ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Helen

Well-Known Member
Oct 22, 2011
15,476
21,157
113
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
Point is...some things are not easy for a novice.
I'm lucky I can use my remote control when I can find it. If I had a teenager to show me stuff I'd be a lot better off.

I am useless at doing stuff.

I would just pull off a small photo from here , off onto the desktop on my lap top...then click on my empty avatar , and it says “upload” then the photo will upload into the avatar space.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

In the beginning of creation was the Word of God,
And the Word of God was one with God.
God was His Word.

οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν

The Word of God
was the beginning of the creation of God
and they were one with God.
 

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Well let me see....You have defined yourself as Executioner....You start a thread to insult an innocent. Well I don't know, should I judge you or your actions. Is there a positive in your actions or should we be watchful of a snake in the grass. I think Hidden in him has the best choice of actions....ignore you.
And I still love the both of you more than you love me
and hate the both of you less than you hate me.

That would still make you 2 the losers.
 

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

In the beginning of creation was the Word of God,
And the Word of God was one with God.
God was His Word.

οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν

The Word of God
was the beginning of the creation of God
and they were one with God.

πάντα δι' αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο καὶ χωρὶς αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο οὐδὲ ἕν ὃ γέγονεν

Good and evil was created by God for without God
there would be no good or evil.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2012
12,259
3,385
113
Mobile, Al.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Addressing the OP. is not John clear? if the Word was with God is not the WORD GOD? 1:1c "and the Word was God. that's simple as day. the WORD is God, one PERSON.

PICJAG.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Helen

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Addressing the OP. is not John clear? if the Word was with God is not the WORD GOD? 1:1c "and the Word was God. that's simple as day. the WORD is God, one PERSON.

PICJAG.
I accept your challenge.
Seeing how you believe that the Word is God, one PERSON.
Who do you believe is the Spirit in that one PERSON?
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2012
12,259
3,385
113
Mobile, Al.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
What is the name of the Father?
the name is "JESUS".
now to put an end to the one question thing in trying to find out where we're coming from. let us put our cards on the table, (so to speak).
understand the ONLY ONE "Person" in the God head is the Spirit, the Holy Spirit. the Holy Spirit without flesh and Blood .... the Spirit at Genesis 1:1. who is FATHER, LORD, the FIRST, the BEGINNING, the Alpha, and the Root.

the Holy Spirit, "diversified, or shared", with flesh and blood .... the spirit at John 1:1. who is Son, Lord, the Last, the End, the Omega, and the Offspring.

the Name of God is "JESUS", who holds both titles "Father/LORD, and Son/Lord.

PICJAG.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Helen

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
the name is "JESUS".
now to put an end to the one question thing in trying to find out where we're coming from. let us put our cards on the table, (so to speak).
understand the ONLY ONE "Person" in the God head is the Spirit, the Holy Spirit. the Holy Spirit without flesh and Blood .... the Spirit at Genesis 1:1. who is FATHER, LORD, the FIRST, the BEGINNING, the Alpha, and the Root.

the Holy Spirit, "diversified, or shared", with flesh and blood .... the spirit at John 1:1. who is Son, Lord, the Last, the End, the Omega, and the Offspring.

the Name of God is "JESUS", who holds both titles "Father/LORD, and Son/Lord.

PICJAG.
Please point out where the WORD fits in all this you have stated.
As I read this you have stated I do not see the word " Word ".

Please insert the word " Word " in your statement.

So as it is included within your explanation.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2012
12,259
3,385
113
Mobile, Al.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Please point out where the WORD fits in all this you have stated.
As I read this you have stated I do not see the word " Word ".

Please insert the word " Word " in your statement.

So as it is included within your explanation.
OK, listen up the "Word" is the Spirit shared in Flesh. supportive scripture, 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow".
was it NOT the Holy Spirit that was in them? let's see, 2 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost".
and if one would Notice in the OT all the prophets said something like this, "the word of the LORD came unto me". not just words, with the "s" at the end. no word.

The Word is the Spirit in the OT without flesh, and the Word at John 1:1 is the Same Spirit now diversified in flesh with blood.

PICJAG.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Helen

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
OK, listen up the "Word" is the Spirit shared in Flesh. supportive scripture, 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow".
was it NOT the Holy Spirit that was in them? let's see, 2 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost".
and if one would Notice in the OT all the prophets said something like this, "the word of the LORD came unto me". not just words, with the "s" at the end. no word.

