1 Corinthians 2:14 is for non-believers.
Do you feel like everyone here is a natural man except for you?
Do you believe only you have the truth and no one else?
What do you think Christianity believed before 1,500AD?
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Do you feel like everyone here is a natural man except for you?
Do you believe only you have the truth and no one else?
What do you think Christianity believed before 1,500AD?
John Caldwell
Well-Known Member
I think it is obviously he does. Jesus warns that many who have called Him Lord were never known by Him. This is a terrifying passage and should have everyone of us evaluating oyr heart. Do we love or do we hate. Are we Christ-like in our behavior or are we worldly.
I do not know the best method to deal with these cult-like followers of their own heart . They hear a theology and like it so they choose to devote their lives in pursuit of it's hidden gyms without ever considering the gospel it is intended to articulate.
All we can do is share the gospel and pray. We are not to "cast pearls before swine". I am begining to see this speaks to our current situation. The spiritually dead cannot discern the things of the Spirit. But the gospel is the power of God unto salvation. So we pray, weep, and hope. It is God alone who can bring people in, not us.
Agreed. It's the Holy Spirit who will convict...we can only speak the words.
It seems to me that some here love John Piper more than they love Jesus.
We all have some aspect of theology that will not agree with others.
So, it's discussed in a civil way...partly to converse, which is why I'm here...partly for those reading along so they can get a complete picture,,,and partly because someone may hear something they need to hear. After all, we are God's hands and feet on earth.
I don't like calvinism because it changes the nature of God.
But I feel I can speak about it in a mannerly way....
What I do NOT understand is why I see so much dislike of other Christians in many of that theology (not all of course).
I've also said many times that our doctrine does not save us.
I don't believe calvinists are going to hell,,,and I would hope they return the thought..however, it doesn't seem so; I've been told I'm lost.
All this just to say that I agree with you and what you're telling the other member.
John Caldwell
Well-Known Member
I agree. And I like John Piper - his works have been meaninful in my life. The difference is I do not follow John Piper.
I think the dangerous thing about "packaged theology" is it can result in people making it a religion. The member here has chosen Calvinism because it appealed to him on some level. He has obviously dedicated much time to its study and discipled himself under the writings of those with whom he would agree. That takes enormous efgort, but it us effort misplaced as it has not (to borrow from another Calvinist, James White) made him a gracious Christian. In fact, it seems to have had the opposite effect.
I purpose there are two kinds of Calvinism - Calvinism as an understanding of at least a part of God's work of salvation and Calvinism as a religion. I think the differences are evident in the love each group has for believers and the emphasis eavh places on human understanding.
The reason I affirm Calvinism is that I see salvation as a work of God in our lives. When I look back I see God leading me to repentance and faith. This does not negate my choice (paticularly if as the lost looking forward).
But these are understandings and I am only a man trying to understand eternal things of God. I rest in Christ and what God has done rather than in my own musings.
God is definitely at work in our salvation process.
Perhaps He has softened our heart....
I don't know.
But I do know that our free will has something to do with all this.
Even Augustine, in the end, believed in free will.
He said:
If a man stands,,,he stands with God.
If he falls...he falls alone.
Because it's difficult to understand or reconcile this free will does not mean we just throw it out and cling to a belief that does not properly represent God who desires that all be saved. How to reconcile all this?
I must say that I find Calvin to have been of an intelligence rarely found.
And I also like many sermons by Piper, Sproul and others....
There are some verses in the N.T. that do make it appear that God chooses us...
I think calmly discussing these verses is interesting...
but love above all....
Jesus said hating is like murdering.
Hello GG,
Enoch111 said that Calvinism is another gospel.
Most of the believing churches have believed these truths.
A natural man will not see it...indeed he cannot.
So he is basically saying those millions of Christian's are not saved.
No person can really do that.
You do not agree with the teaching, but you would not make such a radical statement.
Your new friend JonC is a troublemaker.
He is only here to cause trouble. He is here for one reason, to makes personal attacks against me.
He has done this for 4 years now.
Evidently he is a sick twisted stalker.
