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It does not
Let us teach you then.

Man was formed from the dust of the "EARTH". so when God created the EARTH man was in it, (the EARTH, his body). just as the animals and the plants.

now do that address the realities of Genesis 1:1. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the _______ " fill in the blank. for all was in the EARTH when God created it.. .... :eek:

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Let us teach you then.

Man was formed from the dust of the "EARTH". so when God created the EARTH man was in it, (the EARTH, his body). just as the animals and the plants.

now do that address the realities of Genesis 1:1. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the _______ " fill in the blank. for all was in the EARTH when God created it.. .... :eek:

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False.

The earth that man's body would be formed from existed from the beginning. But man did not.
 

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False.

The earth that man's body would be formed from existed from the beginning. But man did not.
My God how ignorant people are. man was in the begining before the EARTH was CREATED, which is God plan. scripture, Isaiah 45:18 "For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else".

so your assessment is false.

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Another problem for those who want to say dinosaurs coexisted with man is the ark.

There is no way such as the Tyrannosaurus rex or brontosaurus could be put on the ark.
 

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My God how ignorant people are. man was in the begining before the EARTH was CREATED, which is God plan. scripture, Isaiah 45:18 "For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else".

so your assessment is false.

PICJAG.
Says the man who rejects the Trinity.
 

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Another problem for those who want to say dinosaurs coexisted with man is the ark.

There is no way such as the Tyrannosaurus rex or brontosaurus could be put on the ark.
no problem. baby T-Rexes.....

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A very controversial topic
Doesn't have to be.

Before we called them dinosaurs, they were called dragons.

There is no record in the Bible of the dinosaur. The two instances and Job often cited as proof can also be a hippopotamus or rhinoceros and a whale.

A rhino with a tail like a cedar tree? That doesn't sound right. There are other aspects of the descriptions that don't seem the same to me.

Next argument is they drowned in the Flood.

Which is false because Noah 2 of every living kind on the earth onto the ark to preserve them.

They have no other argument.

Reptiles grow lifelong. In the time before the flood, they may have lived very long lifespans, reaching great size. Noah didn't have to find the largest specimens, and he took of every type, but not necessarily every different breed, if you will.

Next up is young versus old earth.

They claim the earth is 6000 years old because that's the age of man.

But the age of man and the age of the earth are two different issues.

In 6 days God created the earth and everything in it, and rested on the seventh day, so the sabbath is a rest for the seventh day. So in the same 6 days, God created man and dinos.

So the younger theory does not work because that means the dinosaurs existed before man.

How is earth, we don't know.

But we do know that multitudes of fossils exist. Ocean living ancient fossils are found on high mountain tops.

Nothing here says dinos existed before man, except by a day or so.

The fossils were laid down in the flood of course. And the many many histories and accounts even into the modern day inform us that some dinos still do exist in very isolated pockets.

In 6 days . . .

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Mark
 

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Contrary to the claims of several, believing in pre-Adamic is not a support of theistic evolution, an earlier race of man or any kind of race.

Angels are a company. What I believe is a company on earth was created. Meaning all created at one time and all rise and fall as individuals. So no issue of salvation.

I defy anyone to show me where the Bible sets the age of the earth. The age of man on the earth, yes, but not the age of the earth.

That would be within 6 days of creating man, the same sort of day that God set apart as a sabbath rest for Israel.

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Doesn't have to be.

Before we called them dinosaurs, they were called dragons.



A rhino with a tail like a cedar tree? That doesn't sound right. There are other aspects of the descriptions that don't seem the same to me.



Reptiles grow lifelong. In the time before the flood, they may have lived very long lifespans, reaching great size. Noah didn't have to find the largest specimens, and he took of every type, but not necessarily every different breed, if you will.



In 6 days God created the earth and everything in it, and rested on the seventh day, so the sabbath is a rest for the seventh day. So in the same 6 days, God created man and dinos.

Dragons are not dinosaurs. No resemblance to the mythological creatures.

Some also say they were elephants. Trunk was called jail and their tusks referred to some of the descriptions.

Bottom line is no one using the Hebrew called them dinosaurs.

Other parts of the book also referred to what he believed to be whales.

There were lots kinds of dinosaurs, small to large. They are all gone and there is absolutely no record of them in human history, Bible or otherwise.

It says he took of every kind. But he took no dinosaurs.

