What is the "Abomination of Desolation"?

[Davy]

Ok, let me put it to you in a simple question. How many years was it till the Jews were let back from the desolation and restore Israel after the Romans destruction of the Temple in 70 AD.

They had to wait, till 1948.

Now, how long has it been since the restoration of their sacrificial system in the tabernacle..........

There is no Temple in Jerusalem, they are still suffering from the desolation, and they will not see it until Christ brings down the New Jerusalem, to be with those who through His power overcome sin, scripture is clear.

Revelation 3:11-13

11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 21:2-13

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

You're not up with the times today. The Jews have the materials ready to build their 3rd temple. And already some Israeli officials, which used to not be interested, are now getting on board. Afterall, until they returned and became a nation again, they couldn't build their temple again and start sacrifices. Because they still reject Jesus as The Christ, they believe they are still required to worship per the old covenant. And as already stated, a standing temple in Jerusalem for the false-Messiah to sit in is required by God's Word.

 

[farouk]

Proverbs 17:15 KJV
[15] He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord .

Tecarta BibleWho justified you???

Good verse there; the great truth of Biblical justification has moral underpinnings indeed...

 

[Hobie]

You're not up with the times today. The Jews have the materials ready to build their 3rd temple. And already some Israeli officials, which used to not be interested, are now getting on board. Afterall, until they returned and became a nation again, they couldn't build their temple again and start sacrifices. Because they still reject Jesus as The Christ, they believe they are still required to worship per the old covenant. And as already stated, a standing temple in Jerusalem for the false-Messiah to sit in is required by God's Word.

Yes, and why didn't they build it in 1967 when they gained full control of the temple mount, it will be desolate as what did the lamb sacrifice point to, in fact the whole sacrificial system. So the idea of building what would be a 'abomination' as it rejects what the whole purpose was and points away from Christ and His ministry now in the heavenly sanctuary. This is a “transgression of desolation” and the final setting up of “an abomination that maketh desolate” of the end time. Bible prophecy has given it such a name because this massive diversion away from Jesus Christ alone, which has been “set up” in the heart of Christianity, is not only an attack on Christ’s heavenly sanctuary ministration but also leads to “desolation” in the heart of the sinner, who is also spoken of as “the temple of God”.

1 Corinthians 3:16

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

 

[Hobie]

Now as for a standing temple in Jerusalem, you misunderstand as the antichrist power has already gotten in the church. Yes, Christianity has allowed basically the 'Great Apostasy' we see told by Paul in 2 Thessalonians...

"3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 .

Here Paul informs the Christians of Thessalonica that a great apostasy must occur before the return of Christ, when "the Man of Sin is revealed". This started to happen when Paul was telling them at the time of the early church, and soon after, Bible scholars see the fall of the Roman Empire which allow this revealing. Jerome specifically in interpreting the "Man of Sin", declares that the Roman Empire has to come to an end for it to come and be revealed and it is in the Church. Basically the early Christian church fell away from the original faith founded by Jesus and the Apostles. The church on its own perception of authority changed the doctrines of the early church and allowed pagan mysteries, pagan festivals, sun worship and idol worship into the church. The church made changes using claims of tradition and not from scripture, not just in doctrine but in the law and worship. So see worship again like the Jews was changed, to attract and convert people to Christianity, the church allowed pagan beliefs and practices to creep within the church. So yes, as you say it has set up in the 'temple' and a antichrist power has permeated it.

 

[ScottA]

True worship to the One who deserves it is what is the issue, as Satan has hijacked it through the abomination of idols and its various forms of corruption of his worship such as the money changers who made the temple a den of thieves rather then worship, or the traditions they had picked up that overturned Gods law, etc.. They had suffered desolation since their first temple was destroyed, and the people had been led full circle to disobedience and abomination again and the leaders were at the forefront. We see it as Jesus comments that in spite of their apparent religiosity they were still breaking God's law even as their forefathers had during Isaiah's and Daniel's day....

"6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."Mark 7:6-13 King James Version (KJV)

Notice Jesus calls them out, "Well hath Isaiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men... full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition... making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered". Once again the Jews found themselves immersed in vain and wrong worship that led to the abomination all the way to crucifying the Son of God.

The second temple was honored with the living presence of the Son of God in whom dwelt the fullness of the Godhead bodily, who was God Himself manifest in the flesh. With the presence of Christ, the second temple exceeded the first temple in glory. Jesus points out what will cause the desolation....

"1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.......
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?...........
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate." Matthew 23 (Shortened a bit)

Jesus condemned them for their abominations and one that stands out was when He cleansed the temple of the abomination they had created inside it. On these times He expressed His anger at the desecration of His holy place, and in detail He prophesized the events of the coming destruction. We see a direct connection to the coming desolation in Luke 19...

"37 And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;
38 Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.
39 And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples.
40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;
46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves." Luke 19:37-46.

The real controversy between Jesus and the Jews was over the abomination they had made of worship, and we see what was to be the culmination of the evil which resulted, in verse 47:

"And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him," Luke 19:47

You are referring to things in history. I'm not. Nor do I consider the things of history to be the "cause" of desolation, but rather the consequence.

