong ideas, or a path off campus. The Calvinistic Presbyterian environment as its appropriate for business anyway is in effect since 2007 and the project after separation is directly relatable and assigned every professional effort with everyone to be invited to be on board on the most open and appropriate dependable effect-producing association on campus. It would be Insanity to Never had any other word, or sociable gesture, besides following up an Agreement, a Positive facebook sign, then a gentleman's handshake, concerning One Business Proposition , with no money lost, and then be angry about skipping to its conclusion! I could sue for the Conclusion to Any agreed expected agreement.
 
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It may not have occurred to you but the very god you have created is not the same God of the Bible who told Ancient Israel to kill all those people, men, women, and children who stand between their journey on the way to the promised land.

To God Be The Glory

I just read about this in the first few chapters of Deuteronomy. Look at all the nations God commanded Israel to completely eradicate. Even the suckling babes were to be killed, and ordered to be done by God.
 
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I just read about this in the first few chapters of Deuteronomy. Look at all the nations God commanded Israel to completely eradicate. Even the suckling babes were to be killed, and ordered to be done by God.

So for those lost pagan nations was this a blessing or injustice for the innocents?
 

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Who stops to think about it and measure up? People who already abandon "3 year dependability" as being less dependable than a "3 year marriage" after 3 year date, and lets talk in total inefficiency. Never consulting a single opinion of record which are huge, or number, which are many, or witness, which haven't been claimed, and push some unexplained tired line that is unsubstantiated in a day and an outlier. Probably people who want to claim morality with rules and then insult it too. I got caught off from logically meeting standards at every single point of intersection, or sociable alternatives in anything, and I entered all accounting with the best for Korean leadership, no idea what they're doing. Pay some social triangle why don't you, its with fat women that disrupt free study for paid study specifically with Koreans while I free study who insult housing conditions to the free studiers that I'm left with, why aren't I a whistle blower and also helping business climate. No professional Auditors of the sort to issue unmodified opinions on financial statements have some particular point of time in a single day to have been socially correct on over 10 years ago, concerning a usual amount of e-mail, unhurried business, or 200 dollars that isn't ever given a receipt to anything because the allocation was in process being defined by the recipient.
 
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During a special chapel service to celebrate the anniversary of Korean mission work, held on July 21, the Rev. Sun Bai Kim, associate for Korean Emerging Ministries said, “We, Korean American Presbyterians, have strong conviction with deep spiritual emotion and believe that we are debtors to the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) for the gospel of Jesus Christ. God opened the door to Korea and prepared faithful Presbyterian servants of the gospel for mission to Korea. For this, we are blessed.”
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - PC(USA) celebrates 130 years of Korean mission

So what exactly do Koreans feel thankful for concerning, what, being "debtors" to an organization that restarted, to favor Eisenhower's Korean war efforts in 1958, with the simple political science of erasing Korean rights held over from Korea, and previous Church mission choices? They pick a cheerleader to cover up the entire PCUSA movement probably was to harm ecumenicism for the Presbyterian body and Korean War politics. In the rights of the Church and the Church's morality intact around the world, clearly stepping in for native governance in 1885 was the correct stance instead of an entirely sick, unrelated, out of nothing campaign by Eisenhower, linking America to unattainable liberty standards I guess, or something else. Perhaps they could take all of the Royal lands, because they were helping Japanese, perhaps they could put some weird strongman like Syngman Rhee, and perhaps they could try to pioneer the Free Love movement with the first couple of Korea, and all of these together with Eisenhower's Religion in Office "Stand" with Presbyterianism is total control of what happened in Korea and its resulting politics. Place it with the PCA, too, they all switch around, they were all United Presbyterian Churches, none of them are part of where Presbyterianism is supposed to be.

Well hey you don't ever meet a Korean Presbyterian wearing a clown nose telling you to do the wave, Saturday night fever. Saint Andrew's cross Saturday Night fever dance.
Koreans will tell you that people here are lucky with inherited capitalism and its true they just lost everything in a Korean war. They get false interactions because of culture with other women or men and its horrible to take the most serious institutions of religion, dependability or appointment and lie. I haven't ever been told in any occasion I'm a talker on the subject and the narrow path is going to have to be acceptable or what else, that's a lie then.
We probably used the engines of society and social opinion to maneuver around their thick accents in the whole engineered TV civil rights movements of a few hoses and shoves.
Calvinism is like only having one purpose in mind suggesting a house, that allows proof no wrongdoing, disturbance, or unresolved issues the universities talking about, and diverting to a facebook exercise purposefully, which isn't going to have impact, which is indescribable barbarism. Every proof is of volunteerism in every 4 groups and every time and in every situation without high-maintenance personality in anything, and proof of free economic exchanges from everyone around until Korea closes and expects some sort of counter evidence that doesn't exist.

Travel from Academics to any Social comparative has the exact effects I mentioned here. The English opinion which was never pushed by me gets louder or domineering, when I was employed at choice and never complaining. It would be a total insult to family, process, and wisdom, at the very basic assumption of any social choice in professionalism, in the full cooperation to family and society's benefit in any first focused student organization by anyone. No other fact has ever a reason to reach anyone with thuggish propositions to be online and assaulting aegyo and uncreditable websites that others would only access to promote societal hysteria on unestablished facts when no one has the slightest hint of my deviance or occurrence or happening or reportable news event after may 2009 in anything, when I already had hundreds of dollars to go to 'a church ' or 'family' in 'however is best' and compliant in that and in everything to my best role. No slight initiation by me is ever suggestable, no slight inappropriate behavior is on any horizon, and no single sentence is interpretable to this point about impossibility of having future plans, headstrong ideas, or a path off campus. The Calvinistic Presbyterian environment as its appropriate for business anyway is in effect since 2007 and the project after separation is directly relatable and assigned every professional effort with everyone to be invited to be on board on the most open and appropriate dependable effect-producing association on campus. It would be Insanity to Never had any other word, or sociable gesture, besides following up an Agreement, a Positive facebook sign, then a gentleman's handshake, concerning One Business Proposition , with no money lost, and then be angry about skipping to its conclusion! I could sue for the Conclusion to Any agreed expected agreement.
It's a pity when the progress of the Gospel gets mixed up with politics. Believers proclaiming the Gospel should be thankful for blessings in Providence, rather than identified with particular political associations.
 

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Predestination is hangers in car windows and red Korean tassels. As for my end of the arrangement, I'm atleast 50% here for 100,000 dollar loans in 20,000 dollar increments at 5% to banks, or what?
 

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It's a pity when the progress of the Gospel gets mixed up with politics. Believers proclaiming the Gospel should be thankful for blessings in Providence, rather than identified with particular political associations.

The Gospels should influence politics but politics should not influence the gospel.
 
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i am not Calvinist nor do i agree with all there doctrine.. but i wouldnt call them a cult
People call Calvinism a cult because they hate God if what the Calvinists say is true. And this also shows an ignorance of Church history where the Council of Ephesus (431) determined Augustinianism (Calvinism's forerunner) was true to scripture, while condemning free will as heresy. So in essence it a case of the heretics calling the truth heresy.
 

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Unfortunately in several threads many have attempted to get him to offer biblical proof. He has yet to do so, and the requests are generally met with insults, claims he's done so already, or avoidance

P4T,

I choose not to respond further to posters who do not provide biblical support for their positions and are not prepared to dialogue concerning those positions.

Assertions are no more than personal opinions.

Oz
 
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