I did a lot of research on this in the past. None of the experts in the area say dinosaurs coexisted with man. Biblical or otherwise.

You cannot dismiss science either. Signs can find no evidence of the animals listed in the Bible coexisting with dinosaurs. Absolutely not there.

The Bible does not distinguish between species and sub species. It was just kinds.

Obviously since then such as birds have adapted to many different kinds of birds. But they are still birds.

Same with dogs, cats, snakes, cattle etc.

Experts of also calculated the capacity of the art. It could actually handle every kind of animal with room to spare.

The Bible does not say God created the earth in six days.

The earth was created in verse one, which is never call the first day.

You cannot come up with one grain of proof dinosaurs coexisted with me.

Nor can you come up with any proof from the Bible the earth is only 6000 years old.

It says man is 6000 years old but is totally silent on the age of the earth.

In this link I get biblical that there was life, cities, etc. on this earth before Adam. Proof that you cannot provide to the contrary.

Pay close attention rise they said, using the same words as in Genesis, that God did not create the your formless and void.

As well word talks about all the life is gone from the earth and all the cities are destroyed. Something that has never been true since Adam.
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Nothing here says dinos existed before man, except by a day or so.

The fossils were laid down in the flood of course. And the many many histories and accounts even into the modern day inform us that some dinos still do exist in very isolated pockets.

In 6 days . . .

Much love!
Mark
 

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There is no record in the Bible of the dinosaur. The two instances and Job often cited as proof can also be a hippopotamus or rhinoceros and a whale.

Oh but there is

Job 40:15 "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox."

God is saying that he made the "behemoth" at that same time that he made Job's soul. There is a great argument amongst scholars as just what these "behemoth" are. They argue between the hippopotamus or an elephant.

Job 40:16 "Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly."

Job 40:17 "He moveth his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his stones are wrapped together."

Are we talking about an elephant or a hippopotamus? Of course not, for neither of these animals have tails the size of cedars. We are talking about Dinosaurs, for the first earth age. For that is when the soul of Job was created. These animals did not back away from even a cedar tree, for they have the strength to move them.

Job 40:18 "His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron."
 

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Another problem for those who want to say dinosaurs coexisted with man is the ark.

There is no way such as the Tyrannosaurus rex or brontosaurus could be put on the ark.

Noooo you don't get it,we walked with the dinosaurs ,however we were not in a flesh body,we were in our spiritual bodies which did have mass.At that time,millions of years ago satan ,then known as Lucifer was 3rd in command ,then he wanted to be top dog ,so to speak,and he led a coup,and convinced a 1/3 of Gods children to follow him.So instead of God killing him then,which would had meant killing a 1/3 of His children,He destroyed that age ,that's how the earth became void and without form,as it was not created that way.

Look at some of the below pictures

footprint beside a dinosaur - Google Search:

Let's go to Jeremiah

Jeremiah 4:22 "For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge."

Jeremiah 4:23 "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light."

God is telling us here exactly what He did to the earth at one time. This was in the first earth age. The earth spoken of here, is the "erets" as given in the Hebrew text. In Strong's Hebrew dictionary # 776.

God is saying that He was so angry before, in that first earth age, that He totally destroyed everything. In the Hebrew, from Genesis 1:2, "tohu va bohu" which means, "without form and void" "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

God said that He did not create the earth a waste land and void, it became that way when God shook it.

Jeremiah 4:24 "I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly."

Imagine all the hills and mountains around this earth moving in one massive earthquake.

Jeremiah 4:25 "I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled."

There was no man, because He destroyed every being on the face of the earth. God destroyed all the birds, and creatures along with man. This is not talking about the flood of Noah, for with the flood of Noah, not only was eight Adamic souls saved but two souls from each race, as well as two of all the animals. Even the Kenites, the sons of Cain came through the flood.

Genesis 6:18 "But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shall come into the ark, thou and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee."

Genesis 6:19 "And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female."

Genesis 6:20 "Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive."

When we look at the plates of the land masses of the earth, it is obvious that there has been a shaking that took place. When Satan fell in that first earth age, there was a flood and destruction that left nothing alive to survive into this earth age. When Noah's flood came God was careful to preserve all flesh, and to take two of every kind aboard the ark. Not only are the animals and birds flesh, but all the races were flesh also, including the Kenites, those sons of Cain.

