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The Aggressive Intentions of the Papacy

Summary: The historian Ranke says thisabout Protestant-Catholic relations: "In the year 1617, everything betokened a decisive conflict between them. The Catholic party appears to have felt itself the superior. At all events it was the first to take up arms."


Many Americans would be surprised to learn that one of the greatest opponents of civil and religious liberty is the Roman Catholic Church.

No one knows about the Roman Catholic hatred of liberty because history textbooks in public schools and colleges have been, for the most part, purged of nearly all things negative about papal Rome’s bloody history. Many Jesuits and other supporters of Catholicism have allegedly joined textbook selection committees in order to censor negative comments about the Roman Catholic Church. Encyclopedias in the USA have also been affected. History has been rewritten so that less and less people know about the true issues that faced the reformers and the true history of the Catholic Church.

Darryl Eberhart of Tackling the Tough Topics newsletter writes this:

Most of our encyclopedias and history textbooks do NOT tell us that the purposeof the attempted invasion of England in 1588 by the Spanish Armada was to land troops in England to be joined by local Roman Catholics in an effort to overthrow the government and bring England, by force, back under the authority of Papal Rome! The Roman Catholic King of Spain (Philip II) wanted financial “compensation” for launching this invasion. And so the Roman pontiff, Pope Sixtus V, promised King Philip II 200,000 crowns as soon as the Spanish Armada had set sail for England, and more cash to follow later. Thus the Papacy was helping to fund the planned invasion of England.

In 1931, Pope Pius XI explained this initiative in his encyclical Quadragesimo Anno:

Under the guidance and in light of Leo’s encyclical was thus evolved a truly Christian social science, which continues to be fostered and enriched daily by the tireless labours of those picked menwhom we have named the auxiliaries of the Church...The doctrine of Rerum Novarum began little by little to penetrate among those who, being outside Catholic unity, do not recognize the authority of the Church; and these Catholic principles of sociology gradually became part of the intellectual heritage of the whole human race...Thus too, we rejoice that the Catholic truths proclaimed so vigorously by our illustrious Predecessor [Leo XIII in 1891’s Rerum Novarum], are advanced and advocated not merely in non-Catholic books and journals, but frequently also in legislative assemblies and in courts of justice” (emphasis added).ii

Here are several quotes highlighting the Papacy's aggressive intentions:

Catholic Professor Orestes Brownson, Brownson’s Review (January, 1854): 90:

But is it the intention of the pope to possess this country? Undoubtedly. In this intention is he aided by the Jesuits and all the Catholic prelates and priests? Undoubtedly, if they are faithful to their religion.iii

Hector MacPherson, The Jesuits in History(Edinburgh: Macniven and Wallace, 1914): 52, 85, 100:

...that the Jesuits were actively plotting for the extermination of Protestantism was no fiction of Oates, but a most certain and deadly fact...

At the Reformation the Irish race remained Romanist; and the miseries which came upon it must be in the main traced to the Jesuits, who used Ireland as a factor in their scheme of overthrowing the Protestantism of England and establishing a Roman Catholic dynasty completely under the control of the Papacy.

...wherever the Jesuits went, they placed the worldly prosperity and the political influence of their Order above all religious considerations. In accordance with their secret policy they set themselves to gain influence at Court; and, in order to carry their point, they were willing to countenance assassination, sedition, etc.

Pope John Paul II, in his apostolic letter Ad Tuendam Fidem (May 18, 1998), made bold statements about the need for submission to the Pope on doctrinal issues. He declared that lack of submission was worthy of punishment:

Whoever denies or places in doubt any truth that must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or repudiates the Christian faith as a whole, and does not come to his senses after having been legitimately warned, is to be punished as a heretic...whoever obstinately rejects a teaching that the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops, exercising the authentic Magisterium, have set forth to be held definitively, or who affirms what they have condemned as erroneous, and does not retract after having been legitimately warned, is to be punished with an appropriate penalty.

One of the doctrinal issues the Papacy demands submission on is the keeping of Sunday. Pope John Paul II said this, in agreement with Ad Tuendam Fidem:

A person who violates the sanctity of Sunday is to be punished as a heretic.iv

Pope Nicholas I in a letter to the King of Bulgaria in 860 AD:

I glorify you for having maintained your authority by putting to death those wandering sheep who refused to enter the fold; and you not only have not sinned, by showing a holy rigour, but I even congratulate you on having opened the kingdom of heaven to the people submitted to your rule. A king need not fear to command massacres, when these will retain his subjects in obedience, or cause them to submit to the faith of Christ; and God will reward him in this world, and in eternal life, for these murders.

