Yeah, I get that. I was just arguing from strangers perspective. Slavery in the South was predicated on the assumption that God approved of the subjugation of the black folk, based I suspect on the very same assumptions that stranger is making regarding the curse upon Ham and his descendants.
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Except there is a vast difference between forced submission and being used as cattle, bred like pedigree bulls.... And voluntary servitude.
Are you a slave of God, or not? Are you bought and paid for? How about God? Does that make Him a slave Master? Owner?
Better not tell the Southern Poverty Law Center or God will be on the 'hate list'.
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That is simply Fake News. You should personally check out all the nations descended from Ham AS STATED IN THE BIBLE (and as I have already clarified, and you refuse to believe it). I do not have an axe to grind, and we are to rightly divide the Word of Truth.
The Bible does not really tell us from where many nations and ethnic groups descended although we know that they all came through the sons of Noah. For example, we have no idea about those from the Far East (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc.) It is the same for Africa (other than North Africa).
If a person is a Christian there should be no 'race question' we are equal in God's eyes as we should be in each others.
I think "race" was made to always exist, (quite obviously) and that we will always be aware of it. (a reality of life) We ARE different, and that is how God made us. But, it is what we each do with that realism that I imagine God cares about.
I once read that the earth from which God fashioned Adam was made up of a mix of colours and that's why there are so many different tones of skin colour.
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Oh really. You say now, 'the Bible does not really tell us'. But before you were adamant that you showed that Scripture shows the descendants of Ham were not black Africans. See post #(56).
Who is 'fake news' now?
You now want to plead the Bible as ignorant of these peoples that came from Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Admit it. You bought into the gospel of the world. Thus you hate the truth concerning this issue. Like most other Christians. Now you are crawfishin.
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So why did God choose the Jews? Why did God not allow Paul to go to Asia and instead send him to Europe? (Acts 16:6-10) I know. Just don't read it. Better yet, find a Bible that has taken it out. God wouldn't do that...cause we are equal...right?
And, by the way, what does equality have to do with it? Are you saying on the basis of 'equality' you reject the prophecies of Noah concerning Shem, Ham, and Japheth?
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So, Noah spoke out of turn. God was not in what Noah said. Noah just needed to understand that we are all different. Foolish him. After all, he was probably still hung over. What does God care what he said?
Stranger
The funny thing about racism is that it can back fire. While white supremacists such as yourself believe that they are superior to blacks, the Chinese and Japanese believe that westerners are barbarians and that they are superior to them. The evidence is all around us.
There are probably more Japanese vehicles in North America than American cars, and almost all the jobs and production facilities of America are now in China (who holds a huge American debt load). When you walk into any store, the goods are primarily from China or Asia. Also Islam is winning against the West because Western politicians were too stupid to recognize what Jihad means. So what does that tell you?
Good didn't choose the Jews... He chose Abraham. And the reason was to use him, his descendants, as a vehicle through which He could
- Reveal to the world His true character and
- Bring forth the Messiah.
A slave because I chose to be, I'm no Calvinist who believe God enslaves people against their will. God's redemption was emancipation from slavery to sin.
Of course. But only in the South as far as I know was the Bible used to justify it, as you are now doing.
(Deut. 7:6) "For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself. above all people that are upon the face of the earth."
Did you get all that. "above all people". What a racist God is. He places the Jews above all others. What a bigot.
(Acts 16:6-10) "...and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia....they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not....a vision appeared to Paul...a man of Macedonia...saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us...immediately we endeavoured to go...gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them."
Thus Europe was Chrsitainized. And the other becomes the 'isms' of many false beleifs.
Stranger
See. You're so eat up with the worlds gospel that you deny the Scriptures I gave you. You were not emancipated. You changed slave owners.
How nauseating is slave boasting of his independence from his master.
Stranger
Well, you don't know much about it, as your other posts already show. The Bible is not used to prove slavery. The Bible cannot be used to disprove slavery which is what you and others try to do.
Stranger
That is a very myopic view of Christian history, although the Catholics on the forum would run with it. Europe was converted through the endeavours of numerous evangelists, many of them Gaelic Christians of Galatia who carried the gospel to their distant relations across northern Italy, Southern France, and founded Celtic Christianity in Britain.
Those isms you refer to are merely the lies put out by Rome to condemn those millions of Asian converts (and many European) who refused to surrender to the political church in Rome.
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