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You are making the Christ more of a coward than His followers. What He feared was the separation He would have to go through after drinking the cup of His Father’s wrath. See Psalms 75:8. Peter never cowarded at being crucified, and yet the Christ did? Wowzers!
There's an old hymn with a line in it which says, "Yield not to temptation, for yielding is sin..." Not a sin to be tempted, but to give in to it.
It boils down to them believing the cross did 1/2, they did the other 1/2. So the cross made them saveable, but not save them by itself.
The Hebrews 5 passage is speaking of how God experienced what it was like to be human. It’s not that He couldn’t know them, but that He truly experienced the reality of hunger, thirst, pain, sickness, &c. It’s not that He learned something He didn’t know. You can’t divorce His divinity from His humanity, as you repeatedly do.
Really? He was conceived by the Holy Spirit but somehow wasn't filled with the Holy Spirit. How'd that happen?
I don't divorce them, I point out that He was simultaneously both. When He said, "I and My Father are One" He was speaking as Almighty God but when He said, "The Son of Man can do nothing of Himself" He was speaking in His humanity.
you have a good point i went through read the scripture ..i just dont see it as tempted to run from the cross .
no i have to disagree on that to many times he told them of his death ..at this point we disagree
What He meant by “The Son of Man can do nothing of Himself” was He couldn’t go rouge. He had a plan to fulfill. His will was the fulfill His Father’s will.
John the Baptist is positively identified as being filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb, but we're going to doubt that the One John was specifically raised up as "the voice of one crying in the wilderness" to announce His arrival had that same Spirit?
So, how does this post disprove that Jesus had two natures and at times spoke and acted according to His divinity and other times spoke and acted in His humanity?
I agree that He had two natures, fully divine, fully human. We can read Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name.[Philippians 2:5-9] By emptying Himself, it does not mean He laid aside His deity, but rather, He chose to not exercise them at certain times. He could not be omnipresent in His flesh, but we can see where He healed many without being in their presence. He spoke out of both natures as He deemed necessary.
But, isn't that saying the same thing? If I lay aside my new $350.00 Fluke 87V and test that 9V with my tongue, haven't I chosen to not exercise the Fluke?
But comparing the Fluke 87v to what the Christ did is not the same. The Fluke 87v is not who you are.
Agreed, the lying is unreal. Nowhere have I ever stated what he claims. Thanks for having my back bro.@Preacher4Truth does no such thing. You’re perpetual lying is quite telling.
Wrong again, but you’re above being corrected.
This is all over the place. You said “From my perspective the cross saves me 100%; but...” There’s no but to this. It either saves 100% or it does it part so you could do yours. Sadly, you avow the latter rather than the former.
They can’t debate us without lying on us, seeing the scriptures are on our side, not theirs. Man, the local hardware store has made a killing selling all that straw.