The first few times he personally attacked me, I forgave him and said, let's move forward.
This is at least the fifth time he has done this...I have tried to help him, but he persists.
Notice what he does...he makes believe he is trying to help, saying I will pray for you, to seek help, but then he says I am not saved, need help, have used drugs , invent things.
He is one sick puppy.
Many have seen him in action it is sad and pathetic.
He then talks above love to garner sympathy...but make no mistake he shows himself to be an enemy of the cross of Christ.
John,
I could not disagree with this at all. We are not talking about those who are genuine Christians and who hold to this gospel. But when we focus the actual Gospel contained in Five Point Calvinism, it is at serious variance with the true Gospel of Christ.
Since Christ died for the sins of the whole world, and God desires the salvation of all mankind, He cannot possibly elect some for salvation and others for damnation. That would violate His character and His Gospel.
But when you examine the Westminster Confession of Faith or the London Baptist Confession of Faith, they both deny that Christ died for the sins of the whole world, and that all may be saved if all would repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Instead they say that God predestined some for salvation and others for damnation, and that Christ died only for the elect.
If we were simply dealing with "my ideas" it would not matter. But when we are dealing with God's Truth, that is an entirely different matter. In fact it is a serious offense to alter or pervert the Gospel in any way, shape or form.
GALATIANS 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the Gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Since Paul said that God now commands ALL MEN EVERYWHERE to repent (Acts 17:30), it follows that God will have all men to be saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim 2:3,4). And this is perverted by Five Point Calvinism.
I'll tell you why I can never agree with the teachings of John Calvin.
His teachings totally change the character of God.
The bible teaches us that God is a loving God, a merciful God and a just God.
If Calvin is right,,,then God is not loving, He is not merciful, and He is not just.
I understand that we face a problem with God's sovereignty and our free will.
IOW, If God has to do what HE wants to do,,,,then how could we possibly have free will?
Can't you accept that it can be both?
John Calvin teaches a different gospel and I'll tell you why....
Before the year 1,500 AD there was no such belief as what Calvin proposed.
Ask yourself how that could be....were there no theologians before 1,500AD?
We Christians had to wait for Calvin to be born (and Luther) in order for his to explain God to us?
The church has existed since the time of Jesus' resurrections. The church ALWAYS believed that God offers His salvation to EVERYONE that will accept His terms...
God sends NO ONE TO HELL...Anyone that goes there, goes there because they refused God's love.
Read what Ignatius said....he learned under Peter and also John...he learned DIRECTLY from the Apostles....
Ignatius (AD30-107)
“Seeing, then, all things have an end, and there is set before us life upon our observance [of God’s precepts], but death as the result of disobedience, and every one, according to the choice he makes, shall go to his own place, let us flee from death, and make choice of life.
For I remark, that two different characters are found among men — the one true coin, the other spurious. The truly devout man is the right kind of coin, stamped by God Himself. The ungodly man, again, is false coin, unlawful, spurious, counterfeit, wrought not by God, but by the devil. I do not mean to say that there are two different human natures, but that there is one humanity, sometimes belonging to God, and sometimes to the devil.
If any one is truly religious, he is a man of God; but if he is irreligious, he is a man of the devil, made such, not by nature, but by his own choice. The unbelieving bear the image of the prince of wickedness. The believing possess the image of their Prince, God the Father, and Jesus Christ, through whom, if we are not in readiness to die for the truth into His passion, His life is not in us.”(Ignatius, Epistle to the Magnesians, V)
There's much more if you're interested.
Why would someone need to repent if it's God that is going to save whom He will anyway?
Acts 17:30
30“Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,
John Caldwell
Well-Known Member
Enoch,
Thank you for considering my words. I agree with you to an extent – the difference being that there are variants within Calvinistic thought. For example, at the Synod of Dort we can see a compromise in the language (some were willing to exclude others from the complete scope of the Atonement while others were milder in their view).
The problem is that even the best of the group is known by the worst element within (or claiming to be within). They are often the loudest (think of Yeats observation that the best all lack conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity….something we see acted out on this very thread).
