The AoD In Daniel Was Fulfilled

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I am not sure what you are trying to say. The tabernacle is an edifice of the past, where it's 180' structure would hardly accommodate the hundreds of thousands of Israel.
Then that right there, of what you just said, should tell you the temple of God, since the first appearance of Christ is NOT a literal building "made by human hands". I gave you the scripture of John 2:21, that you can know it. He was/is the chief cornerstone of the temple that He has building, ever since Pentecost, which is by the work of His Holy Spirit. Therefore, we who believe, and are born again, are the Temple of God, the place of His Dwelling.
 
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God the Father IS NOT interested in any physical temple building made by any human. Especially since His Son came here in the flesh, and died for us as God's sacrifice for us.
You all need to back up and then abandon the foolishness of a temple building to be built in Jerusalem.
God Himself brought it to ruination in 70AD, that is, if you can understand the prophecy of the 70 weeks in Daniel 9:27. The word "he" in that verse, is speaking about Jesus! By His Sacrifice, HE IS THE CAUSE of its destruction!!
 

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God the Father IS NOT interested in any physical temple building made by any human. Especially since His Son came here in the flesh, and died for us as God's sacrifice for us.
You all need to back up and then abandon the foolishness of a temple building to be built in Jerusalem.
God Himself brought it to ruination in 70AD, that is, if you can understand the prophecy of the 70 weeks in Daniel 9:27. The word "he" in that verse, is speaking about Jesus! By His Sacrifice, HE IS THE CAUSE of its destruction!!

Proverbs 17:15 KJV
[15] He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.


Tecarta BibleI heard a man give a sermon on this years ago and I’ll never forget it. In seeing the neurological loop that these men are stuck in it resurfaced.

In Romans alone, I believe it’s recorded 11 time I (the wicked have been justified). Praise God!!

What happened on that cross is truly miraculous.
 
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Proverbs 17:15 KJV
[15] He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.


Tecarta BibleI heard a man give a sermon on this years ago and I’ll never forget it. In seeing the neurological loop that these men are stuck in it resurfaced.

In Romans alone, I believe it’s recorded 11 time I (the wicked have been justified). Praise God!!

What happened on that cross is truly miraculous.

The only covenant keeper, was treated as the covenant breaker.
 

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I never said anything like that.

Well.You must not have said much if anything worth noting.
Lets get back to the original discussion of the daily sacrifice being abolished by the armed forces.Israel needs help with its military. I believe Trump will soon send the troops in to help Israel and Israels sacrificial law will be abolished.
Going to have to be soon too,Iran is knocking at the door.Hezbollah is turning all of Syrias border towns with Israel into fortresses and Iran has just paid Hamas 30 million to find Israels missile stockpiles.
Getting hot and gonna get hotter.
While you wait for Israel to start killing sheep,Im,waiting on Trump to send in the troops.
 

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Do you seriously think that God would allow Satan and the Antichrist to desecrate His temple? What is being planned right now is the third temple in Jerusalem by unbelieving Jews, who will be blind to the fact that the Antichrist will sit in that temple and claim that he is God. This temple will indeed be destroyed, since the Abomination of Desolation polluted it. Then there will be a true pure and holy temple under God and Christ after Israel has been redeemed and restored.

As to the prophecy of Ezekiel it is so obviously under the New Covenant that no one should even question that.

EZEKIEL 36
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do
them.
28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

Enoch, Oops! I missed your posting. Still trying to adapt to these forums.

Enoch says: "This temple will indeed be destroyed, since the Abomination of Desolation polluted it. Then there will be a true pure and holy temple under God and Christ after Israel has been redeemed and restored."

Do not believe that the God we rely upon to cleanse us, cannot do something as simple cleanse a building?? Even my housekeeper can do that!

This is not the first time a temple has been desecrated. When the second temple was desecrated, it was cleansed by building an new altar, and then cleansing it by offerring a sacrifice each day for seven days. During Channukka seven candles are lighted during a 7 day observance, and then on the eighth day, the 8th candle is lighted signifiying that it was now time to re-commence the daily sacrifice for the people. The same ritual that will be used to cleanse the altar in the new temple after anti-christ desecrated it:

"25 For seven days you shall prepare daily a goat for a sin offering; also a young bull and a ram from the flock, without blemish, shall be prepared. For seven days they shall make atonement for the altar and purify it; so shall they consecrate it. When they have completed the days, it shall be that on the eighth day and onward, the priests shall offer your burnt offerings on the altar, and your peace offerings; and I will accept you,’ declares the Lord God.” Ezek 43:25 It makes a lot more sense to build a new altar, than build a whole new temple!

