John did not give a description of baptism. All he stated was that Jesus would come and baptize with the HS and fire. That is all he said. That is a true statement. Jesus did come, he did baptize with HS and will baptize with fire.
“Saving baptism of Christ as being with the HS”? Show me anywhere that HS baptism is mentioned as a means of salvation. You added that. John never equated or even implied that HS baptism would be administered as a “saving” baptism. I will be waiting for your scriptural support of that one..
You are contradicting yourself. What John "stated" is "a description of baptism." Is english your first language?
It is the scriptures that "show" "that HS baptism is mentioned as a means of salvation." Which I did substantiate by the scriptures, by stating how Christ would build His church by the spirit of God, and also by His promise of sending the Holy Spirit, all of which speaks of the saved "
in Christ." If you are not tracking with that description and summary, you should go and read of it yourself.
If Christ baptism was not different from Johns then why did Paul baptize the Ephesians, in water, a second time? They had been baptized with Johns baptism so it should have been fine since there is no difference.
Your english comprehension has failed you again. I did not say that "Christ baptism was not different from Johns." I said Christ's baptism was not different than baptism in His name.
Your absence of scripture to support your rambling should be telling to all who read this. You are making this up as you go but it is nothing but the doctrine according to Scott.
I have been quoting the scriptures in all that I have been saying. So, no, it is not "the doctrine according to Scott." But if you require quotation marks to recognize it...then we are not of the same spirit, which would explain a lot.
Then why do so many people give their “testimony” of salvation when they were all by themselves? I don’t see how anything I have presented is evil. Just because you and others don’t like it doesn’t make it evil. When Paul was before Agrippa, festus called him mad and Paul said..
Acts 26:25 But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness.
So just because any of you think I’m crazy, evil, dishonest, cruel etc. it really doesn’t matter. I already expect you to say that.
People are saved all the time without other people being present. Salvation does not require people, it requires God. And for you to demand some kind of proof of what is unseen to the world but known to God, is abusive of His children. That is the kind of test that Satan asked of Jesus.
the Spirit WAS NOT GIVEN TO ALL. I have already proven through Acts 8 that the HS did not fall on everybody. It was only on a couple of special occasions. Acts 2, the apostles. Acts 10 on Cornelius and his family. Now you show me any other example where the HS just fell on anybody as a part of their salvation. I’ll be waiting.
You have proven nothing but perhaps your own lack of understanding and knowledge of the promises and word of God to pour out His spirit on all, which was indeed confirmed by Peter. I would ask if you are calling Peter a liar, but there is no need, I know that he is not the one in error--it's you.
But there you go again demanding (just as Satan did) that heavenly things be proven or shown by worldly things. It is not men who manifest God, but God who manifests all things.
The real question then, becomes, Why do you ask, and why do you not know or see the daily works of the Holy Spirit to fulfill what God has promised?
The answer is obvious. It is because of unbelief.