The Word is the Spirit in the OT without flesh, and the Word at John 1:1 is the Same Spirit now diversified in flesh with blood.

PICJAG.
John 14:28
I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Is this the Word
Yes or no?
 

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I want you to know I had to overcome the temptation to mock you
for your disrespectful stupidity
thank God I shall get the reward for defeating you and your false doctrine.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2012
12,259
3,385
113
Mobile, Al.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
John 14:28
I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Is this the Word
Yes or no?
YES, shared in flesh. and as for "GREATER" is that in quality , or quantity........ (smile).
let's prove this out to you, John 13:16 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. now this,
John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father".
now are you GREATER than JESUS? but read that verse again, there are two keys to answer the "Greater than I" question.
again "GREATER" is that in quality , or quantity........ (smile).

PICJAG.

PS we have answer this question many of times in various topics.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Helen

101G

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2012
12,259
3,385
113
Mobile, Al.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I want you to know I had to overcome the temptation to mock you
for your disrespectful stupidity
thank God I shall get the reward for defeating you and your false doctrine.
only one thing, when you dig a hole make it two, one for you........ :D

well let's get you on the road to your defeat and your reward. since you have asked us some question, may we ask you some.
our first Question. is Jesus the ONLY person in the Godhead.
question. Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John"

ok Executioner, who was it that sent "his" angel to John?
A. was it the one whom you calls the Father, or B. the the one whom you call the Son. your answer please. but read Rev 22:6 first because the angel who was sent identify the one who sent him. will be looking for your answer.

PICJAG.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Helen

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
only one thing, when you dig a hole make it two, one for you........ :D

well let's get you on the road to your defeat and your reward. since you have asked us some question, may we ask you some.
our first Question. is Jesus the ONLY person in the Godhead.
question. Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John"

ok Executioner, who was it that sent "his" angel to John?
A. was it the one whom you calls the Father, or B. the the one whom you call the Son. your answer please. but read Rev 22:6 first because the angel who was sent identify the one who sent him. will be looking for your answer.

PICJAG.
Life for life.
Soul for soul.

That to which I stated to you has no error or contradictions within it
and that to which you have stated to me has more than one error
and more than one contradiction within it.

Do you accept my challenge?
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2012
12,259
3,385
113
Mobile, Al.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Life for life.
Soul for soul.

That to which I stated to you has no error or contradictions within it
and that to which you have stated to me has more than one error
and more than one contradiction within it.

Do you accept my challenge?
in the name of JESUS, challenge accepted, now answer the question, who sent his angel to John? read Rev 22:6 first.
you answer please.

PICJAG.
 

Executioner

Member
Jul 23, 2019
76
7
8
24
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
in the name of JESUS, challenge accepted, now answer the question, who sent his angel to John? read Rev 22:6 first.
you answer please.

PICJAG.
I do not have to answer any question to defeat you.
For it is written
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

My evidence is your own words. I rest my case before God.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2012
12,259
3,385
113
Mobile, Al.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I do not have to answer any question to defeat you.
For it is written
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

My evidence is your own words. I rest my case before God.
quit stalling, you don't know. please post the PERSONAL NAME of the Lord God who sent his angel.

see I know that the Father name is Jesus, I know that the son name is Jesus, who is the Spirit the Holy Spirit.

see the angel in Rev 22:6 said that it was the Lord God of the holy prophets, and that's, JESUS.
I dare for you to say I'm in ERROR, meet the challenge put up or shut up..... :D all in the name of LOVE.... (smile).

well your answer please.

PICJAG.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Helen

Helen

Well-Known Member
Oct 22, 2011
15,476
21,157
113
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
quit stalling, you don't know. please post the PERSONAL NAME of the Lord God who sent his angel.

see I know that the Father name is Jesus, I know that the son name is Jesus, who is the Spirit the Holy Spirit.

see the angel in Rev 22:6 said that it was the Lord God of the holy prophets, and that's, JESUS.
I dare for you to say I'm in ERROR, meet the challenge put up or shut up..... :D all in the name of LOVE.... (smile).

well your answer please.

PICJAG.

He can't, because he has proved himself a Troll.
He is not here to discuss or answer....