As for this temple being contaminated because it was built by unbelieving Jews, I seem to recall that the second temple is attributed to Cyrus, and of all people, Herod, and Edomite, offspring of Esau!!

Your suggestion that the new temple will be built during the New Covenant, I don't see that at all! Considering the detailed instructions for the temple sacrifices Ezekiel 44 etal, and the unforgiven Levites in Ezekiel 43, it is not the vision I have of the new temple. While you have mentioned the New Covenant in Ezekiel 36, starting at chapter 40, Ezekiel 40, He is being presented with a whole new vision, not of the New Covanant, but of the new temple. I have no reason to believe that the temple will be destroyed when Christ returns, which would merely be based upon silence.
 

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Well.You must not have said much if anything worth noting.
Lets get back to the original discussion of the daily sacrifice being abolished by the armed forces.Israel needs help with its military. I believe Trump will soon send the troops in to help Israel and Israels sacrificial law will be abolished.
Going to have to be soon too,Iran is knocking at the door.Hezbollah is turning all of Syrias border towns with Israel into fortresses and Iran has just paid Hamas 30 million to find Israels missile stockpiles.
Getting hot and gonna get hotter.
While you wait for Israel to start killing sheep,Im,waiting on Trump to send in the troops.

Why would I look for the anti-christ in Ezekiel, when it is already stated in
It is given in Daniel 9:27; not to mention 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 11:1-2 etc
 

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I have no reason to believe that the temple will be destroyed when Christ returns, which would merely be based upon silence.
What you seem to be forgetting is that UNBELIEVING JEWS are going to have the third temple built. And because it will become Satan's seat for 3 1/2 years it must be destroyed before the true temple of Ezekiel is built. It will be ABOMINABLE to God therefore it cannot be acceptable to God.

As to your contention that the prophecy of Ezekiel is NOT under the New Covenant, that is totally in error. Please study this prophecy carefully from the beginning to the end. Here is proof that everything in Ezekiel is under the New Covenant (even though God will have a temple and priests and Levites in Israel). We simply do not know how God will reconcile this with the New Covenant.

EZEKIEL 36 -- I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do
them.

EZEKIEL 37 -- GOD'S TABERNACLE AND SANCTUARY TO BE BUILT UNDER THE EVERLASTING COVENANT

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Please note these words carefully: ...and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
This is God saying that He will personally set His sanctuary in the midst of redeemed and restored (saved) Israel.
 

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What you seem to be forgetting is that UNBELIEVING JEWS are going to have the third temple built. And because it will become Satan's seat for 3 1/2 years it must be destroyed before the true temple of Ezekiel is built. It will be ABOMINABLE to God therefore it cannot be acceptable to God.

As to your contention that the prophecy of Ezekiel is NOT under the New Covenant, that is totally in error. Please study this prophecy carefully from the beginning to the end. Here is proof that everything in Ezekiel is under the New Covenant (even though God will have a temple and priests and Levites in Israel). We simply do not know how God will reconcile this with the New Covenant.

EZEKIEL 36 -- I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do
them.

EZEKIEL 37 -- GOD'S TABERNACLE AND SANCTUARY TO BE BUILT UNDER THE EVERLASTING COVENANT

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Please note these words carefully: ...and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
This is God saying that He will personally set His sanctuary in the midst of redeemed and restored (saved) Israel.

Enoch says: "What you seem to be forgetting is that UNBELIEVING JEWS are going to have the third temple built. And because it will become Satan's seat for 3 1/2 years it must be destroyed before the true temple of Ezekiel is built. It will be ABOMINABLE to God therefore it cannot be acceptable to God."

That doesn't make sense. Why would UNBELIEVING JEWS build a temple?? !! Of course they are BELIEVING JEWS!

They may not conform to what you might demand they believe, nevertheless they are believers in the Eternal Covenant confirmed with Israel and all his descendants FOREVER. The Covenant has never been abridged or terminated. It is an EVERLASTING Covenant. And under such Covenant, "ALL Israel will be saved; just as it is written, THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB. THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."…Romans 11:26 And what God has declared as Holy, I am going to embrace.

Enoch says >> "As to your contention that the prophecy of Ezekiel is NOT under the New Covenant, that is totally in error. Please study this prophecy carefully from the beginning to the end. Here is proof that everything in Ezekiel is under the New Covenant (even though God will have a temple and priests and Levites in Israel). We simply do not know how God will reconcile this with the New Covenant."

