Ezekiel 38 -- ANOTHER TOPIC HIJACKED BY "christians" (small "c")

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Bobby Jo

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That my dear friend is very applicable to you ...

Did you not want to choose which "three more ... and a fourth" from the list I provided? Are you so afraid of the TRUTH that you run?

539 - 530 Cyrus the Great
530 - 522 Cambyses
522 - 486 Darius I (Hystaspes)
486 - 465 Xerxes
465 - 423 Artaxerxes I
423 Xerxes II - few weeks
423 Sogdianus - six months
423 - 404 Darius II
404 - 359 Artaxerxes II
359 - 338 Artaxerxes III (Ochus)
338 Arses
338 - 330 Darius III (Codomanus)

Hide me mommy, i'm afraid ...
Bobby Jo


To All,
Liars disobey the angel's instructions in Dan. 12:4 & 9, and then won't explain why their LIES fail BOTH Scripture and History. They really have no choice but to slander than to answer. -- The sign of a true christian (small "c")! :)

Bobby Jo
 
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Anyone who slanders GOD's Chosen SHOULD be THROWN OFF THIS FORUM. Quote BJ

Jesus said the Jews belong to the synagogue of Satan and they rejected Him, so they are to be slaughtered.
Is Jesus not eligible to post here?

This nonsense about who is the real Israel, just comes from those who want the Lord to whisk them off to heaven, while the existing fake Israel gets their comeuppance and is eventually redeemed. The Bible says nothing of the sort.
Where confusion and misunderstanding comes in, is the provable fact of the ten Northern tribe descendants being the people who have mainly accepted Christianity, as Jesus' mission did successfully achieve. Matthew 15:24
There is only ONE people of God: those who have accepted the Atoning sacrifice of Jesus and keep His Commandments. Descendants of Jacob or not.
 

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Did you not want to choose which "three more ... and a fourth" from the list I provided? Are you so afraid of the TRUTH that you run?

539 - 530 Cyrus the Great
530 - 522 Cambyses
522 - 486 Darius I (Hystaspes)
486 - 465 Xerxes
465 - 423 Artaxerxes I
423 Xerxes II - few weeks
423 Sogdianus - six months
423 - 404 Darius II
404 - 359 Artaxerxes II
359 - 338 Artaxerxes III (Ochus)
338 Arses
338 - 330 Darius III (Codomanus)

Hide me mommy, i'm afraid ...
Bobby Jo


To All,
Liars disobey the angel's instructions in Dan. 12:4 & 9, and then won't explain why their LIES fail BOTH Scripture and History. They really have no choice but to slander than to answer. -- The sign of a true christian (small "c")! :)

Bobby Jo

My poor deluded protagonist, you are afraid of exposing the lies that you tell by not answering the question that I have posed for you over the past couple of week now. Rather you want me to repeat the same lies that were around over ten years ago on another prophecy discussion web site, now defunct, presented by Da Da on that forum. which were wrong then as you understanding is just as wrong today.

Answer my question otherwise it is you who tells lies based on half baked truths and evidence.

I would suggest that you have no understanding as to what is presently occurring and you are telling people to look at this sign or that sign, which Christ forbade his disciples to do but to focus on Him Alone and to trust Him.

When you can honestly answer my question, then perhaps I may be interested in continuing this conversation.

Shalom
 

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Daniel 11:2 “And now I will show you the truth. Behold, three more kings shall arise in Persia; and a fourth shall be far richer than all of them; and when he has become strong through his riches, he shall stir up all against the kingdom of Greece.

  1. 539 - 530 Cyrus the Great
  2. 530 - 522 Cambyses
  3. 522 - 486 Darius I (Hystaspes)
  4. 486 - 465 Xerxes
  5. 465 - 423 Artaxerxes I
  6. 423 Xerxes II - few weeks
  7. 423 Sogdianus - six months
  8. 423 - 404 Darius II
  9. 404 - 359 Artaxerxes II
  10. 359 - 338 Artaxerxes III (Ochus)
  11. 338 Arses
  12. 338 - 330 Darius III (Codomanus)

Pick your "three" and a "fourth".



One thing nice about "pudding" is that the Proof is in the PUDDING. But apparently you don't like "pudding" because you won't answer the question. And that's because -- you're dishonest.