 

[Hobie]

You are referring to things in history. I'm not. Nor do I consider the things of history to be the "cause" of desolation, but rather the consequence.

Prophecy tells you what is going to happen in history, they are linked. You cant just close your eyes to it and the clues laid out so anyone can follow them, and figure it out...Take for instance the woman on the beast.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth."

We see it is a entity "drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus" so that gives us clues in history. Notice again it is about worship, "full of names of blasphemy" or how its perverted, and we see again "full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication" and it gives us a clue which most who know their history can discern, "The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth."

 

[Davy]

Yes, and why didn't they build it in 1967 when they gained full control of the temple mount, it will be desolate as what did the lamb sacrifice point to, in fact the whole sacrificial system. So the idea of building what would be a 'abomination' as it rejects what the whole purpose was and points away from Christ and His ministry now in the heavenly sanctuary. This is a “transgression of desolation” and the final setting up of “an abomination that maketh desolate” of the end time. Bible prophecy has given it such a name because this massive diversion away from Jesus Christ alone, which has been “set up” in the heart of Christianity, is not only an attack on Christ’s heavenly sanctuary ministration but also leads to “desolation” in the heart of the sinner, who is also spoken of as “the temple of God”.

1 Corinthians 3:16

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Like I said, you're not up with the times today. Israel may have become a nation state again by God's Hand ultimately, but it happened through the United Nations apparatus, and that apparatus still controls Israel's borders. The Israel general Moshe Dayan gave back the section of Jerusalem they took during the '67 war. You think he made that decision all on his own?

Today's orthodox Jews in Jerusalem building another temple for the end is Bible prophecy. Doesn't matter if you cannot see the events for it aligning up today.

Rev 11:1-2
11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
KJV


The Temple Institute: ~The Holy Temple in Jerusalem: Yesterday Tomorrow Today

 

[ScottA]

Prophecy tells you what is going to happen in history, they are linked. You cant just close your eyes to it and the clues laid out so anyone can follow them, and figure it out...Take for instance the woman on the beast.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth."

We see it is a entity "drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus" so that gives us clues in history. Notice again it is about worship, "full of names of blasphemy" or how its perverted, and we see again "full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication" and it gives us a clue which most who know their history can discern, "The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth."

Yes...but I was simply answering the Original Post question.

 

[Hobie]

Like I said, you're not up with the times today. Israel may have become a nation state again by God's Hand ultimately, but it happened through the United Nations apparatus, and that apparatus still controls Israel's borders. The Israel general Moshe Dayan gave back the section of Jerusalem they took during the '67 war. You think he made that decision all on his own?

Today's orthodox Jews in Jerusalem building another temple for the end is Bible prophecy. Doesn't matter if you cannot see the events for it aligning up today.

Rev 11:1-2
11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
KJV


The Temple Institute: ~The Holy Temple in Jerusalem: Yesterday Tomorrow Today

Look at the verse..
Revelation 11:2
But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

You are dealing with Bible prophecy that has a historic timeline which has already come to pass.
Daniel said that that the saints would be given to a apostate power for "a time and times and half a time". A time represents a year in the Hebrew 360-day year. So 3 1/2 times is 3 1/2 years. This equals 42 months based on the biblical 30-day month or 1,260 days.

Revelation 13:5 speaks of this same time.

Revelation 13:5
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months."

Revelation 12:6
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Here Revelation 12:6 confirms this when it says that the church of Jesus would hide in the wilderness for exactly 1260 days.

If you put all the verses concerning the apostates power it becomes clear who it it. The following verses then, refer prophetically to a period of 1260 years of apostasy prevailing in the church:

Revelation 11:3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

The two witnesses is a reference to the law and the prophets, the word of God. For 1260 years scriptural truth would be suppressed, obscured by the traditions of men, by the apostate church. The true church would flee persecution by the apostate church, and be sustained by God for 1260 years. The 1260 days are also referred to as 3 1/2 times as I said in Daniel:

Daniel 7:25
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Daniel 12:7
And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Revelation 12:14
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

You can see all these verses describe 1260 years of the antichrist power with its blasphemy, persecution, and apostasy, through which the true believers would persevere and emerge from the wilderness at the conclusion of 1260 years.

In the verse you quoted in Rev 11:2, the apostate church, referred to here as Gentiles, will be dominant for 1260 years. Their judgment is to be delayed (measure not), not to be done until after the true church (temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein, v. 1) is judged as judgment begins with the saints.

1 Peter 4:17
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

This is all the same time and the apostate church, or Mystery Babylon, will face its judgment at the end.

 

[Davy]

Look at the verse..
Revelation 11:2
But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

You are dealing with Bible prophecy that has a historic timeline which has already come to pass.
Daniel said that that the saints would be given to a apostate power for "a time and times and half a time". A time represents a year in the Hebrew 360-day year. So 3 1/2 times is 3 1/2 years. This equals 42 months based on the biblical 30-day month or 1,260 days.