Let me explain:
I am a Calvinist. I am largely because of writings from men like John Piper, Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards, and the like. Not because I subscribe to their ideas but because I think along those lines.
I agree with you that the gospel is not contained in the Five Points of Calvinism. That was never the intent of the Synod of Dort. The intent was to examine the doctrine of predestination that grew out of James Arminius’ teachings.
I do not believe that Calvinism itself is at odds with the gospel. But Calvinism is not my religion, so if I did come to see it in that light then I’d no longer be a Calvinist.
1. I believe that men alone cannot come to God. The Holy Spirit must move in the spirit of a man to draw that man to Christ.
2. I believe that there is nothing in man that merits salvation but that God has chosen us in Him from the foundations of the world. I believe that God has created you and I in Christ Jesus for works that God has prepared beforehand for us.
3. I believe that Christ died to save those who believe (that Christ lay down His life for the Church).
4. I believe that God will accomplish His will in our lives. When we look back at our salvation I believe that we will say that God saved us.
5. I believe that those who are saved will be saved (I believe that those who believe are given eternal life).
That said, I also believe:
1. Coming into the world the Light has enlightened every man.
2. We must repent and believe to be saved.
3. God sent His son into the world that whosoever believes might be saved, Christ is the Propitiation for the sins of all men (as John Calvin noted – without exception).
4. It is God’s will that none perish, but many perish. Men resist God…that is what we do (even the saved, and God disciplines His children for that resistance).
5. Our assurance of salvation is based on our fruit at any given time. Our present salvation (state of being saved) points to our future state. Many are for all discernable purposes (even discernable to themselves) saved, yet will be proven otherwise “on that day”.
Personally, I do not like the term “Calvinist” because it associates me with people like a member on this forum. The ONLY reason I can accept the term is that it affirms the five points within a baptistic context (I’m SBC by denomination).
I hope this helps get to know me a little better.
John Caldwell,
I am speaking of your ungodly conduct no matter which forum you are on.
on the other forum you delete posts left and right censoring those you cannot answer.
All the Cals had posts deleted by you.
The worst part is you lied saying you did not delete the posts, and tried to lie saying we made it up.
You got caught and your lying was partially exposed
[If I had that screenshot when you melted down and hated Calvinists, and called us untrustworthy, and dishonest...two or three of the men were pastors.You would be toast there]
Not even once but I expect as much from a liar like you are.I might not be that smart JonC but i can spot your lies and evil intentions from a mile away.
Not once did you intervene and respond to the attackers as they insulted the cals personally, not once you hypocrite.
jn3:
27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
No Calvinist ever was mistaken about you being a Calvinist...they knew that was a joke...The anti-cals know you are not,lol
No..negative comments came toward you because of your censorship, deleting posts that you could not answer, and your unethical conduct.
Good posters left because of you, and will not return until they throw you off as a moderator.
You can believe whatever you want and call me names, then go behind the scenes and present yourself as the 'RIGHTEOUS jONC..I do not care what you believe as you are a dishonest person. On the phone, you sounded normal, but in reality, that was a farce.
You have not come to this board to help, or this thread to deal with the OP. you have one goal and that is to stalk and attack me, personally. I do not want or welcome your posts. I will continue to expose your evil agenda.
I have tried to help you before, but evidently i failed...someone else might be able to help you.
You care for me and other cals about like Cain cared for Abel....same sin, you just use the keyboard and delete key
Yeah i remember TC....shredding your error, then biblicist, then the other Cal brothers...you could not take it, so you went on an anti cal Jihad didn't you
Thing is I did not lie about anyone...i asked RSR to watch you as you stalked my posts trying to provoke me...he did not get it, and one of the snowflakes reported something...and no one defended me.
As often as you lie, delete and censor posts, they will not see a godly example from you that is for sure.
I told you 15 times over there, nicely, to leave me and my posts alone, but you are sickly obseesed with yourself and have to intrude into everything. I am onto you as others are.
