What is it?Part of the perplexity of this is that there is a difference between saved and salvation and that there is something very pressing going
on during Christ's ministry that most miss.
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What is it?Part of the perplexity of this is that there is a difference between saved and salvation and that there is something very pressing going
on during Christ's ministry that most miss.
Agreed. God tried different ways to get to man, and ultimately the best and last revelation is Jesus. This is why I don't really believe that revelation is progressive, or I should say, has been progressive since His resurrection and Paul's message of grace and not works of The Law. I find that as we try to become more and more enlightened, we seem only to create more problems: The Word of Faith movement, the assumption of Mary, Faith/Belief only movement, etc.It is not very complicated. There is a progression of revelation from Genesis to Revelation, which culminates in "the Revelation of Jesus Christ which God [the Father] gave unto Him".
Not everything in a previous covenant was carried over to the next....but some things always were, or maybe something was made better --- but previous covenants were never totally abolished.Dispensationalism is simply an attempt to interpret Scripture properly so that what was applicable during the duration of one covenant was not automatically carried over to another to confuse Christians. So the dispensations and covenants are tied together, and ultimately there will be a "dispensation of the fulness of times" when the Kingdom of God will be established throughout the earth.
Not sure what all the above "movements" are, but I do believe the scripture is plain and should not be messed with too much. I do believe that not all of the O.T. is written under the inspiration of God but of man. This is why it seems many times that God is being blamed for things He did not do...like creating evil or chaos in Isaiah 45:7 Man of that time attributed everything to God.One of the important contributions of Dispensationalism is to show Christians that Replacement Theology, Covenant Theology, Amillennialism, and Preterism are all false, because they are not based on rightly dividing (interpreting) the Word of Truth. The fundamental premise of Dispensationalism is that the written Word of God must be taken in its plain literal sense, comparing Scripture with Scripture, and letting the Holy Spirit harmonize everything so that there are no conflicts or confusion.
Jesus spoke very little about being saved, or salvation. He spoke a great deal about the Kingdom of God --- not the future Kingdom on earth, but the spiritual Kingdom He wanted to be on earth now. The kingdom being within us just means that He wished to have a true Kingdom here in the spiritual sense...that all these persons that would belong to His Kingdom would find it and treasure it and be a part of it and thus make the world a better place.Where you went off is in the "right now". If the Kingdom of God would be literally operational "right now" there would be ABSOLUTE PEACE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS on this earth. Obviously, the exact opposite is the case, which means that it is only AFTER the Second Coming of Christ that His Kingdom will be literally established on earth. In the meantime "the Kingdom of God is within you" (meaning it is only visible to God who sees who are His genuine children).
Interesting post.It takes a great deal of research to understand Christianity. Bible study, theology, history of all sorts, Knowledge of the biblical languages, culture, and time periods, even archaeology. It is not just the knowledge of Judaism and Christianity, it also the empires that interacted with
and influenced them. I have spent my life doing all of this, but one of the miracles that I have come to know is the cognoscente spiritual sense
of women and their ability to understand the Spirit of Christianity. The Holy Bible was written in a culture and time period that is near to being alien to us. So for that reason and many others it is not an easy thing to understand. I have spent my life in research just to realize that facts
are important but they are history. What matters most is loving God and relating to the religion and how to apply it. And as it is, women tend
to be better at that then men. For that reason I do not believe that Christ intended for Christianity to be male dominate. As in a marriage the
two persons can make a better person.
Eph 3:3,
Repentance is also important. See Luke 13:1-5.
Luk 13:1, There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
Luk 13:2, And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luk 13:3, I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Luk 13:4, Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5, I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Dispensation of grace? I would strongly suggest that since God promised Adam and Eve that her seed would bruise Satan's head, the human race has been under grace. In fact, no-one, from Adam to the last person alive on this planet, will be saved by anything other than grace.