Pope Urban II's address in Clermont, France in November 1095:

If you must have blood, bathe in the blood of infidels. Soldiers of hell, become soldiers of the living God!

Pope Leo VIII, Immortale Dei (November 1, 1885):

The unrestrained freedom of thinking and of openly making known one’s thoughts is not inherent in the rights of citizens and is by no means worthy of favor and support (emphasis added).
 
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Pope Pius IX, Quanta Cura (December 8, 1864):

Which false and perverse opinions [of democracy and individual freedom] are on that ground the more to be detested, because they chiefly tend to this, that that salutary influence be impeded and (even) removed, which the Catholic Church, according to the institution and command of her Divine Author, should freely exercise even to the end of the world -- not only over private individuals, but over nations, peoples, and their sovereign princes; and (tend also) to take away that mutual fellowship and concord of counsels between Church and State which has ever proved itself propitious and salutary, both for religious and civil interests...

From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster that erroneous opinion, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our Predecessor, Gregory XVI, an "insanity,"2 viz., that "liberty of conscience and worship is each man's personal right, which ought to be legally proclaimed and asserted in every rightly constituted society; and that a right resides in the citizens to an absolute liberty, which should be restrained by no authority whether ecclesiastical or civil, whereby they may be able openly and publicly to manifest and declare any of their ideas whatever, either by word of mouth, by the press, or in any other way (emphasis added).

The Syllabus of Errors Condemned by Pope Pius IX (December 8, 1864) lists several statements that the Pope called erroneous. Here are a few statements condemned by Pope Pius IX:

15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true.

24. The Church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect.

77. In the present day it is no longer expedient that the Catholic religion should be held as the only religion of the State, to the exclusion of all other forms of worship.

The English Roman Catholic newspaper The Rambler (September 1852):

Shall I hold out hopes to the Protestant that I will not meddle with his creed, if he will not meddle with mine? Shall I lead him to think that religion is a matter for private opinion, and tempt him to forget that he has no more right to his religious views than he has to my purse, or my house, or my life blood? No! Catholicism is the most intolerant of creeds. It is intolerance itself, for it is the truth itself. We might as rationally maintain that two and two does not make four as the theory of Religious Liberty. Its impiety is only equaled by its absurdity.”

Catholic World (August 1871): 735:

We do not accept it [i.e., the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America], or hold it to be any government at all…If the American Republic is to be sustained and preserved at all, it must be by the rejection of the principle of the [Protestant] Reformation, and the acceptance of the Catholic principle...

"Faith," The Catechism of the Catholic Church (Liguori Publications, 1994): 507:

Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same;.... schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion wiht the members of the Church subject to him.

Civilta Cattolica (House organ of the Jesuits):

Fascism is the regime that corresponds most closely to the concepts of the Church of Rome.
 
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Western Watchman (A Roman Catholic publication out of St. Louis):

The [Roman Catholic] church has persecuted. Only a tyro [i.e., novice] in church history will deny that…one hundred and fifty years after [Roman Emperor] Constantine, the Donatists were persecuted and sometimes put to death…Protestants were persecuted in France and Spain with the full approval of the [Roman Catholic] church authorities…When she [i.e., the Roman Catholic Church] thinks it good to use physical force, she will use it.”

Protestantism is not a religion...never was a religion. The most that could be said about it was that it was a form of rape and robbery masquerading as a religion.

Have not the popes publicly and repeatedly anathematized the sacred principle of Liberty of Conscience? Have they not boldly said, in the teeth of the nations of Europe, that Liberty of Conscience must be destroyed – killed at any cost? Has not the whole world heard the sentence of death to liberty coming from the lips of the old man of the Vatican?”

Catholic Encyclopedia volume 14 (1911): 767-768:

There is no graver offense than heresy... and therefore it must be rooted out with fire and sword.