Yet another attack from you thinly veiled as you are trying to help. That is always when some kind of insult is incoming from you. I do not need any help from you ;
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways
That is the spin you put on your evil doing. It is not doctrinal, you make it a personal. I do not believe you are a Christian.
if youwere a Christian, there would be no need to hide your posts over there, they would be open for all to see. You would not have to lie and delete posts, then say you did not delete them, then admityou did delete them after you attacked people like me, Sg< biblicist, and MM saying you did not delete it,
Do I have to expose those posts once again. If you man up and restore the deleted posts, admit you did it, Then i would believe god was dealing with you. Until then you show yourself an enemy of the cross of Christ and a disgrace.
I do not have thin skin, and can deal like a cyber bully like you any day of the week.
keep your thoughts to yourself, i do not want them...stay away from me.
I am speaking of your ungodly conduct no matter which forum you are on.
on the other forum you delete posts left and right censoring those you cannot answer.
All the Cals had posts deleted by you.
The worst part is you lied saying you did not delete the posts, and tried to lie saying we made it up.
You got caught and your lying was partially exposed
[If I had that screenshot when you melted down and hated Calvinists, and called us untrustworthy, and dishonest...two or three of the men were pastors.You would be toast there]
,
Not even once but I expect as much from a liar like you are.I might not be that smart JonC but i can spot your lies and evil intentions from a mile away.
When we as a group were being attacked, I defended the Cal brothers and responded to the attacks. Anyone who asks sincere questions gets a sincere answer. They should have thrown you off for claiming you are a Calvinist.
Not once did you intervene and respond to the attackers as they insulted the cals personally, not once you hypocrite.
Yes that is true, because it is true...
jn3:
27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
No Calvinist ever was mistaken about you being a Calvinist...they knew that was a joke...The anti-cals know you are not,lol
No..negative comments came toward you because of your censorship, deleting posts that you could not answer, and your unethical conduct.
Good posters left because of you, and will not return until they throw you off as a moderator.
All biblical Christians do this. it is your slanderous lies about the Calvinists that say otherwise.
You can believe whatever you want and call me names, then go behind the scenes and present yourself as the 'RIGHTEOUS jONC..I do not care what you believe as you are a dishonest person. On the phone, you sounded normal, but in reality, that was a farce.
You have not come to this board to help, or this thread to deal with the OP. you have one goal and that is to stalk and attack me, personally. I do not want or welcome your posts. I will continue to expose your evil agenda.
I have tried to help you before, but evidently i failed...someone else might be able to help you.
You care for me and other cals about like Cain cared for Abel....same sin, you just use the keyboard and delete key
Jesus saved me from my sins. i try and help others and correct when they offer error, which you feed them and never really offer correction, your posts are so vague, no one knows what you are talking about.
Yeah i remember TC....shredding your error, then biblicist, then the other Cal brothers...you could not take it, so you went on an anti cal Jihad didn't you
Thing is I did not lie about anyone...i asked RSR to watch you as you stalked my posts trying to provoke me...he did not get it, and one of the snowflakes reported something...and no one defended me.
As often as you lie, delete and censor posts, they will not see a godly example from you that is for sure.
I told you 15 times over there, nicely, to leave me and my posts alone, but you are sickly obseesed with yourself and have to intrude into everything. I am onto you as others are.
Yet another attack from you thinly veiled as you are trying to help. That is always when some kind of insult is incoming from you. I do not need any help from you ;
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways
That is the spin you put on your evil doing. It is not doctrinal, you make it a personal. I do not believe you are a Christian.
if youwere a Christian, there would be no need to hide your posts over there, they would be open for all to see. You would not have to lie and delete posts, then say you did not delete them, then admityou did delete them after you attacked people like me, Sg< biblicist, and MM saying you did not delete it,
Do I have to expose those posts once again. If you man up and restore the deleted posts, admit you did it, Then i would believe god was dealing with you. Until then you show yourself an enemy of the cross of Christ and a disgrace.
Another smug, creepy quote so you can take another shot at me.
I do not have thin skin, and can deal like a cyber bully like you any day of the week.
keep your thoughts to yourself, i do not want them...stay away from me.
GG,
The gospel is preached to all men within the sound of it. All men are fully responsible to repent and believe God right now.
