Estimated Dates of the Events of the 1 Year Great Tribulation of the Earth

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There's a problem when a hypothesis defies the Rev. 13:5 "42 months", and there's no way to validate any postulations until AFTER the purported fulfillment.

In fact, Scripture not only directly refutes the basis premise, but also indirectly provides a completely different time-line.


Perhaps you should consider a dart-board. In your case it might be as accurate or more accurate.
Bobby Jo

PS As far as your accusing those who do not receive your assertions, -- let me be perfectly clear: YOU ARE A FALSE PROPHET, and Deut. 18:22 says you have NO Power. :)

The 42 prophetic months was already fulfilled as 1,260 literal days of papal persecution. You err.
 

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Is that so? Have you cured HIV and given sight to the blind? Fascinating. I'm already waiting to receive the anointing. After believing in Yeshuah and coming into perfect obedience to the Torah then the anointing is granted. Obeying includes doing good works to the poor. We are also required to get rid of or burn any paper money and fiat currency to remove the mark of the beast, for until you remove every last penny you cannot receive the anointing. You must also lower yourself by going into a fast without food and water before receiving the anointing.

Is there anything TRUE which this person espouses? It appears that EVERYTHING this person says is UNTRUE. As such we know that satan is the father of lies, -- so exactly what should we expect if this person is of his "father"?!?


Wolves in sheep's clothing,
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Is that so? Have you cured HIV and given sight to the blind? Fascinating. I'm already waiting to receive the anointing. After believing in Yeshuah and coming into perfect obedience to the Torah then the anointing is granted. Obeying includes doing good works to the poor. We are also required to get rid of or burn any paper money and fiat currency to remove the mark of the beast, for until you remove every last penny you cannot receive the anointing. You must also lower yourself by going into a fast without food and water before receiving the anointing.

No, a broken back that caused parallelization below the waist.

The way you are going about getting anointed is not the scriptural way, so you obeying Torah, while good, is not enough. Our righteousness is as filthy rags.
 

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Is there anything TRUE which this person espouses? It appears that EVERYTHING this person says is UNTRUE. As such we know that satan is the father of lies, -- so exactly what should we expect if this person is of his "father"?!?


Wolves in sheep's clothing,
Bobby Jo

By opposing what I'm saying you are affirming the following:

1. We can disobey the Torah.
2. We don't have to do good works.
3. We don't have to lower ourselves.
4. Paper money and fiat currency is righteous money.

...And somehow I'm the one teaching lies. Stupid.
 

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No, a broken back that caused parallelization below the waist.

The way you are going about getting anointed is not the scriptural way, so you obeying Torah, while good, is not enough. Our righteousness is as filthy rags.

Obedience to the Torah is required per mandate of the Messiah himself, "whoever sets aside the least of these commands will be called least in the kingdom of the heavens", for the Messiah will rule the earth according to the Torah.
 

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By opposing what I'm saying you are affirming the following:

1. We can disobey the Torah.
2. We don't have to do good works.
3. We don't have to lower ourselves.
4. Paper money and fiat currency is righteous money.

...And somehow I'm the one teaching lies. Stupid.

Half truths are half lies. And you're over half.

Bobby Jo
 
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By opposing what I'm saying you are affirming the following:

1. We can disobey the Torah.
2. We don't have to do good works.
3. We don't have to lower ourselves.
4. Paper money and fiat currency is righteous money.

...And somehow I'm the one teaching lies. Stupid.

You have the pompous zeal of a 32 year old, but won't listen to an anointed one that has been so for longer than you have been alive. I'm trying to help you. If you were smart, you would have asked what was scriptural. Right now you are keeping Torah with a sin nature. Why? Because you want to raise your mother from the dead. It is not because you love God. You just want His power. Again, that is just like Simon the Sorcerer. I'm here if you ever humble yourself and truly want to live for God. And repent of your arrogance.
 
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Then continue believing in your lie only to soon find out that everything you believed was a lie, and back when you had the chance to learn the truth, you were stubborn and refused to hear it. I am exhausted dealing with you stubborn people all over the internet for years, it is high time for you people to be made to drink the cup of the wrath of God, for your stubbornness and refusal to be obey the Torah.
Sounds like you should take a break!

Much love!
 
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well, so you say, but imo that would be in direct violation of
Ezekiel 18:20 Lexicon: "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.
Ezekiel 18:20

however, Christ died for my sins, dont get me wrong ok.
I killed Emmanuel when i founded the world, is my current understanding

I kind of don't think the Lex quote is speaking about THE "Son" but, more like an earthly one...? And, God had no iniquity so
So for what it’s worth while I find the concept contained in your post their reprehensible, and I would never serve a God like that, what matters to you is really your state after you literally die, right? And about that I don’t know anything. We know the spirit returned back to God who gave it, yes? So it could just be that we are currently identifying with the wrong part of our “selves” maybe?

"So for what it’s worth while I find the concept contained in your post their reprehensible, <--- not at all understanding this! and I would never serve a God like that, what matters to you is really your state after you literally die, right?<--- No! what matters to me is to remain in growth and understanding and getting about the business of exhibiting the fruit of The Spirit! And about that I don’t know anything.<---Ahh, we agree ;)
We know the spirit returned back to God who gave it, yes?
Yes, the Spirit always goes back to God who gave it, not only Christ but all who are followers and believers and have faith in Him. So it could just be that we are currently identifying with the wrong part of our “selves” maybe?" <---I do not "identify" myself by anything other than Christ who lives in me. I have had enough decades of tasting what this world has to offer and it always, always came up empty. My life is very, very different than it once was. My focus is on Jesus and serving others through Him, not what I can get out of Him! Although, He IS my provider and knows my needs before I ask Him and He IS the lover of my soul which helps me to not get lonely.
 