I said no such thing, and EVERYTHING Ezekiel prophesied has is not under the New Covenant! He talks about the New Covenant in chapter 36, but when he gets to chapter 40 he revealing an entirely new: the rebuilding of the temple, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the the New Covenant. While Israel will probably gravitate toward the New Covenant, the entire Nation of Israel is saved under the Atonement provided in the Old Covenant, and they don't even have to be a 'believer', a scenario which has carried forward to the New Testament.
 

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Enoch says: "What you seem to be forgetting is that UNBELIEVING JEWS are going to have the third temple built. And because it will become Satan's seat for 3 1/2 years it must be destroyed before the true temple of Ezekiel is built. It will be ABOMINABLE to God therefore it cannot be acceptable to God."

That doesn't make sense. Why would UNBELIEVING JEWS build a temple?? !! Of course they are BELIEVING JEWS!

They may not conform to what you might demand they believe, nevertheless they are believers in the Eternal Covenant confirmed with Israel and all his descendants FOREVER. The Covenant has never been abridged or terminated. It is an EVERLASTING Covenant. And under such Covenant, "ALL Israel will be saved; just as it is written, THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB. THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."…Romans 11:26 And what God has declared as Holy, I am going to embrace.

Enoch says >> "As to your contention that the prophecy of Ezekiel is NOT under the New Covenant, that is totally in error. Please study this prophecy carefully from the beginning to the end. Here is proof that everything in Ezekiel is under the New Covenant (even though God will have a temple and priests and Levites in Israel). We simply do not know how God will reconcile this with the New Covenant."

I said no such thing, and EVERYTHING Ezekiel prophesied has is not under the New Covenant! He talks about the New Covenant in chapter 36, but when he gets to chapter 40 he revealing an entirely new: the rebuilding of the temple, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the the New Covenant. While Israel will probably gravitate toward the New Covenant, the entire Nation of Israel is saved under the Atonement provided in the Old Covenant, and they don't even have to be a 'believer', a scenario which has carried forward to the New Testament.

You believe anyone in Israel who reject Christ and the gospel will be saved?
 

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That's what the Bible says.
Stan, Seriously, have YOU read the Bible??

No one, and I mean NO ONE will be saved without faith in Christ!!
Do you not understand John 3:18?
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 

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What you seem to be forgetting is that UNBELIEVING JEWS are going to have the third temple built. And because it will become Satan's seat for 3 1/2 years it must be destroyed before the true temple of Ezekiel is built. It will be ABOMINABLE to God therefore it cannot be acceptable to God.

As to your contention that the prophecy of Ezekiel is NOT under the New Covenant, that is totally in error. Please study this prophecy carefully from the beginning to the end. Here is proof that everything in Ezekiel is under the New Covenant (even though God will have a temple and priests and Levites in Israel). We simply do not know how God will reconcile this with the New Covenant.

EZEKIEL 36 -- I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do
them.

EZEKIEL 37 -- GOD'S TABERNACLE AND SANCTUARY TO BE BUILT UNDER THE EVERLASTING COVENANT

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Please note these words carefully: ...and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
This is God saying that He will personally set His sanctuary in the midst of redeemed and restored (saved) Israel.
Already happened, happening!
 

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Already happened, happening!
How can this be "already happening" when Israel as a whole is in UNBELIEF and there is no pure temple of God in Jerusalem? Indeed no temple.
Christians are not at liberty to play fast and loose with Bible prophecies.
 

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How can this be "already happening" when Israel as a whole is in UNBELIEF and there is no pure temple of God in Jerusalem? Indeed no temple.
Christians are not at liberty to play fast and loose with Bible prophecies.

"things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. 1 Cor 2:13
 

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That doesn't make sense. Why would UNBELIEVING JEWS build a temple?? !! Of course they are BELIEVING JEWS!
This is simply HILARIOUS. If they were believing Jews they would have no need for a rebuilt temple! They would understand that Christ brought an end to the Levitical priesthood and the temple sacrifices at the cross when He said "It is finished", and the veil in the temple was torn from top to bottom by the hand of God..

These are spiritually blind Jews in Israel who have rejected Yeshua ha Mashiach and are sincerely and foolishly waiting for their *true Messiah*.

If you don't believe me, then go to this web site from which I have quoted below and kindly educate yourself.

From Moses to the Second Temple: Only Nine Red Heifers
The Mishna teaches that up until the destruction of the Second Temple, ashes had been prepared from a total of only nine red heifers. The very first red heifer was processed by Moses himself - as the verse states, "... have them bring you a red heifer." The second was done by the prophet Ezra in the days of the First Temple, and during the entire era of the Second Temple only seven more heifers were used for ashes. This was enough to provide for the nation's needs for purification throughout all those years.

