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Figures.
It doesn't reconcile with coming as a child. That is why I asked.How is that?
How does your rant reconcile with becoming as a little child?
Stranger, I have carefully examined the Bible record and the descendants of Ham as given in Genesis 10:6-20. And what I have discovered is that you have a FUNDAMENTAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE CURSE OF NOAH AND TO WHOM IT WAS APPLIED.Because the curse and lack of blessing and blessing by Noah still exist upon mankind. You see it today, but don't want to admit it.
Which means that it was never God's plan that they be divided to such an extent that there rise conflict. It is not the diversity of race that Christianity brings peace to, but the conflict. Christ makes us one in Him, though we be all different. And I would venture that even within the white people there is conflict. And conflict that goes back a long long way. Like between France and Germany. France and England. England and Scotland. The Irish and just about everyone else. Even prophecy from Daniel declared that the white European nations would never cleave one to another, despite attempts to do so politically by Louis, Charlamagne, Hitler, Napoleon and several others, which brings me to this....Without a doubt the Holy Spirit can overcome the division of race. But, that is the only way that race can be overcome as a dividing factor
...a good reason methinks for Christians to stay out of politics... The separation of church and state is a godly maxim which we ignore to our peril.Yet ones race, even of a Christian, still divides. Just look at our political parties.
Stranger, I have carefully examined the Bible record and the descendants of Ham as given in Genesis 10:6-20. And what I have discovered is that you have a FUNDAMENTAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE CURSE OF NOAH AND TO WHOM IT WAS APPLIED.
The sons of Ham are listed a (1) Cush, (2) Mizraim, (3) Phut, and (4) Canaan. And believe it or not, but all their descendants were located in (a) Arabia, (b) Mesopotamia, (c) Egypt, (d) Philistia, (e) Libya, Tyre, and North Africa), and (f) Canaan. They are all presently termed as "Arabs". There were no blacks in these nations.
So here's the breakdown as found in Genesis 10:
I. CUSH
A. ARABIA
Seba (Sheba) (Yemen), Havilah (SW Arabia), Sabtah (Arabia), Raamah (Persian Gulf), Sabtecha (Persian Gulf), Sheba (Yemen), Dedan (Central Arabia)
B. MESOPOTAMIA (IRAQ)
(In the land of Shinar)
Nimrod, Babel, Erech, Accad, Calneh, Asshur, Nineveh, Rehoboth, Calah, Resen
II. MIZRAIM (EGYPT & PHILISTA)
Ludim (west of Egypt), Anamim (south of Egypt), Lehabim (possibly Libyans), Naphtuhim (south of Egypt), Pathrusim (upper Egypt), Casluhim (upper Egypt), Philistim (Philistines in Lebanon and Jordan), Caphtorim (Egypt)
III. PHUT (LIBYA, NORTH AFRICA, TYRE)
IV. CANAAN (PALESTINE)
Jebusites, Amorites, Girgasites, Hivites, Arkites, Sinites, Arvadites, Zemarites, Hamathites.
CITIES: Sidon, Heth, Gerar, Gaza, Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboim, Lasha.
What this does is totally debunks the idea that Noah's curse applied to Black Africans. What is does prove is the Noah's curse is described within the Bible, since almost all these nations were destroyed for their wickedness, idolatry, and enmity towards Israel.
Which means that it was never God's plan that they be divided to such an extent that there rise conflict. It is not the diversity of race that Christianity brings peace to, but the conflict. Christ makes us one in Him, though we be all different. And I would venture that even within the white people there is conflict. And conflict that goes back a long long way. Like between France and Germany. France and England. England and Scotland. The Irish and just about everyone else. Even prophecy from Daniel declared that the white European nations would never cleave one to another, despite attempts to do so politically by Louis, Charlamagne, Hitler, Napoleon and several others, which brings me to this....
...a good reason methinks for Christians to stay out of politics... The separation of church and state is a godly maxim which we ignore to our peril.