And one more thing, -- you say "Shalom" --, but it's like so many of your other misrepresentations,
Bobby Jo


And a note TO ALL,
If ANYONE can pick the "three more ... and a fourth" from the above list, -- I'd be more than happy to have that discussion. But beware, the liars would love to deceive you, so choose wisely. Choose the TRUTH, not the lies.

Bobby Jo
 
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... Jesus said the Jews belong to the synagogue of Satan and they rejected Him, so they are to be slaughtered.
Is Jesus not eligible to post here?
...

Jesus can judge within his Jews, but Christians ARE NOT to judge outside the church. Furthermore, GOD has set the Jews aside for HIS own purpose, and they WILL be "completed" as GOD brings events into existence.

Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who curses you I will curse; and by you all the families of the earth shall bless themselves.”

So feel free to join @Davy, and share his "reward".


Enjoy! :)
Bobby Jo
 

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Davy, please let us resolve my question before you run off and muddy the waters with you thoughts.

Shalom

The only one here trying to muddy things is you. I showed you from Apostle Paul at the end of Galatians 3 about Abraham's inheritance being only in Christ Jesus, and now you want to muddy that clear water.
 

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Jesus can judge within his Jews, but Christians ARE NOT to judge outside the church. Furthermore, GOD has set the Jews aside for HIS own purpose, and they WILL be "completed" as GOD brings events into existence.

Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who curses you I will curse; and by you all the families of the earth shall bless themselves.”

So feel free to join @Davy, and share his "reward".

Enjoy! :)
Bobby Jo

I keep seeing Jews trying to apply that Gen.12:3 idea only to the nation state of Israel in the middle east today that the United Nations setup. But in reality, it applied to ALL TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL, and especially to the inheritance promises God first gave to Abraham. (The Jews only made up 1/3 of the children of Israel. That name did not apply to the northern ten tribes which God gave one of the tribe of Ephraim to rule over as "king of Israel" in the northern lands. See 1 Kings 11 forward.)

Here is the false prophet Balaam who was supposed to curse Israel, but instead was turned to speak good by God's Hand:

Num 24:5-9
5 How goodly are thy tents, O Jacob, and thy tabernacles, O Israel!
6 As the valleys are they spread forth, as gardens by the river's side, as the trees of lign aloes which the LORD hath planted, and as cedar trees beside the waters.
7 He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted.

8 God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.
9 He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion: who shall stir him up? Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee.
KJV


Verse 7 is a symbolic link to the "fruitful bough by a well" prophecy for Joseph's seed for the last days per Genesis 49:22-26.

Verse 8 is about God's promise to Abraham that his seed would rule the gates of his enemies, i.e., greatest military power.

Verse 7 is also about king David's house, that it would be perpetual and never end. God speaking of king David and his perpetual house and throne:

Ps 89:27-37
27 Also I will make him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.
28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and My covenant shall stand fast with him.
29 His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven.

30 If his children forsake My law, and walk not in My judgments;
31 If they break My statutes, and keep not My commandments;
32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.
33 Nevertheless My lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer My faithfulness to fail.
34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

35 Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.
36 His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as the sun before me.
37 It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah.
KJV

Can all that be applied to the Jews today??? No! Why?

Because in the nation state of Israel today, there is NO king of the House of David sitting upon David's throne! Yet God said He promised one of David's seed would sit upon it perpetually, established like the sun and moon. Has the sun and moon ever ended in this world? Nope! Thus David's throne is still established on earth today, but where? Who knows? Not in the nation state in the middle east called Israel today, because that is only a small remnant of Jews that have returned, not all 12 tribes.

Nor does the state of Israel in the holy land have the greatest military power on earth, which was another of God's promises to Abraham. Who does? I shouldn't have to answer that. It's not the nation state of Israel.

And what areas on the earth have been established in the best crop producing lands on the earth, and grows much more food than it could ever consume, and sends a lot of grain to the nations, etc.? I shouldn't need to answer that either.

It's like Apostle Paul said, those in Christ Jesus have become the children of Abraham, and inherit the promises with Abraham (Galatians 3).
 
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I keep seeing Jews trying to apply that Gen.12:3 idea ...

Just remember you were forewarned, -- so when GOD curses you, your job, your family, and everything you touch --, you were warned.

Have a nice day,
Bobby Jo
 

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Just remember you were forewarned, -- so when GOD curses you, your job, your family, and everything you touch --, you were warned.