God works through means.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
So we bring the gospel to all we can reach. the results belong to God.
John Caldwell
Well-Known Member
Sorry it took me a bit to address this post. I've been thinking about it since you posted the comments (I'm a slow thinker and not always good at it).
I do disagree (I think). Think of it in human terms.
Suppose you are selling Ford trucks and I like Chevys. We get to know one another and you present a convincing argument on the merits of a Ford truck over a Chevrolet, I may (based on your argument and my view of yoyr opinion) choose to purchase a Ford. I freely made the choice and this of my own free (but not uninfluenced) will. Your will is done, and in a way it has prevailed over my previous Chevy heart. But the decision remained mine and I freely chose to purchase a Ford.
GodsGrace,
Hello GG,
I did not mention John Calvin, did I?
Have you read any of His writings?
What have you read first hand?
Could you quote some examples of that?
I would rather you answer the first 3 posts, as this thread is not about John Calvin, but rather a biblical view of Foreknowledge
[QUOTE]The bible teaches us that God is a loving God, a merciful God and a just God[/QUOTE].
Every biblical Calvinist believes that.
Calvin did not write scripture, Jesus had the Apostles write it guided by the Spirit.
Biblically free will does not exist.
No..men have a self will that is bound. God is God;psalm115
3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
isa46;
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
If you are going to accuse him, could you give direct quotes?
This is factually incorrect. Jesus and the Apostles taught Calvinism before Calvin was born, Moses and David were Calvinists
Do you understand what i mean by this? Think it out. There were no printing presses, there was no "google".it was not easy for those saints to gather truth.
The early churches already had error in them. Churches were scattered and plagued by false teachers alrweady. the Roman church took heresy to new levels.
.
The church preached to all men. if they believed or not.
[QUOTE]God sends NO ONE TO HELL...Anyone that goes there, goes there because they refused God's love.
[/QUOTE]
God is going to send multitudes to hell for their sins...plural;
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Ignatius (AD30-107)
“Seeing, then, all things have an end, and there is set before us life upon our observance [of God’s precepts], but death as the result of disobedience, and every one, according to the choice he makes, shall go to his own place, let us flee from death, and make choice of life.
For I remark, that two different characters are found among men — the one true coin, the other spurious. The truly devout man is the right kind of coin, stamped by God Himself. The ungodly man, again, is false coin, unlawful, spurious, counterfeit, wrought not by God, but by the devil. I do not mean to say that there are two different human natures, but that there is one humanity, sometimes belonging to God, and sometimes to the devil.
If any one is truly religious, he is a man of God; but if he is irreligious, he is a man of the devil, made such, not by nature, but by his own choice. The unbelieving bear the image of the prince of wickedness. The believing possess the image of their Prince, God the Father, and Jesus Christ, through whom, if we are not in readiness to die for the truth into His passion, His life is not in us.”(Ignatius, Epistle to the Magnesians, V)
There's much more if you're interested.[/QUOTE]
we would have to see what he believed about the fall of Adam; he has error here;
Hello GG,
I did not mention John Calvin, did I?
Have you read any of His writings?
What have you read first hand?
Could you quote some examples of that?
I would rather you answer the first 3 posts, as this thread is not about John Calvin, but rather a biblical view of Foreknowledge
[QUOTE]The bible teaches us that God is a loving God, a merciful God and a just God[/QUOTE].
Every biblical Calvinist believes that.
Calvin did not write scripture, Jesus had the Apostles write it guided by the Spirit.
Biblically free will does not exist.
No..men have a self will that is bound. God is God;psalm115
3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
isa46;
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
.
If you are going to accuse him, could you give direct quotes?
This is factually incorrect. Jesus and the Apostles taught Calvinism before Calvin was born, Moses and David were Calvinists
Do you understand what i mean by this? Think it out. There were no printing presses, there was no "google".it was not easy for those saints to gather truth.
The early churches already had error in them. Churches were scattered and plagued by false teachers alrweady. the Roman church took heresy to new levels.
.
...
The church preached to all men. if they believed or not.
