Failed Prophecies

[bbyrd009]

I did not "bluntly say certain people were not experts" -- you are being dishonest and twisting my words.

you even called them idiots, you idiot
I declare you at least temporarily too stupid to talk to

 

[tzcho2]

Ha you wanted attn now you got it pal. Bask in it bro. You're a regular Dr Deflecto lol

I twisted your words? I'm somehow mocking there?
No offense but are you on drugs or something?
which i realize how that reads, ok, i never ask ppl this in forums as a rule, as a put down i mean. I mean "are you on something ew that might be affecting your judgement?" I'm guessing you're on like, what, 6-8 Rx right now? It does happen ok, interactions and whatnot

Didn't i plainly inquire honestly, " are you saying?"
How completely full of...look, have a nice day ok, and sorry you got offended

Not interested bbyrd. Your posts speak for themselves.

 

[tzcho2]

you even called them idiots, you idiot
I declare you at least temporarily too stupid to talk to

There you are with your insults again.
Whom I referred to as idiots? anyone who says the world is ending on Tues for example , or who claims the rapture is going to be on this day or that day---that's who.
Idiot=fool
It is only a fool who claims to know what Jesus said even the Son didn't know the time or the hour.

Matt 24:36 "36 No one knows about that day or the hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but ONLY the FATHER. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will i
Acts 1:17
Jesus replied, "It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by His own authority.

 

[Willie T]

I wonder who it was who shelled out good money for those millions and millions and millions of books? And then bought some of the frauds second and third books when the original predictions turned out to be hoaxes. (And those books probably averaged about $20 apiece.)

 

[bbyrd009]

Not interested bbyrd. Your posts speak for themselves.

hey, just like Uranus!

 

[bbyrd009]

I wonder who it was who shelled out good money for those millions and millions and millions of books? And then bought some of the frauds second and third books when the original predictions turned out to be hoaxes. (And those books probably averaged about $20 apiece.)

my parents, unfort lol

 

[Laish]

I wonder who it was who shelled out good money for those millions and millions and millions of books? And then bought some of the frauds second and third books when the original predictions turned out to be hoaxes. (And those books probably averaged about $20 apiece.)

Probably folks we should pray for . Not ridicule or look down on . Note also many of those that published believed what they wrote many also were just out to make a buck . Their are all types out there . One thing they all had in common is they all went far beyond what basic dispensational theology teaches . Meaning they weren’t really as well versed in the theological beliefs they claimed to represent .
This is coming from a pseudo Amillennialist here . I don’t agree with dispensational theology still my brothers that do still have my respect.
Blessings
Bill

 

[Enoch111]

Probably folks we should pray for . Not ridicule or look down on . Note also many of those that published believed what they wrote many also were just out to make a buck . Their are all types out there . One thing they all had in common is they all went far beyond what basic dispensational theology teaches . Meaning they weren’t really as well versed in the theological beliefs they claimed to represent .
This is coming from a pseudo Amillennialist here . I don’t agree with dispensational theology still my brothers that do still have my respect.
Blessings
Bill

Well said brother Bill. Mocking others who hold to a different eschatology should be condemned. Proving from Scripture whether certain beliefs are true or false is another matter.

 

[Keraz]

I have noticed three things about those who are opponents of dispensational teaching. 1.) They a have burning hatred against them. 2.) They believe wrongly the motives of dispensationalists. 3.) They reject any explanation given them to correct their wrong view of the motive. Maybe I should add a fourth. 4.) They will deny the former three.

1/ We who oppose unbiblical and erroneous teachings, do it out of love and concern; NOT hate.
2/ Your motive is to 'escape' the trials and testing that we are plainly told; all must endure.
3/ The correct view is what the Bible actually says. Not anyone's private interpretations.
4/ It is those who believe false theories, that are in denial.

I find it hard to credit, that intelligent people are discussing scenarios of impossible things, as though they will actually take place.
Ideas like an instantaneous change into glorified bodies, before any trials and testing, let alone Judgment. A rapture to heaven of the Church is a fable that has consumed tons of paper and ink, still totally without any sure consensus of when it could happen.
All these issues have been argued, fought over even; for a hundred plus years. Doesn't this make people question the validity of those beliefs?

But what is most concerning, is the fact that the Prophetic Word does plainly tell us what God actually has planned for His people and the world in these last few years of the Church age.
That people are unable to comprehend those prophesies, is told us by Jesus in Matthew 11:25 and 1 Corinthians 3:18-20, where those learned, so called wise theologians and Bible experts, cannot understand these truths. Also in Isaiah 29:9-12, we are told that people who choose to believe false theories will be blinded to the truth and 2 Thessalonians 2:11 says that God will place those with closed minds under a compelling delusion, which makes them believe what is false.
Then: 2 Thess 2:12 So that all who have not believed the truth, but made falsehood their choice, may be brought to Judgment.

Fellow Christians, my aim and desire is for all of you and as many as I can reach, to be presented with the scriptural Truth; the undeniable facts of prophecy and a common sense, logical sequence of what will happen in the near future to all of us.

It is a message of hope and God's Promise of protection during a short time of difficulty, and then how He will mightily Bless His faithful people.

 

[Helen]

"I" say???
Your thread is just for the purpose of making a jab & for belittling those who believe in the rapture and dispensation.

I believe that you are the one who first brought the word rapture into this thread.