Have a nice day,
Bobby Jo

You are rebellious and haughty. You just don't get it! What you're talking about actually applies to CHRIST'S CHURCH where the majority of the seed of Israel has been established today!!! There are many, many more Israelites of the seed of the lost ten tribes that are NOT known as Jews, and those lost Israelites make up much of the Christian Nations and Christ's Church today, and that is one of the many things you are completely ignorant of!

Thus your cursing me WILL... turn back upon you! You can bet on it. Get ready, it's coming!
 

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You are rebellious and haughty. ...
... and you're less than intelligent (the exact word escapes me right now ...).

Enjoy what you're sowing, and expect what you'll reap.

Whew,
Bobby Jo
 
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The only one here trying to muddy things is you. I showed you from Apostle Paul at the end of Galatians 3 about Abraham's inheritance being only in Christ Jesus, and now you want to muddy that clear water.

Davy, what you are presenting is that the inheritance is now only through our faith in Jesus Christ, just as Abraham believed and it was countered to him as righteousness.

If Abraham's and our inheritance is the same promise, then what does God promise Abraham as his inheritance that Abraham must go towards and be shown by God?

Shalom
 

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Davy, what you are presenting is that the inheritance is now only through our faith in Jesus Christ, just as Abraham believed and it was countered to him as righteousness.

That's right, and that is what is written, like Apostle Paul said...

Gal 3:29
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
KJV


Nothing more need be said.
 

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That's right, and that is what is written, like Apostle Paul said...

Gal 3:29
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
KJV


Nothing more need be said.

But you have not answered my question as to what Abraham and his descendants are to inherit? What were they promised in Gen_12:1?
 

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@Davy & @Jay Ross

This topic is for Ezekiel 38 "unwalled villages". If you wish to discuss other issues, please do so elsewhere.

Thanks
 
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So back to the Topic:

Apparently the U.S. is considering re-detaining the Iranian tanker recently released by British courts in Gibraltar. This wouldn't seem to match the Daniel 11:40 "thrust at" which the Scriptures depict, so it would appear that either this could be a stepping stone to increasing tensions, or possibly not.

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But you have not answered my question as to what Abraham and his descendants are to inherit? What were they promised in Gen_12:1?

I've covered that several times on the forum. God's Birthright inheritance is not shown only with Abraham either. It continued through Isaac, then Jacob who was called Israel, then Joseph, and then to Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, where it still rests today. And the royal sceptre rule and care of God's law is still with Judah today, as promised, and is also a part of that Birthright inheritance first given through Abraham.

And Apostle Paul summed up who is to inherit with Abraham and why...

Gal 3:7-9
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, "In thee shall all nations be blessed."
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

KJV

Gal 3:26-29
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

KJV

Now if you disagree with Apostle Paul on that, then you don't really know what a true Christian is, and when you continually try to bring the idea of born seed into it that shows you are following the orthodox tenets of the Jew's religion, Judaism, which is against Christ Jesus.
 

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Is "INTERNATIONAL WATERS" an epiphany? Is THIS what Ezekiel was told? Do SAILORS have WALLS or are they UNWALLED ships in the oceans? Are Merchant SAILORS "pirates" seizing other vessels, or are they "quietly" transporting goods (oil in this case)? And don't they typically DWELL SECURELY when transiting the oceans? And I don't believe that their ships have BARS OR GATES.

Who could have conceived that Ezekiel and today's events could converge in the Straits of Hormuz?!? Certainly not me, until moments ago ...

Please note that ships that do not have "walls" etc., sink to the bottom of the ocean because they have no floatation capacity and so the topic was off the subject matter as noted in the title of Ezekiel 38 - the land of unwalled villages. The other thing to note is that the author of the OP made no attempt to define the time period that the Prophecy in Ez_38 is applicable to. In any case the author of the OP then began talking about the book of Daniel in post #3 as if that was on topic as well.

Please make up your mind as to what the topic really is about.
 

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I've covered that several times on the forum. God's Birthright inheritance is not shown only with Abraham either. It continued through Isaac, then Jacob who was called Israel, then Joseph, and then to Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, where it still rests today. And the royal sceptre rule and care of the God's law is still with Judah today, as promised, and is also a part of that Birthright inheritance first given through Abraham

Then what is that birth right inheritance first given to Abraham?

In any case the topic of the inheritance of the Saint of God is a theme that is discussed in both the OT and the NT. So simply answer my question and stop dancing around like Bobby Jo,
 
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