David Hunt, A Woman Rides the Beast (Harvest House, 1994): 126:

The Constitution of the United States was condemned by the Papacy because it separated church and state and prohibited the establishment of any religion by the government. The popes, on the other hand, had long required governments to make Roman Catholicism the official religion and to prohibit the practice of any other.

Dr. William P. Grady:

During a sermon in 1850, [Roman Catholic] Archbishop John Hughes of New York, the nation’s leading Vatican spokesman, acknowledged that a conspiracy to subjugate free America did exist after all. The Catholic press was ecstatic. An excerpt from ‘Shepherd of the Valley’, the official journal of the [Roman Catholic] Bishop of St. Louis, declared, ‘If Catholics ever gain a sufficient numerical majority in this country, religious freedom is at an end. So our enemies say, so we believe.’ [Catholic Archbishop] Hughes’ own paper, the ‘New York Freeman’ brazenly announced, ‘No man has a right to choose his religion.’

Bill Hughes, The Secret Terrorists (Truth Triumphant Ministries): 138:

For over 200 years, the goal [of the Jesuits] has been the complete destruction of the United States Constitution…In the religious arena, the goal of the Jesuits is to wipe out any trace of Protestantism and other religions, and to restore worldwide domination by the pope.

Darryl Eberhart, "The Papacy's Hatred of Liberty," Tackling the Tough Topics:

...the Papacy, despite its “ecumenical rhetoric”, has not changed a bit over the many centuries in the following categories:

* Its deep hatred of Jews, all independent Bible-believing Christians, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians (as recently as the 1940s we find Roman Catholic Ustashi military units in Croatia, led and urged on by Franciscan priests, monks, and friars, slaughtering from 600,000 to one million innocent Serb Orthodox Christian men, women, elderly, and children – many of the victims being first brutally tortured);
* Its long-held dream to bring all Christians under its monopolistic, totalitarian, ecclesiastical control;
* Its long-held dream to head up a totalitarian one-world religious organization; and,
* Its long-held dream to bring all world leaders – especially those in “Christian” countries – under the temporal power of the pope.

Charles Chiniquy, a Catholic priest who turned to Protestantism, warns America about these aggressive intentions of the Papacy:

Those bloody and anti-social laws of Rome, after having covered Europe with ruins, tears and blood, for ten centuries, have crossed the oceans to continue their work of slavery and desolation, blood and tears, ignorance and demoralization, on this continent. Under the mask and name of Democracy, they have raised the standard of rebellion of the South against the North, and caused more than a half million of the most heroic sons of America to fall on the fields of carnage.

In a very near future, if God does not miraculously prevent it, those laws of dark deeds and blood will cause the prosperity, the rights, the education, and the liberties of this too confident nation, to be buried under a mountain of smoking and bloody ruins. On the top of that mountain, Rome will raise her throne and plant her victorious banners.

Then she will sing her Te Deums and shout her shouts of joy, as she did, when she heard the lamentations and cries of desolation of the millions of martyrs burning in the five thousand auto-da-fes she had raised in all the capitals and great cities of Europe.v
 

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Both Islam and the RCC will be no more in the last days.
Islam will be destroyed and discredited in the Day of the Lord's wrath. Ezekiel 35:6-9, Psalms 83, Psalms 11:4-6

The RCC will be destroyed by the Anti-Christ, Revelation 17:15-18, and he will impose worship to himself, or you will be killed. Revelation 13:8
 
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Who is more dangerous? Islam, or Catholicism?
For the present, Islam is definitely more dangerous. Radical Islam has declared war on the West, Christians, and Jews. But this is *asymmetric warfare*, and the West is too stupid to see that. Terrorists are being allowed to use the criminal justice system to their own advantage. That is why Omar Khadr was awarded millions of dollars, and others simply receive a slap on the wrist.
 
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I don't wish to offend anyone, just asking if @brakelite could help me with a "quote" I ran across.
"You know that I am the Holy Father, the representative of God on earth, the Vicar of Christ, which means that I am God on the earth.” – Pope Pius XI April 30,1922

Doing searches, it comes up but never the source. If this is so, wouldn't you say the son of perdition has been exposed.

Do all our bibles come from them in one way or another? It gives me much sorrow. :(
Will this only be prophetic if they move the Vatican to Jeruselem?

My studies have led me across a few places that claim they were directly involved with creating the Islam religion.. so 2 false witnisses?
 