[QUOTE]God sends NO ONE TO HELL...Anyone that goes there, goes there because they refused God's love.
[/QUOTE]
God is going to send multitudes to hell for their sins...plural;
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Ignatius (AD30-107)
“Seeing, then, all things have an end, and there is set before us life upon our observance [of God’s precepts], but death as the result of disobedience, and every one, according to the choice he makes, shall go to his own place, let us flee from death, and make choice of life.
For I remark, that two different characters are found among men — the one true coin, the other spurious. The truly devout man is the right kind of coin, stamped by God Himself. The ungodly man, again, is false coin, unlawful, spurious, counterfeit, wrought not by God, but by the devil. I do not mean to say that there are two different human natures, but that there is one humanity, sometimes belonging to God, and sometimes to the devil.
If any one is truly religious, he is a man of God; but if he is irreligious, he is a man of the devil, made such, not by nature, but by his own choice. The unbelieving bear the image of the prince of wickedness. The believing possess the image of their Prince, God the Father, and Jesus Christ, through whom, if we are not in readiness to die for the truth into His passion, His life is not in us.”(Ignatius, Epistle to the Magnesians, V)
There's much more if you're interested.[/QUOTE]
we would have to see what he believed about the fall of Adam; he has error here;
John Caldwell
Well-Known Member
1 John 2:9-11John Caldwell,
I am speaking of your ungodly conduct no matter which forum you are on.
on the other forum you delete posts left and right censoring those you cannot answer.
All the Cals had posts deleted by you.
The worst part is you lied saying you did not delete the posts, and tried to lie saying we made it up.
You got caught and your lying was partially exposed
[If I had that screenshot when you melted down and hated Calvinists, and called us untrustworthy, and dishonest...two or three of the men were pastors.You would be toast there]
,
Not even once but I expect as much from a liar like you are.I might not be that smart JonC but i can spot your lies and evil intentions from a mile away.
When we as a group were being attacked, I defended the Cal brothers and responded to the attacks. Anyone who asks sincere questions gets a sincere answer. They should have thrown you off for claiming you are a Calvinist.
Not once did you intervene and respond to the attackers as they insulted the cals personally, not once you hypocrite.
Yes that is true, because it is true...
jn3:
27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
No Calvinist ever was mistaken about you being a Calvinist...they knew that was a joke...The anti-cals know you are not,lol
No..negative comments came toward you because of your censorship, deleting posts that you could not answer, and your unethical conduct.
Good posters left because of you, and will not return until they throw you off as a moderator.
All biblical Christians do this. it is your slanderous lies about the Calvinists that say otherwise.
You can believe whatever you want and call me names, then go behind the scenes and present yourself as the 'RIGHTEOUS jONC..I do not care what you believe as you are a dishonest person. On the phone, you sounded normal, but in reality, that was a farce.
You have not come to this board to help, or this thread to deal with the OP. you have one goal and that is to stalk and attack me, personally. I do not want or welcome your posts. I will continue to expose your evil agenda.
I have tried to help you before, but evidently i failed...someone else might be able to help you.
You care for me and other cals about like Cain cared for Abel....same sin, you just use the keyboard and delete key
Jesus saved me from my sins. i try and help others and correct when they offer error, which you feed them and never really offer correction, your posts are so vague, no one knows what you are talking about.
Yeah i remember TC....shredding your error, then biblicist, then the other Cal brothers...you could not take it, so you went on an anti cal Jihad didn't you
Thing is I did not lie about anyone...i asked RSR to watch you as you stalked my posts trying to provoke me...he did not get it, and one of the snowflakes reported something...and no one defended me.
As often as you lie, delete and censor posts, they will not see a godly example from you that is for sure.
I told you 15 times over there, nicely, to leave me and my posts alone, but you are sickly obseesed with yourself and have to intrude into everything. I am onto you as others are.