The names of all the High Priests who prepared those seven heifers during Second Temple times are recorded by the Mishna: Simon the Just and Yochanan each made two; El'yhoeini ben Hakof, Chanamel HaMitzri and Yishmael ben Pi'avi processed one heifer each. Thus, from the time that Moses received the commandment of the red heifer from the Holy One, blessed be He, until the destruction of the Second Temple, purifying ashes had been produced by the hands of these great leaders from a total of nine red heifers.

The Tenth Red Heifer Will be Prepared by the Messiah
In recounting this historical record in his commentary to the Mishna, the great Maimonides ends with the enigmatic statement: "... and the tenth red heifer will be accomplished by the king, the Messiah; may he be revealed speedily, Amen, May it be God's will."

With this amazing statement, Maimonides recounts an ancient tradition - that the tenth red heifer is associated with the Messianic era. Does this perhaps mean that the appearance of a red heifer in these waning end times is an indication, a forerunner of the appearance of the Messiah himself, who will officiate at its preparation?

If there has been no red heifer for the past 2,000 years, perhaps it is because the time was not right; Israel was far from being ready. But now... what could it mean for the times we live in, to have the means for purification so close at hand? With the words of Maimonides in mind, we cannot help but wonder and pray: If there are now red heifers... is ours the era that will need them?

The Temple Institute: The Tenth Red Heifer
 

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This is simply HILARIOUS. If they were believing Jews they would have no need for a rebuilt temple! They would understand that Christ brought an end to the Levitical priesthood and the temple sacrifices at the cross when He said "It is finished", and the veil in the temple was torn from top to bottom by the hand of God..

These are spiritually blind Jews in Israel who have rejected Yeshua ha Mashiach and are sincerely and foolishly waiting for their *true Messiah*.

If you don't believe me, then go to this web site from which I have quoted below and kindly educate yourself.

From Moses to the Second Temple: Only Nine Red Heifers
The Mishna teaches that up until the destruction of the Second Temple, ashes had been prepared from a total of only nine red heifers. The very first red heifer was processed by Moses himself - as the verse states, "... have them bring you a red heifer." The second was done by the prophet Ezra in the days of the First Temple, and during the entire era of the Second Temple only seven more heifers were used for ashes. This was enough to provide for the nation's needs for purification throughout all those years.

The names of all the High Priests who prepared those seven heifers during Second Temple times are recorded by the Mishna: Simon the Just and Yochanan each made two; El'yhoeini ben Hakof, Chanamel HaMitzri and Yishmael ben Pi'avi processed one heifer each. Thus, from the time that Moses received the commandment of the red heifer from the Holy One, blessed be He, until the destruction of the Second Temple, purifying ashes had been produced by the hands of these great leaders from a total of nine red heifers.

The Tenth Red Heifer Will be Prepared by the Messiah
In recounting this historical record in his commentary to the Mishna, the great Maimonides ends with the enigmatic statement: "... and the tenth red heifer will be accomplished by the king, the Messiah; may he be revealed speedily, Amen, May it be God's will."

With this amazing statement, Maimonides recounts an ancient tradition - that the tenth red heifer is associated with the Messianic era. Does this perhaps mean that the appearance of a red heifer in these waning end times is an indication, a forerunner of the appearance of the Messiah himself, who will officiate at its preparation?

If there has been no red heifer for the past 2,000 years, perhaps it is because the time was not right; Israel was far from being ready. But now... what could it mean for the times we live in, to have the means for purification so close at hand? With the words of Maimonides in mind, we cannot help but wonder and pray: If there are now red heifers... is ours the era that will need them?

The Temple Institute: The Tenth Red Heifer

I don't need to go to some website when I have Scripture right here in front of me.
Your problem is that you don't believe Scripture. You are faced with two declarations by God that you have not been able to resolve, because you view these two declarations as contradictory:

1. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, and he who does not believe is condemned already.

2. ALL Israel (whom you declare are unbelievers) will be saved!

Try to clear your mind of extra-biblical indoctrination, and then try to figure it out. Whenever God presents a paradox in Scripture, He does it for us because it is so important, that He wants to direct our focus upon what he is saying. Some will pass it off as mere nonsense, and choose the declaration that appeals to them. Then there are those who are determined to solve the paradox, and that's when we yield to the promise that we will be lead by the Spirit who will lead us in all truth. Think about it and see what you come up with.
 
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