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Both Islam and the RCC will be no more in the last days.
Islam will be destroyed and discredited in the Day of the Lord's wrath. Ezekiel 35:6-9, Psalms 83, Psalms 11:4-6

The RCC will be destroyed by the Anti-Christ, Revelation 17:15-18, and he will impose worship to himself, or you will be killed. Revelation 13:8
Not likely, since the papacy (union of church and state) is the Antichrist of Scripture. "Anti-" means "in place of", "instead of", "in behalf of", "for".

The papacy has long boasted that the popes and priests are "another Christ" and "stand in place of Christ" and claim all titles, attributes, prerogatives, names, etc. of Christ as their own. The handbook "Dignities and Duties of the Priest" says at the magic moment when by uttering "this is my body, this is my blood" in Latin during the Eucharist, the priest becomes "the creator of the Creator" by transubstantiating the bread and wine into Christ's body and blood.

When men began saying what I'm saying here way back in the 1500s, the Jesuits came up with the idea of a "future Antichrist" and over the last 100 years, the idea began replacing Protestant teaching until now Protestants everywhere are looking to the future for the rise of some evil Antichrist man LOL
 
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Who is more dangerous? Islam, or Catholicism?

What an EASY question!

People who slander Catholics are more dangerous, because a LOT of people under Islam don't know any better. But "christians" (small "c") who hate (murder) their fellow Christians are spiritually bankrupt. And THAT makes THEM more DANGEROUS than either Islam or Catholicism.


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Who is more dangerous? Islam, or Catholicism?

How about , not which one...but BOTH?

My grandfather was born in 1899, and as a young man he joined a "social club" called the Klu Klux Klan. And in South Dakota there didn't have any blacks and very few Jews to pick on so they picked on the Catholics.

These same types of people are in the "church" parading as "christians" (small "c"), but we know they're not Christians (capital "C"). And while they HATE (murder) their fellow christians, some of that bias creeps into "bible prophecy" (small "b", small "p") where the Catholic Church is supposed to be an evil co-conspirator with satan.

But I understand Bible Prophecy (capital "B", capital "P") well enough to know that FALSE doctrines come from the chief liar and his minions, -- among which includes the FALSE assertions that the Catholic Church is this evil co-conspirator.

And to be perfectly clear, -- I'm not a Catholic, and don't agree with many of their doctrines and practices --, but I also don't agree with many of the Protestant doctrines and practices. The ONLY doctrines and practices I follow are from Scripture, -- not men.


So who can divest themselves from the KKK mentality, and exhort and encourage BOTH Catholics and Protestants to LEARN about and TRULY FOLLOW Jesus?


Not too many I suspect ...
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"You know that I am the Holy Father, the representative of God on earth, the Vicar of Christ, which means that I am God on the earth.” – Pope Pius XI April 30,1922

Doing searches, it comes up but never the source. If this is so, wouldn't you say the son of perdition has been exposed.
YES!! And that is the point of my posting this. The modern Protestant church and its numerous offshoots is to all intents and purposes, no longer Protestant because she has abandoned this truth which all reformers agreed to in favour of the Jesuit inspired future antichrist to which no scripture attests to once Rome meets all the criteria.

Do all our bibles come from them in one way or another? It gives me much sorrow. :(
Will this only be prophetic if they move the Vatican to Jerusalem?
As far as moving to Jerusalem, not necessary. Nowhere in prophetic scripture is there any requirement of the Antichrist to rule from Jerusalem. This is an assumption built on the false premise of a future temple being essential for the Antichrist to sit in. But if the RCC is the Antichrist which this writer affirms, is he therefore not already sitting in the temple of God (His church) proclaiming that he himself is god?
As far as the Bible is concerned, certainly there has been a great deal of Catholic influence in its translation and promulgation...some good, most bad. There is a great book written by B G Wilkinson entitled Authorised Bible Vindicated available for free online in PDF form at several sites. Let me know if you have trouble finding it.
 

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Admittedly, I know next to nothing about Catholicism, so I can't comment on any dangerous aspect of Catholicism, but Islam is quite dangerous nowadays. With that said, I'm not going to label all Muslims as dangerous - that would make me no different than militant atheists who consider all Christians to be dangerous.

