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It matters a lot.

They were never intended to be study Bibles.
My point is between the two Greek Texts, two different schools of thought have been generated and have been dispersed among the Protestant churches.
For 400 years, the Protestant churches have all read and studied from the KJV. So now we are to accept the "dumbed down" versions?

As for the KJV, my question is WHY was 2 Thes. 2:8 translated into the singular, when the Textus Receptus Greek was clearly in the plural?

To me, it's as plain as day light. The translators wanted to substantiate that the Pope was "THE Antichrist, thereby supporting "a just cause" for the PR.
I must say, It's carried on very well, these past 400 years. But still not one iota of proof is available for PROVING that the Pope is "THE" AC, even though the W/H Greek "paints" a more colorful picture!
WHY?
Ans. There is no such thing as a singular, world leader called "THE" Antichrist. But, now that W/H have done such a fine job with their "paint by numbers" art work, you all are swallowing the "strong delusion" hook, line and sinker.
 

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If so many are reading that to be singular, as being one man, is that THE lie that many shall believe??
No that is NOT the lie they will believe. All your convoluted analysis of 2 Thess 2:8 makes no difference. And the only difference between the critical texts (which I reject) and the Received Text is that after "Lord" they have inserted "Jesus" and changed ἀναλώσει (consume) to ἀνελεῖ (slay).

Revelation 13 and many other passages make it perfectly clear that the Antichrist is indeed one man, and not the same as Satan. The lie that will be believed under strong delusion is that he will be accepted as the true Messiah and God. He will be worshipped along with Satan.
 

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No that is NOT the lie they will believe. All your convoluted analysis of 2 Thess 2:8 makes no difference. And the only difference between the critical texts (which I reject) and the Received Text is that after "Lord" they have inserted "Jesus" and changed ἀναλώσει (consume) to ἀνελεῖ (slay).

Revelation 13 and many other passages make it perfectly clear that the Antichrist is indeed one man, and not the same as Satan. The lie that will be believed under strong delusion is that he will be accepted as the true Messiah and God. He will be worshipped along with Satan.
100% Comic book fantasy, by WH Comics.

You all are so splintered and divided by those many bible versions, you will all be shocked to wake up one morning, trying to figure how it was that you got the MoB, when all you did was spend a little of that free government money (UBI), that was digitally deposited into your bank account.
"THE" Antichrist is coming? Ha Ha Ha- Lol.
Wrong! Jesus is coming....suddenly, and you all will be looking in another direction!
 

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The TR was written by the Catholic priest Erasmus in the early 1500s.

So you're singing the praises of a Catholic Bible.

The simple fact that the second coming not all the wicked are destroyed. Only those who took the mark of the beast.
Nope! ALL will take the mark, except for the Born Again Christians!
 

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My point is between the two Greek Texts, two different schools of thought have been generated and have been dispersed among the Protestant churches.
For 400 years, the Protestant churches have all read and studied from the KJV. So now we are to accept the "dumbed down" versions?

As for the KJV, my question is WHY was 2 Thes. 2:8 translated into the singular, when the Textus Receptus Greek was clearly in the plural?

To me, it's as plain as day light. The translators wanted to substantiate that the Pope was "THE Antichrist, thereby supporting "a just cause" for the PR.
I must say, It's carried on very well, these past 400 years. But still not one iota of proof is available for PROVING that the Pope is "THE" AC, even though the W/H Greek "paints" a more colorful picture!
WHY?
Ans. There is no such thing as a singular, world leader called "THE" Antichrist. But, now that W/H have done such a fine job with their "paint by numbers" art work, you all are swallowing the "strong delusion" hook, line and sinker.
You do realize there are other English translation centuries older than the KJV I hope. So your claim of the Protestant churches only using the KJV is false.

It did not come into dominance for a long time after 1611.

But you refused to watching the videos so you argue from silence.

The Scriptures are quite clear, the AC is a man.
 

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It does not say that and there will be no church during the tribulation.

Very amillennial of you.
Rev. 13[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Did you know that in the KJV, it never says "THE" tribulation?

But it does say "out of great tribulation", which can and does apply to every generation since Christ Ascended.

Yes, it is!
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You do realize there are other English translation centuries older than the KJV I hope. So your claim of the Protestant churches only using the KJV is false.

It did not come into dominance for a long time after 1611.

But you refused to watching the videos so you argue from silence.

The Scriptures are quite clear, the AC is a man.
In its printing, IT STILL IS "the Authorized version for all the churches.
 

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I think provided post, where I had an 8 translation NT. After using it in my studies for 10 years. I became so confused and frustrated, I tore it up (5 inches thick) and trashed it, so no one else would get it and wind up confused as I did.
Yep! It's the KJV for me all the way, these past 30+ years, and I have not a single regret for doing so!!
I can fully attest to the truth of Isa. 55:8-9 and John 16:13
 

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Rev. 13[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Did you know that in the KJV, it never says "THE" tribulation?

But it does say "out of great tribulation", which can and does apply to every generation since Christ Ascended.

Yes, it is!
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I don't use the KJV.
 