Why was he cursed?If it was a moot question, why did God make the races?
Yes all men are made of one blood. That doesn't take away the race question.
Yes, salvation is provided for all. That doesn't take away the race question.
Yes, the Body of Christ is made up of all races of people. That doesn't take away the race question.
If God made the races, and if God gave the prophecies concerning the races to Noah, (Gen. 9:24-27), then is not the question of race, a Godly question. Yet, as with yourself, racism is considered by all as evil.
In other words, do you believe the blessings given to Shem and Japheth? Do you believe God gave no blessing to Ham, and a certain people of Ham were cursed? And do you believe those blessings or lack thereof, and the curse have been removed?
Stranger
Why was he cursed?
Glorying in the flesh?See (Gen. 9:20-29). Instead of covering Noah, as Shem and Japheth did, he goes and blabs about it to his brothers. (Pro. 17:9)
Stranger
Glorying in the flesh?
Just wondering if you also see it this way.Why ask that. I gave you the answer.
Stranger
KJV Luke 22Where is your 'godly maxim' found?
Ironically part of that curse was infli thcted upon the descendants of Ham by the descendants of Japheth and Shem. Sadly, those descendants thought they were doing God's will by so doing... Much the same way the Catholic church thought to do God's will by burning people at the stake to give them a "taste"of hell.See (Gen. 9:20-29). Instead of covering Noah, as Shem and Japheth did, he goes and blabs about it to his brothers. (Pro. 17:9)
Stranger
my guess is you tan real good and prolly understand patois, Stranger, but i dont recall challenging your whiteness anyway, just your mithraism and your bigotry. Anyway the assertion was that i am way whiter than you, Dusseldorf white i might say, and no, no one is practicing bias on your web-toed behind bc you are white ok. Its strictly bc you are a bigot and a jerk bro, trust me. And prolly half black and a frustrated homosexual too, but i dunno there, but my guess is that is where most of the bigotry comes from? But bc you are white? hilarious. We would have been shovin you inna oven bro, no offense. I can smell the gypsy from here lolOf course, I'm white.
KJV Luke 22
25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26 But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
Ironically part of that curse was infli thcted upon the descendants of Ham by the descendants of Japheth and Shem. Sadly, those descendants thought they were doing God's will by so doing... Much the same way the Catholic church thought to do God's will by burning people at the stake to give them a "taste"of hell.
I say this in light of the Scriptures. I have shown before that all races come from the descendants of Noah...Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Shem received blessing from God. Japheth received blessing from God. Ham received no blessing and his descendants were cursed.
Yet all the world is against Shem and Japheth. They elevate the 'race of color' as if they somehow depict such glory and honor. But, who is the prince of the world?
When God places His blessing upon Shem and Japheth, is it not surprising that satan would hate and bring the world against those of their race? And is it not surprising that satan would elevate the race of Ham, whom God has cursed.
As the title I have chosen says, the race question is indeed a Godly question. Are you brave enough to consider it? Or do you fold like a plant in the hot Texas sun.
Stranger
I bet you consider Southern Europeans are not white either, or Slavic peoples for that matter also, because they carry Asian genes according to some White Supremacists.Indeed it does. Just like 1 plus one equals 2. It figures.
Stranger
Is not all of Europe White? I'm trying to understand people's perspectives here, is why I'm asking.Which means that it was never God's plan that they be divided to such an extent that there rise conflict. It is not the diversity of race that Christianity brings peace to, but the conflict. Christ makes us one in Him, though we be all different. And I would venture that even within the white people there is conflict. And conflict that goes back a long long way. Like between France and Germany. France and England. England and Scotland. The Irish and just about everyone else. Even prophecy from Daniel declared that the white European nations would never cleave one to another, despite attempts to do so politically by Louis, Charlamagne, Hitler, Napoleon and several others, which brings me to this....
...a good reason methinks for Christians to stay out of politics... The separation of church and state is a godly maxim which we ignore to our peril.