Jeremiah 4:26 "I beheld, and lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by His fierce anger."

God destroyed all their cities, as well as every man and beast of the field. Did you notice that there were ancient cities in that first earth age. The bible does not disagree that the overthrow took place, and that this earth is millions of years old. However most Bible teachers today say that this earth is only 6,000 years old. Remember what God called those people? Stupid! They can't read the manuscripts, and open their eyes to the evidence around them, and see the truths that God has spoken in His Word.

They like to argue a point in stupidity, and desire to stay away from II Peter 3, where Peter makes it clear that there are three earth ages. They can only understand what sits right before their eyes, and taught in their traditions. Friend, there are many sites scattered all around the earth where there is physical evidence of creatures that existed that are just not in existence today. If the earth is only six thousand years old, why do we have the skeleton remains of so many creatures that roamed the earth far before flesh man was created?

Have you never read the story of the "behemoth" in Job 40:15-19. It is the story of the dinosaurs that roamed the earth millions of years ago, that ate grass like the ox, and had the strength of a cedar tree in his tail. God made this earth to be inhabited, but Satan rebelled and God destroyed the planet.

So many say, why can't we find flesh remains of those men and women that existed then? We are living in the flesh age of man that is common only to this earth age. At the sounding of the seventh and last trumpet, at the coming of the Lord, all flesh will be changed then also, as Paul states in I Corinthians 15:51,-52. "Behold I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed," [51] "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." [52]

This time is not very far off when all flesh bodies will take on the form of their incorruptible bodies, and the elect of God will also take on their immortality into that incorruptible at that time also. All souls will be in their spiritual bodies then.

Jeremiah 4:27 "For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end."

God is saying that in the end, He will still have a remnant that He will protect. The earth will be rejuvinated at His coming, and it will be a perfect place. When we move into that third Earth Age, that being the Millennium Age and after, there will be no Satan to disrrupt the earth. Science and our Father's Word go together beautifully. It is the minds of some people that like to distort and use personal assumptions that makes it confusing. The Christian world likes to make the Scriptures fit their traditions, while some evolutionists like to build assumptions into their theories that likewise are just as foolish, especially in the sight of what we see around us.

The reason that it is important to sound the alarm, and speak boldly, is your soul depends upon it. In love was it given by God, to shake you and wake you up to what is written in His Word.

 

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I am familiar with Drumheller. What I said about the prints uses that location as one of the proof.

Foot prints are one thing...but WHOLE Dinosaurs !!! Come on Core.
Drumheller has dug up hundreds of them hugs adults , small adults, babies, young ones, eggs ...pretty hard to fake millions of bones. And they are STILL fining them and digging them up. It was a whole colony.
 

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That's a false claim.
It's one thing to say . . .

The day of rest was never taken to be anything other than a 24 hour day, one of the 7 days of the week. And in the preceding 6 days, God created everything that was created in this creation.

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It's one thing to say . . .

The day of rest was never taken to be anything other than a 24 hour day, one of the 7 days of the week. And in the preceding 6 days, God created everything that was created in this creation.

Much love!
You totally missed what I said.

Verses one and two are not part of day one.

Add to that Isaiah said God never creates anything shapeless and void.
 

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It's one thing to say . . .

The day of rest was never taken to be anything other than a 24 hour day, one of the 7 days of the week. And in the preceding 6 days, God created everything that was created in this creation.

Much love!

Oh fun.
Something we differ on! :)

I believe strongly in a pre-earth...which because "without form and void".
( probably made so when Satan was cast down to the Earth!! )

The earth being much more than only 6000 yrs old.

"My dinosaurs" lived and walked here before- "without form and void"
...and God spoke this creation into being.

And that is where I 'sit', unless or until God would show me something else.

Not that I think we will, or cares what we 'think'...it is one of the secrets that He did not see important enough to our salvation, to reveal to us in His word!! LOL
 

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Foot prints are one thing...but WHOLE Dinosaurs !!! Come on Core.
Drumheller has dug up hundreds of them hugs adults , small adults, babies, young ones, eggs ...pretty hard to fake millions of bones. And they are STILL fining them and digging them up. It was a whole colony.

They are claiming the footprints prove dinosaurs and humans coexisted.

No one disputes the dinosaurs existed. The dispute is over when.

They proved the so-called dinosaur prints were not created at the same time the human footprints were made.
 
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