I like the online "Blue Letter Bible" where you can look up the chapter and then click on "Tools" that appears to the left of each verse and it will show the words in the original. Whenever you see the Hebrew "mareh" it is always talking about the 2,300 Days in the context of such phrases like "make this man to understand the vision ("mareh") and such - it's never used to refer to the entire vision of Daniel 8, as is "chazown" - only the part that left Daniel confused which is the 2,300 and Gabriel in chapter 9 comes to make him "understand the matter and consider the "mareh".
Phoneman, please read all of this carefully, and slowly. Let it sink in.
You are passing over key points as to the
timing of these visions and conversations with Gabriel, and incorrectly believe they are closely connected and believe this has to do with the 2300 day prophecy of Daniel 8. Read it more carefully.
I'll point out some things. For one thing what Daniel was questioning was NOT the 2300 day prophecy of
DANIEL, but the prophecy of
JEREMIAH. It had to do with the seventy years, not 2300 days (which was already sealed).
Chapter 9:
In the
first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the lineage of the Medes, who was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans— 2 in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years
specified by the word of the Lord through
Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish
seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
Chapter 8
Note that chapter 8 starts out saying, "In the
third year of the reign of King Belshazzar.
Darius and Belshazzar are years apart.
At the end of the 2300 day vision, Gabriel says, "Therefore seal up the vision, For it refers to many days in the future.” And I, Daniel, fainted and was sick for days; afterward I arose and went about the king’s business. I was astonished by the vision, but no one understood it. That was the end of it. Daniel didn't ask anything more about it. There are years between chapter 8 and chapter 9 under two separate kings! BTW, mareh just means vision. And Jeremiah's vision had nothing to do with 2300 days.
Chathak
Definition
- to divide, determine
- (Niphal) to be determined, be decreed, be settled, be marked off
I see in the book Sabbath Delight, a SDA publication from Pacific Press, is where you got your definition and confusion of combining prophecies. You really should broaden your scope. Just study the word of God. It is clear enough. If you just count on a faulty commentary that doesn't recognize Daniel was wanting to know the meaning of the prophecy from Jeremiah, you are just passing along their mistake, and proving you are not studying the Word, you are studying your denomination's view. This is why I am NOT in a denomination.
Just because years before there was a vision of the 2300 days that Daniel took Gabriel's word for it that it wouldn't be fulfilled for a long time, so seal it, you have jumped to the conclusion that Daniel is still bugging Gabriel to tell him more about it, and that the seventy weeks has been cut out of the 2300 evenings and mornings, which, if you're looking at it honestly, only calculates to 6.3 years, even though I know you accept that each day (evening and morning) of Creation was only 24 hours long. That was the reason why the clarification of "evenings and mornings" was written, and not just "days." Because of the sins of Israel that they did not obey God in regard to the sabbaths of the land, seventy years (of weeks/sabbaths) was "decreed" as a judgment against them as a last chance to put an end to their transgressions, which ended with the destruction of the last Jewish temple.
Don't forget that this prophecy has to do only with
Israel. And so did the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy. Instead, you've got apples and oranges. Two different
kings,
years apart, two separate
prophecies, by two different
prophets, about two different
revolts that destroyed two different
Jewish temples.