To present an example, there is a cashier at our local grocery store who is Muslim. She wears her head covering and dressed modestly as you see any other Muslim woman. I've seen her get treated quite badly at the grocery store, and people have called her a terrorist and worse. She's the friendliest cashier there, and is quite courteous. When we had a food drive there for a Christian-based homeless mission, she was actually our biggest food contributor and thanked us for being part of a great cause. So they're not all dangerous, but the extremists in the Islam faith are the problem.
 
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What an EASY question!

People who slander Catholics are more dangerous, because a LOT of people under Islam don't know any better. But "christians" (small "c") who hate (murder) their fellow Christians are spiritually bankrupt. And THAT makes THEM more DANGEROUS than either Islam or Catholicism.


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  • 1500 years of persecution against both Christians and non-Christians alike;
  • proud arrogance and claims to divinity by her leaders;
  • the use of state sponsored armies to enforce her decrees and dogmas, invade foreign territories, usurp legally established power and authority in foreign lands, assassinate foreign dignitaries and rulers;
  • claims to governance over the entire planet in both civil and religious matters;
  • direct and indirect involvement in the destruction of entire peoples and nations;
  • the murder of millions of innocent men, women, and children throughout the world whose crimes consisted of nothing more than refusal to surrender to Papal authority;
and numerous other reasons all testify against your claim to 'slander' and 'dangerous' as being a descriptive of anyone who may choose to publish and teach this history. And the above doesn't even scratch the surface of the evils and monstrous crimes perpetrated against the people of the world by this institution. Hateful? YES!! Absolutely. And why not? Even God Himself hates the wickedness of religious persecution and torture and killing that goes on in His name...but that hatred is directed against the actions of the church...not the people who belong to it. In fact I have detected far more personal animosity in your posts to those you disagree with than in any of my posts which seek to expose the crimes and wickedness of Papal despotism.
While Islam is indeed dangerous, at least it is in your face for all to see. Catholic tyranny has been expunged from our history books...her purposes hidden under layers of religious ritual and socialist agendas...her fascism evident only with those with eyes to see and ears to hear. For that reason far more dangerous. And I haven't even touched on the dangers to our spiritual health through acceptance of her teachings, doctrines, and dogmas.
 
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... I have detected far more personal animosity in your posts to those you disagree with than in any of my posts ...

Could it be that FALSE PROPHETS have no place in the kingdom of heaven? They didn't in Jeremiah's day, and that still don't, -- including you! :)

Jeremiah 1:17 But you, gird up your loins; arise, and say to them everything that I command you. Do not be dismayed by them, lest I dismay you before them. 18 And I, behold, I make you this day a fortified city, an iron pillar, and bronze walls, against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, its princes, its priests, and the people of the land. 19 They will fight against you; but they shall not prevail against you, for I am with you, says the Lord, to deliver you.”

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Could it be that FALSE PROPHETS have no place in the kingdom of heaven? They didn't in Jeremiah's day, and that still don't, -- including you! :)

Jeremiah 1:17 But you, gird up your loins; arise, and say to them everything that I command you. Do not be dismayed by them, lest I dismay you before them. 18 And I, behold, I make you this day a fortified city, an iron pillar, and bronze walls, against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, its princes, its priests, and the people of the land. 19 They will fight against you; but they shall not prevail against you, for I am with you, says the Lord, to deliver you.”

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I haven't laid claim to being any kind of prophet, real or false. I simply laid open an expose of real history no longer taught in schools or in most churches, much to the shame of our current religious leaders. I also made and observation regarding your own personal behaviour in this forum...naturally you don't like it...tough. I will let others judge whether my observation is accurate or not. But prophet? Nah, I am no prophet, false or otherwise.
 

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So they're not all dangerous, but the extremists in the Islam faith are the problem.
If you would study the Quran, you would note that the so-called Islamic *extremists* are actually following the Quran, but the so-called *moderates* are deemed to be apostates of Islam. Anyhow, this article below should open some eyes:

June 7, 2019
Islam's War on the Christian Cross
By Raymond Ibrahim
A Muslim migrant in Rome recently stabbed a Christian man in the throat for wearing a crucifix around his neck. The assailant, a 37-year-old Moroccan, is accused of attempted homicide; “religious hate” is cited as an “aggravating factor” in the crime.