 

[Stranger]

Hi Stranger. Reading Matthew 24:29-31, kind of makes one ponder? Especially this line here: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..." As clear cut as that seems, I am still not settled on it. If anything I would say Mid Trib? I am not as good at the "dispensations" as, I do not believe I have ever ever heard the word itself until about a year ago...ON HERE!!! Lol. I know I have a ton to learn Stranger, and I am keeping my heart and mind as open as I am able to. I WANT to know the truth about all of it but, I've got a very long way to go. I just hope God keeps me alive long enough to be able to really KNOW His truth's. As far as the rapture, it's a conundrum! And, I cannot seem to get past the Matt 24 scripture. Also, wouldn't it make Jesus have a third return rather that just a second? Just my thoughts...for now

Well, explain how the Rapture makes Jesus have three returns. I don't see it.

Stranger

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

The reason why I and others believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture as well as some form of dispensationalism, is that it makes the most sense in terms of the whole of Scripture. It makes it possible to understand how some things that seem contradictory are really not. Mortal man is governed by time and, in fact, mankind may always be governed by time (the closing paragraphs of Revelation speak of "a new crop of fruit on the Tree of Life, every month").

 

[Helen]

Concerning “some people” , and those who derail a thread and continually bleat on , holding the thread hostage ... off topic ...
Dont forget ,the Ignore works. And it makes for a much more pleasant Site.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Well, explain how the Rapture makes Jesus have three returns. I don't see it.

Stranger

They think of the Rapture as a return, but His feet never touch the ground--we meet Him in the air--perhaps even in the upper atmosphere or further away. In that regard, if your friend says that he/she has to leave but will return shortly, and then he/she stops three blocks away and calls you to come meet him/her there, unlikely you would call it a "return".

 

[Stranger]

1/ We who oppose unbiblical and erroneous teachings, do it out of love and concern; NOT hate.
2/ Your motive is to 'escape' the trials and testing that we are plainly told; all must endure.
3/ The correct view is what the Bible actually says. Not anyone's private interpretations.
4/ It is those who believe false theories, that are in denial.

I find it hard to credit, that intelligent people are discussing scenarios of impossible things, as though they will actually take place.
Ideas like an instantaneous change into glorified bodies, before any trials and testing, let alone Judgment. A rapture to heaven of the Church is a fable that has consumed tons of paper and ink, still totally without any sure consensus of when it could happen.
All these issues have been argued, fought over even; for a hundred plus years. Doesn't this make people question the validity of those beliefs?

But what is most concerning, is the fact that the Prophetic Word does plainly tell us what God actually has planned for His people and the world in these last few years of the Church age.
That people are unable to comprehend those prophesies, is told us by Jesus in Matthew 11:25 and 1 Corinthians 3:18-20, where those learned, so called wise theologians and Bible experts, cannot understand these truths. Also in Isaiah 29:9-12, we are told that people who choose to believe false theories will be blinded to the truth and 2 Thessalonians 2:11 says that God will place those with closed minds under a compelling delusion, which makes them believe what is false.
Then: 2 Thess 2:12 So that all who have not believed the truth, but made falsehood their choice, may be brought to Judgment.

Fellow Christians, my aim and desire is for all of you and as many as I can reach, to be presented with the scriptural Truth; the undeniable facts of prophecy and a common sense, logical sequence of what will happen in the near future to all of us.

It is a message of hope and God's Promise of protection during a short time of difficulty, and then how He will mightily Bless His faithful people.

See...point #(4) comes into play.

Oh gee. What a message of hope and protection you offer. Believers will be beheaded. Persecuted. Even the two witnesses. Where is this protection you speak of? I can hear it now. Spiritual platitudes. So heavenly. Gag.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

They think of the Rapture as a return, but His feet never touch the ground--we meet Him in the air--perhaps even in the upper atmosphere or further away. In that regard, if your friend says that he/she has to leave but will return shortly, and then he/she stops three blocks away and calls you to come meet him/her there, unlikely you would call it a "return".

Yes, the Rapture is a calling out. It is not Christ returning to.

Stranger

 

[Helen]

Heellloooo.

I believe that “someone” knocked this thread sideways ....the topic is actually FAILED PROPHESY... not The Rapture....there are a zillion Rapture related threads already on the site. We don’t need another one ....not in this thread anyway.

Just saying ..


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[Stranger]

I noted no hatred whatsoever, myself
google isn't having any probs at all, what phrase would you like verification for
find the camp?

You're a muslim, what do I care what you noted? Hint...I don't.

Stranger

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Heellloooo.

I believe that “someone” knocked this thread sideways ....the topic is actually FAILED PROPHESY... not The Rapture....there are a zillion Rapture related threads already on the site. We don’t need another one ....not in this thread anyway.

Just saying ..


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Okay, I'm game. It isn't a failed prophecy until the Eternal State is realized without the Rapture having taken place. Just as we must assume that some of the OT prophecies which are unfulfilled are yet in the future. Those people who are truly knowledgeable know that you don't want to be a "date setter".

 

[Stranger]

Heellloooo.

I believe that “someone” knocked this thread sideways ....the topic is actually FAILED PROPHESY... not The Rapture....there are a zillion Rapture related threads already on the site. We don’t need another one ....not in this thread anyway.

Just saying ..


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No, this thread is about anti-dispensationalism. And the Rapture is always a part of dispensational teaching which is a sore point to those who hate dispensationalism. You can't ignore it.

Stranger