Yet another attack from you thinly veiled as you are trying to help. That is always when some kind of insult is incoming from you. I do not need any help from you ;
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways
That is the spin you put on your evil doing. It is not doctrinal, you make it a personal. I do not believe you are a Christian.
if youwere a Christian, there would be no need to hide your posts over there, they would be open for all to see. You would not have to lie and delete posts, then say you did not delete them, then admityou did delete them after you attacked people like me, Sg< biblicist, and MM saying you did not delete it,
Do I have to expose those posts once again. If you man up and restore the deleted posts, admit you did it, Then i would believe god was dealing with you. Until then you show yourself an enemy of the cross of Christ and a disgrace.
Another smug, creepy quote so you can take another shot at me.
I do not have thin skin, and can deal like a cyber bully like you any day of the week.
keep your thoughts to yourself, i do not want them...stay away from me.
The one who says he is in the Light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now. The one who loves his brother abides in the Light and there is no cause for stumbling in him. But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes.
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John Caldwell,
Yes. and I am equally sorry you were banned from the doctine of grace forum..I think for lying and being dishonest if I understood correctly
it is temporary..no one gave any reason, just like when you deleted seven of my posts and two threads because you could not deal with them
No Calvinist sees hate in my posts. they see a defense against the non-stop attacks, by rm, mb, van, and others who cannot answer scripturally. They can just insult like you do,
Another attack veiled as a plea, you are a riot
Haha, no one has hurt my "feelings". Do not confuse me with the snowflakes who report every post they can not answer.
These boards can help people but are often hostile. I am equipped to deal with either.
Here I can make short work of your evil posts, as I can tell when the attack is on the way.
you have not dealt with the OP. you are here to cause trouble, that is your only reason for being here.
Do you find it hard to interact without deleting and editing posts you do not like. I hate censorship where you think everyone has to see it your way, which is mostly defective.
Here is your sanctimonious attack..the "concerned" JonC, then snaps and suggests I am somehow separated from the love of Christ. You lying devil, nothing can separate me from God's love.
Unlike you I am an actual Calvinist, a sinner saved by God 's grace;
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
King James Version (KJV)
For the readers, sorry to subject you to these foul posts by JonC, but we are not to be ignorant of satans devices
Of course, you do JonC. can you possibly stop lying??? are you suggesting you did not delete 7 of my posts and threads because you did not want to deal with them?
Yes. and I am equally sorry you were banned from the doctine of grace forum..I think for lying and being dishonest if I understood correctly
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it is temporary..no one gave any reason, just like when you deleted seven of my posts and two threads because you could not deal with them
No Calvinist sees hate in my posts. they see a defense against the non-stop attacks, by rm, mb, van, and others who cannot answer scripturally. They can just insult like you do,
Another attack veiled as a plea, you are a riot
Haha, no one has hurt my "feelings". Do not confuse me with the snowflakes who report every post they can not answer.
These boards can help people but are often hostile. I am equipped to deal with either.
Here I can make short work of your evil posts, as I can tell when the attack is on the way.
you have not dealt with the OP. you are here to cause trouble, that is your only reason for being here.
Do you find it hard to interact without deleting and editing posts you do not like. I hate censorship where you think everyone has to see it your way, which is mostly defective.
Here is your sanctimonious attack..the "concerned" JonC, then snaps and suggests I am somehow separated from the love of Christ. You lying devil, nothing can separate me from God's love.
Unlike you I am an actual Calvinist, a sinner saved by God 's grace;
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
King James Version (KJV)
For the readers, sorry to subject you to these foul posts by JonC, but we are not to be ignorant of satans devices
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Of course, you do JonC. can you possibly stop lying??? are you suggesting you did not delete 7 of my posts and threads because you did not want to deal with them?
I do not know what Calvinists (or non-Calvinists) you think I have spoken against.[/QUOTE]
Do you want me list them? or would you rather I get them all to post here???
[thankyou baptistboard]
Another slimy comment. i do not mind when someone disagrees with me, that is why these boards exist in part. I ask that they offer scriptural correction not attacks.
I attempt to offer both when not being stalked and attacked by you.
another attack by the frazzled jonc. I start with scripture, just like all the Calvinist confessions of faith do. let me guess it is JonC sermonette time, followed by another attack;
Yes, I am sure everyone can see you sincere concern
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