This is hardly the first “religious hate” crime to occur in the context of the cross in Italy. Among others,

What is it about the crucifix that makes some Muslims react violently? Islamic hostility to the cross is an unwavering phenomenon -- one that crosses continents and centuries; one that is very much indicative of Islam’s innate hostility to Christianity.

For starters, not only is the cross the quintessential symbol of Christianity -- for all denominations, including most forms of otherwise iconoclastic Protestantism -- but it symbolizes the fundamental disagreement between Christians and Muslims. As Professor Sidney Griffith explains, “The cross and the icons publicly declared those very points of Christian faith which the Koran, in the Muslim view, explicitly denied: that Christ was the Son of God and that he died on the cross.” Accordingly, “the Christian practice of venerating the cross… often aroused the disdain of Muslims,” so that from the start of the Muslim conquests of Christian lands there was an ongoing “campaign to erase the public symbols of Christianity, especially the previously ubiquitous sign of the cross.”

This “campaign” traces back to the Muslim prophet Muhammad. He reportedly “had such a repugnance to the form of the cross that he broke everything brought into his house with its figure upon it,” wrote one historian (Sword and Scimitar, p. 10). Muhammad also claimed that at the end times Jesus (the Muslim ‘Isa) himself would make it a point to “break the cross.”

Modern-day Muslim clerics confirm this. When asked about Islam’s ruling on whether any person -- in this case, Christians -- is permitted to wear or pray before the cross, Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tarifi, a Saudi expert on Islamic law, said, “Under no circumstances is a human permitted to wear the cross” nor “is anyone permitted to pray to the cross.” Why? “Because the prophet -- peace and blessings on him -- commanded the breaking of it [the cross].”

Islamic history is a reflection of these sentiments. For instance, the aforementioned Sheikh al-Tarifi also explained that if it is too difficult to break the cross -- for instance, a large concrete statue -- Muslims should at least try to disfigure one of its four arms “so that it no longer resembles a cross.” Historic and numismatic evidence confirms that, after the Umayyad caliphate seized the Byzantine treasury in the late seventh century, it ordered that one or two arms of the cross on the coins be effaced so that the image no longer resembled a crucifix (Sword and Scimitar, p. 54).

Testimonies from the very earliest invasions into Christian Syria and Egypt of Muslims systematically breaking every crucifix they encountered abound. According to Anastasius of Sinai, who lived during the seventh century Arab conquests, “the demons name the Saracens [Arabs/Muslims] as their companions. And it is with reason. The latter are perhaps even worse than the demons,” for whereas “the demons are frequently much afraid of the mysteries of Christ,” among which he mentions the cross, “these demons of flesh trample all that under their feet, mock it, set fire to it, destroy it” (Sword and Scimitar, p. 27)....


The jihad on the cross began with Muhammad, was carried out by early caliphs, and continues to this day by jihadis of the world, not to mention the occasional “everyday” Muslim.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/islams_war_on_the_christian_cross.html
 

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What an EASY question!

People who slander Catholics are more dangerous, because a LOT of people under Islam don't know any better. But "christians" (small "c") who hate (murder) their fellow Christians are spiritually bankrupt. And THAT makes THEM more DANGEROUS than either Islam or Catholicism.


Bobby Jo
Hi, Bobbi Jo, was Jesus demonstrating Himself as "spiritually bankrupt" when He called out the Jews of His day as "hypocrites" and "thieves" and "of your father the devil" and "fools" and "children of hell" and "blind" and "blind guides" and "extortioners" and "serpents" and "vipers" and "killers of prophets", etc.?

In all actuality, what Jesus did isn't even the same as what we Protestant Historicists do, because -- if your reading comprehension skills hadn't taken a backseat to your impatient desire to defend Catholicism and condemn those who criticize it as "murderers" -- you would have seen that the question is about "C-A-T-H-O-L-I-C-I-S-M, which is an ideology, not C-A-T-H-O-L-I-C-S, which are people.
 

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If you would study the Quran, you would note that the so-called Islamic *extremists* are actually following the Quran, but the so-called *moderates* are deemed to be apostates of Islam. Anyhow, this article below should open some eyes:

June 7, 2019
Islam's War on the Christian Cross
By Raymond Ibrahim
A Muslim migrant in Rome recently stabbed a Christian man in the throat for wearing a crucifix around his neck. The assailant, a 37-year-old Moroccan, is accused of attempted homicide; “religious hate” is cited as an “aggravating factor” in the crime.