That is incorrect. The Gospel of John is all about being saved and salvation. John chapter 3 (the title of this thread, even the the OP is mistaken) is a good place to start. The parable of the Prodigal Son, the Lost Sheep, the Lost Coin are all about being lost and saved.Jesus spoke very little about being saved, or salvation.
I didn't say Jesus did not speak about salvation.That is incorrect. The Gospel of John is all about being saved and salvation. John chapter 3 (the title of this thread, even the the OP is mistaken) is a good place to start. The parable of the Prodigal Son, the Lost Sheep, the Lost Coin are all about being lost and saved.
Oh my. I almost missed this very long post.Sorry, GodsGrace...I did not answer your question. ...then why did He choose only men to be Apostles? Well, you have a mind...
congratulations! Another huge topic. I hope this does not sound like a cop out. As it is I have explained the evidence that females
were important to the whole messiahship and ministry. Then in the end, if you look and read the Gospels closely you will read that
the Apostles really did not believe, even when He presented Himself to them, their first thought was that He was a ghost. They did
not go to the tomb to check, because they did not believe He would resurrect. Even as He ascended to Heaven, the Gospel indicates
that some had doubts. The women that followed Christ, you can call them what you want, but with them was His Mother and she
knew who and what He was and these women did too. That kind of knowledge gives you rock solid courage and that is why they were
at the Cross and the Tomb. (I am skipping over a lot of information here.) Read Hebrews carefully from start to finish. You will find
that Christ was made a High Priest, but not a Jewish High Priest. He was made a High Priest of the Order of Melchizedek. I will tell you
He was anointed to that position by women that had the authority to do that. Of course there is more to it. The book is called Hebrews
but the word Hebrew does not appear in the book and there are codes that we can touch on that later.
The New Testament was written by men, about men and there appeared to be some hostilities between the women, including Christ's
Mother and the Apostles. There are several factors that point to this. There is a disagreement at Pentecost and then the women
disappear completely from the New Testament. Other books outside the canon and other writing and traditions suggest this.
Mary Magdalene is referred to as the Apostle to the Apostles in these writings. I am not the only one researching this.
Christ and the woman at the well...Christ used a women as a minster to the Samaritans, when He knew the men had too many biases
to get the job done. I also contend that these women were with Christ before He picked His Apostles.
There is a lot more information, if your interested... God Bless
Even that is not true. But we can move on.I said He spoke only 4 or 5 times about salvation
but about 100 times about the Kingdom of God.
It's OK if you don't care to discuss this...Even that is not true. But we can move on.
The word repentance is not understood.The ritual of ""REPENTANCE"" is not required under grace. If a person reaches out to the work of Jesus on the cross they are acknowledging their sins of the flesh and it is a continuous attitude of the heart. An act of repentance is just a ritual and does not show that a person acknowledges that they sin in the flesh """ALL"" the time. I believe that for a person to place their faith in a ritual of repentance is to say Jesus did not pay for their sins on the cross. Paul does not teach that salvation is obtained by Jesus' work on the cross AND a person's ritual of repentance. Under grace salvation is given through Faith (believing, trusting, having confidence) in Jesus' work on the cross + nothing.
By the way, Luke does not teach grace. In Luke he is teaching the condemnation of the law. If that is what people wish then realize that to go under law is a refusal of grace.
You seem to have forgotten that salvation is synonymous with the New Birth, and the New Birth is synonymous with entrance into the Kingdom of God (John 3). Therefore every reference to the Kingdom of God by Christ was indeed a reference to salvation! So there goes your theory.But I had done a study on it about two years ago and it happens to be true.
Jesus spoke mainly about the Kingdom of God here on earth...which was what He intended to do.
Not even very close to true, sorry.A Gentile could only be saved by becoming a proselyte by converting to Judaism.
You don't know what you're talking about, and what's more you know that you don't know, i thinkToday, we are not saved by believing Jesus is the Jewish Messiah and King. We are saved simply by believing in Jesus' work on the cross where He paid for the sins of the whole world.