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No that is NOT the lie they will believe. All your convoluted analysis of 2 Thess 2:8 makes no difference. And the only difference between the critical texts (which I reject) and the Received Text is that after "Lord" they have inserted "Jesus" and changed ἀναλώσει (consume) to ἀνελεῖ (slay).

Revelation 13 and many other passages make it perfectly clear that the Antichrist is indeed one man, and not the same as Satan. The lie that will be believed under strong delusion is that he will be accepted as the true Messiah and God. He will be worshipped along with Satan.
You have a vain understanding of what constitutes the "religion" that satan shall involve the whole world with.
Your understanding of "Religion", is to hold to a concept, having to do with worshiping God. Satan does not worship God, but he does worship something else, himself and the only home he has. It's called planet earth, and he will protect and defend it, with every unsaved person right to the end. Rev. 19:19.
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Do you recycle? Do you go green"? Are you concerned about "global warming"? Do you refrain from "illegal dumping"? Do you bury "Hazardous
Material" in your back yard?
Do you promote "Save The Planet" ?
Of course you do!! You wouldn't say otherwise, in public!
"Save the Planet" is now the One World "Religion".

Satan is an Athiest in his own right, and has nothing lose, except himself and his only home, this planet.
 

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Correction:
Then you have no idea, no clue of how "six hundred three score and six" (Rev. 13:18) relates to 1 Kings 10:14, because Wescott and Hort can't get you there.
 

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You have a vain understanding of what constitutes the "religion" that satan shall involve the whole world with.
Your understanding of "Religion", is to hold to a concept, having to do with worshiping God. Satan does not worship God, but he does worship something else, himself and the only home he has. It's called planet earth, and he will protect and defend it, with every unsaved person right to the end. Rev. 19:19.
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Do you recycle? Do you go green"? Are you concerned about "global warming"? Do you refrain from "illegal dumping"? Do you bury "Hazardous
Material" in your back yard?
Do you promote "Save The Planet" ?
Of course you do!! You wouldn't say otherwise, in public!
"Save the Planet" is now the One World "Religion".

Satan is an Athiest in his own right, and has nothing lose, except himself and his only home, this planet.
The religion of the tribulation Emperor worship, the AC.

That is a tool Satan he uses to try to overthrow God and take his throne or at least take the earth away from him and wrote for himself.

As far as atheism goes, it is by definition and law a religion.
 

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And here we go again with the KJV and amillennialist sales pitch.
No sales pitch, just truth!
Everyone has used the numerical expression of "666" in every way possible, but never once learning, that it is the written form of that number, that is important. Why?
Ans. Rev. 13:18 is only a reference to 1 Kings 10:14.
It is in that scripture, by comparing the words of Rev. 13:18 to 1 Kings 10:14, one will find understanding.
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Unfortunately, everyone uses the numerical "666" , even the unsaved. By using it THAT way, all anyone will ever envision, is the literal number of "666" being stamped on their hand. And of course, every bible generated from the WH Greek, is numerical.
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But, if you listen to the words of KJV Rev. 13:18, by the Lord's Holy Spirit, He will show you how the words are the key to the reference of 1 Kings. 10:14.
So then, let's get to it!
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Rev. 13[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Where is wisdom?
Ans. In the word of God.
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Who hath understanding of God's words?
Ans. All who are born again of His Holy Spirit.
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What is a beast in Bible prophecy?
Ans. A world ruling Empire.
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Count what number?
Ans. "Six hundred, threescore and six".
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What man?
Ans. A wise man, found only in the word of God.
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Which wise man had that number?
Ans. The wise man named Solomon.
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What did Solomon's number have to do with?
Ans. Gold
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How is gold relative to us, today?
Ans. Money, cash, fiat currency, electronic transfers,
Digitized money.
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What are we to learn about Solomon's "six hundred, threescore and six talents" of Gold?
Ans. By the Queen (government) of Sheeba, Solomon was FREELY GIVEN (allotted) a specific amount of gold IN ONE YEAR.
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Question: What is "Universal Basic Income"?


 

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1. The religion of the tribulation Emperor worship, the AC.
2. That is a tool Satan he uses to try to overthrow God and take his throne
3. or at least take the earth away from him and wrote for himself.
4. As far as atheism goes, it is by definition and law a religion.
1. Regurgitated religious slop, spoon fed to the masses by religious false teachers!

2. Impossible! That happened a very long time ago. Jesus said that He SAW satan, as lightning fall from Heaven.

3. By default, through Adam and Eve's fall, satan became the ruler of this world. He said so to Jesus, and Jesus did not dispute it.

4. Yes, atheism is a religion, and it's "form of worship" is to "Save The Planet" .
Green and Atheist: The Incompatibility of Religion and Environmentalism | HuffPost
Did you really think that the UN believes in Jesus?? Lol.
 

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How many professing christians here, believe that we are to "Save The Planet"?
If you say "Yes", did you know that such a thought or idea is directly opposed to your belief in Christ?
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If you say "No", then you do know that when Jesus returns, in Eternal, ALL consuming, flaming fire, the entire surface of this planet will be "the LAKE of fire".
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As a professing Christian, do you agree with the following scripture:
KJV- 2 Peter 2:3-13
[12] Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
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> Are YOU "hasting unto" the Day of God, or are you hoping that it doesn't happen in your lifetime?
Why or why not?