This is hardly the first “religious hate” crime to occur in the context of the cross in Italy. Among others,

What is it about the crucifix that makes some Muslims react violently? Islamic hostility to the cross is an unwavering phenomenon -- one that crosses continents and centuries; one that is very much indicative of Islam’s innate hostility to Christianity.

For starters, not only is the cross the quintessential symbol of Christianity -- for all denominations, including most forms of otherwise iconoclastic Protestantism -- but it symbolizes the fundamental disagreement between Christians and Muslims. As Professor Sidney Griffith explains, “The cross and the icons publicly declared those very points of Christian faith which the Koran, in the Muslim view, explicitly denied: that Christ was the Son of God and that he died on the cross.” Accordingly, “the Christian practice of venerating the cross… often aroused the disdain of Muslims,” so that from the start of the Muslim conquests of Christian lands there was an ongoing “campaign to erase the public symbols of Christianity, especially the previously ubiquitous sign of the cross.”

This “campaign” traces back to the Muslim prophet Muhammad. He reportedly “had such a repugnance to the form of the cross that he broke everything brought into his house with its figure upon it,” wrote one historian (Sword and Scimitar, p. 10). Muhammad also claimed that at the end times Jesus (the Muslim ‘Isa) himself would make it a point to “break the cross.”

Modern-day Muslim clerics confirm this. When asked about Islam’s ruling on whether any person -- in this case, Christians -- is permitted to wear or pray before the cross, Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tarifi, a Saudi expert on Islamic law, said, “Under no circumstances is a human permitted to wear the cross” nor “is anyone permitted to pray to the cross.” Why? “Because the prophet -- peace and blessings on him -- commanded the breaking of it [the cross].”

Islamic history is a reflection of these sentiments. For instance, the aforementioned Sheikh al-Tarifi also explained that if it is too difficult to break the cross -- for instance, a large concrete statue -- Muslims should at least try to disfigure one of its four arms “so that it no longer resembles a cross.” Historic and numismatic evidence confirms that, after the Umayyad caliphate seized the Byzantine treasury in the late seventh century, it ordered that one or two arms of the cross on the coins be effaced so that the image no longer resembled a crucifix (Sword and Scimitar, p. 54).

Testimonies from the very earliest invasions into Christian Syria and Egypt of Muslims systematically breaking every crucifix they encountered abound. According to Anastasius of Sinai, who lived during the seventh century Arab conquests, “the demons name the Saracens [Arabs/Muslims] as their companions. And it is with reason. The latter are perhaps even worse than the demons,” for whereas “the demons are frequently much afraid of the mysteries of Christ,” among which he mentions the cross, “these demons of flesh trample all that under their feet, mock it, set fire to it, destroy it” (Sword and Scimitar, p. 27)....


The jihad on the cross began with Muhammad, was carried out by early caliphs, and continues to this day by jihadis of the world, not to mention the occasional “everyday” Muslim.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/islams_war_on_the_christian_cross.html
Outward antagonism against the Cross is far less dangerous than the deception of pretended affinity for the Cross. The pope bears a weak, emaciated, defeated crucified Jesus on His shepherd's rod and is seated in front of an upside down Cross - which is conveniently claimed to represent Peter who according to tradition was crucified upside down - but is what Satanists use as a middle finger in the face of God.

What church is it that habitually draws the attention away from the perfection of Christ toward the flawed characters of others - whether His genuine or pretended servants in or outside Scripture? An absolutely false church, which is why she is depicted as such in prophecy.
 
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In fact I have detected far more personal animosity in your posts to those you disagree with than in any of my posts which seek to expose the crimes and wickedness of Papal despotism.
"Devil" means "slanderer" and slander is what he used to foment the war in heaven, right? His children have been using that tactic effectively throughout the ages to suppress the truth everywhere, and it seems today you can't look anywhere without someone accusing those who preach the truth as "hate mongers", "fascists", "racists", "xenophobes", etc.

The absolute worst response to it is to apologize - which only draws further criticism. The only recourse one has to these leftist snowflake Alinskianites is to keep standing firm on the truth, consequences be damned.
 
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