You're being deceived by man's Preterist doctrines. That Rev.11 Scripture is not history; it has not yet come to pass. It is showing another Jewish temple in Jerusalem for the end of this world. The 42 months is linked to the reign of the 'dragon' in Rev.13. The Rev.13 beast of ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns is not historical. And the Rev.11 timing is the 6th and 7th Trumpets. Jesus returns on the 7th Trumpet per Rev.11, so that shoots a huge hole in any of man's theories that that was historical.

I don't have to repeat this for all the other Revelation verse you quoted, because the 6th & 7th Trumpet events in Revelation 11 is enough proof that it isn't historical, but is still yet future.

 

[Hobie]

Take a look at the political or temporal power definition of the antichrist power the prophecy points to, along with its religious power. 'The temporal power or jurisdiction of the Holy See designates the political and secular influence of the Holy See, that is jurisdiction of the pope of the Catholic Church, as distinguished from spiritual and pastoral activity.' It was given this power in the seat of Rome and it oversaw the 'Holy Roman Empire' and the dominated kings and kingdoms in the Middle or Dark Ages for the prophetic 1260 years. French troops commanded by Napoleon Bonaparte defeated the papal troops and occupied the Papal States and went on to Rome basically to take away this temporal power along with its domination religious power. In 1798, upon his refusal to renounce his temporal power, Pius was taken prisoner and transported to France where he died.

The temporal power of the antichrist power receive a deadly wound and it looked like it was done. But just as prophecy said, it came back, although many try to cover it up saying it happen in ancient times or in the future. Read your history and compare to the prophecy in scripture, it matches up.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

The slaying of the Lamb before the foundation of the world.

Um--NO. "The Abomination of Desolation" (also called the "Abomination that Makes Desolate" or the "Abomination that Causes Desolation") is a specific event "spoken of by the Prophet Daniel". This is a reference to Daniel 9:27. Daniel knew nothing of "the Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world". The original desecration occurred when Antiochus Epiphanies set up an altar to Zeus in the Temple in Jerusalem--he also sacrificed a pig there and announced that he was Zeus in the flesh. Jesus referred to that original desecration approximately 200 years after it happened and was looking into the future. So it is clear that something similar will happen again in the future. That is why the Temple must be rebuilt at some point in the future--in order to be desecrated by the Antichrist.

 

[ScottA]

Um--NO. "The Abomination of Desolation" (also called the "Abomination that Makes Desolate" or the "Abomination that Causes Desolation") is a specific event "spoken of by the Prophet Daniel". This is a reference to Daniel 9:27. Daniel knew nothing of "the Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world". The original desecration occurred when Antiochus Epiphanies set up an altar to Zeus in the Temple in Jerusalem--he also sacrificed a pig there and announced that he was Zeus in the flesh. Jesus referred to that original desecration approximately 200 years after it happened and was looking into the future. So it is clear that something similar will happen again in the future. That is why the Temple must be rebuilt at some point in the future--in order to be desecrated by the Antichrist.

Those may have been abominations, they may have even caused desolation, but they are not responsible for all desolation. Those all pointed to the abomination against Christ...but that's all.

 

[CoreIssue]

Those may have been abominations, they may have even caused desolation, but they are not responsible for all desolation. Those all pointed to the abomination against Christ...but that's all.

More of your personal religion.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Those may have been abominations, they may have even caused desolation, but they are not responsible for all desolation. Those all pointed to the abomination against Christ...but that's all.

Jesus referred to that event in His prophecy about the future in Matthew 24:15. Are you suggesting that the Lord Jesus didn't know what He was talking about?? I think you'd better read your Bible a bit more diligently.

 

[ScottA]

More of your personal religion.

Says he who doesn't know his bible (and has to have chapter and verse and quotation marks).

 

[CoreIssue]

Jesus referred to that event in His prophecy about the future in Matthew 24:15. Are you suggesting that the Lord Jesus didn't know what He was talking about?? I think you'd better read your Bible a bit more diligently.

I was hoping he was just confused and arrogant. But he has let enough out of the bag showing he is cult.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Says he who doesn't know his bible (and has to have chapter and verse and quotation marks).

The proper way to cite Scripture is to cite Book, chapter and verse (along with quotation marks so that your reader can tell where the Scripture leaves off and your comments begin)--so that you both can "be on the same page".

 

[ScottA]

Jesus referred to that event in His prophecy about the future in Matthew 24:15. Are you suggesting that the Lord Jesus didn't know what He was talking about?? I think you'd better read your Bible a bit more diligently.

No, that is not what I am suggesting, nor am I suggesting anything. He was confirming the signs that were written, as of course He would. But by definition, it is not the prophecy or the sign that is the abomination, but rather the actual abomination, which abomination was against Christ in God.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

No, that is not what I am suggesting, nor am I suggesting anything. He was confirming the signs that were written, as of course He would. But by definition, it is not the prophecy or the sign that is the abomination, but rather the actual abomination, which abomination was against Christ in God.

It is clear that you know nothing about this so it is probably best to not comment on it.