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You have the pompous zeal of a 32 year old, but won't listen to an anointed one that has been so for longer than you have been alive. I'm trying to help you. If you were smart, you would have asked what was scriptural. Right now you are keeping Torah with a sin nature. Why? Because you want to raise your mother from the dead. It is not because you love God. You just want His power. Again, that is just like Simon the Sorcerer. I'm here if you ever humble yourself and truly want to live for God. And repent of your arrogance.

I find it comical that you think I came to obey the entire Torah and get rid of paper money and fiat currency just to resurrect my grandmother from the dead. Haha. Certainly it is a desire in my heart, and whether God grants me this desire or not, is up to him. But no, I didn't come all this way to resurrect my grandmother that died over a decade ago. The Messiah instructed that we obey the Torah, so I obey the Torah. If you were smart, you would also obey the Torah. Obeying the Torah is not arrogance, it is obedience. I desire to actually be saved, so that is why I go to great lengths to insure that I am in perfect obedience of all the commands of God, hence "be perfect, just as the Father is perfect". I advise you do this same, and stop deceiving yourself into believing that you don't have to obey the Torah, and that somehow you've attained the anointing while in your continual torahlessness. You are a false anointed one and woman of torahlessness. You remind me of those megachurch pastors who pray for someone's cold to go away, and when it does through ordinary circumstances, they claim that a miracle happened and that God listens to their prayers. They make themselves believe that they have power, just like those who speak in fake tongues, speaking jibberish. Idiots.
 

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Your own words prove that you are not in the truth, because you believe that we are no longer required to obey the commands of the Torah. That's precisely one way how a false prophet is tested, whether he promulgates obedience to the commands of the Torah, or promulgates disobedience to the commands of the Torah. You are like the latter.

"we are no longer required to obey the commands of the Torah." You are not a JEW! And "we" were NEVER invited to the OT Laws. What the heck...do you even know why Jesus had to come down to this earth to die??? Do you know there is a NEW Covenant? What did He accomplish in your life?
 
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There is no "going out from under the anointing". If you sin after receiving the anointing there is no forgiveness of sins.

Such grace!

See 2 Timothy 2:1, Colossians 4:6.

Is that so? Have you cured HIV and given sight to the blind? Fascinating. I'm already waiting to receive the anointing. After believing in Yeshuah and coming into perfect obedience to the Torah then the anointing is granted. Obeying includes doing good works to the poor. We are also required to get rid of or burn any paper money and fiat currency to remove the mark of the beast, for until you remove every last penny you cannot receive the anointing. You must also lower yourself by going into a fast without food and water before receiving the anointing.

No one can keep the law perfectly, Galatians 3:22, Galatians 6:13.

You MISREPRESENT! :)

Wolves in sheep's clothing,
Bobby Jo

Not even in sheep's clothing.

Obviously not a sheep.

By opposing what I'm saying you are affirming the following:

1. We can disobey the Torah.
2. We don't have to do good works.
3. We don't have to lower ourselves.
4. Paper money and fiat currency is righteous money.

...And somehow I'm the one teaching lies. Stupid.

I see that this teaching is conducive to the mark of the Beast being received by many later on. For that mark will most likely be a microchip placed on the hand or forehead that you will not be able to buy or sell without. It will very likely contain all of your banking information. Paranoia about real money (such as you have) will surely lead people in government to implement the computerized money that is prophesied about.

@gaviria.christian, you are hastening the time in which the Antichrist's kingdom will be able to come and have reign on the earth.
 
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"we are no longer required to obey the commands of the Torah." You are not a JEW! And "we" were NEVER invited to the OT Laws. What the heck...do you even know why Jesus had to come down to this earth to die??? Do you know there is a NEW Covenant? What did He accomplish in your life?

The Messiah said, "I did not come to abolish the Torah" and "it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one jot or one tittle of the Torah to pass away". The Torah is still binding. You have been deceived.
 

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Such grace!

See 2 Timothy 2:1, Colossians 4:6.



No one can keep the law perfectly, Galatians 3:22, Galatians 6:13.



Not even in sheep's clothing.

Obviously not a sheep.



I see that this teaching is conducive to the mark of the Beast being received by many later on. For that mark will most likely be a microchip placed on the hand or forehead that you will not be able to but or sell without. It will very likely contain all of your banking information. Paranoia about real money (such as you have) will surely lead people in government to implement the computerized money that is prophesied about.

@gaviria.christian, you are hastening the time in which the Antichrist's kingdom will be able to come and have reign on the earth.

Paper money and fiat currency is the mark of the beast, because it breaks the command of the Torah, "you shall have righteous balances and weights". I discuss this in depth in my bible study The Identity of the Beast of Revelation, the Antichrist, the Prostitute of Babylon, the Mark of the Beast, and the Meaning of 666 | Wisdom of God
 

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The point is, what right did Paul have for speaking against Peter for doing the same thing Paul did himself?
Hi CL,

That's if it was the same thing. I get the idea that Paul would modify his behavior to suit those he was evangelizing, while Peter changed his behavior for personal reasons.

The Jews in Jerusalem with James were very zealous to keep the Law, and I'm thinking Peter knew that.

Timothy was circumcised so that the unsaved wouldn't have a problem with it. Titus was not circumcised just to suit the saved who had a problem with it.

That's my take, anyway!

Much love!
 
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No, observing matters of Torah that are no longer required under the new covenant is "judaizing", such as circumcision or feasts, but observing matters of Torah that are indeed required to be observed is obedience. You on the other hand are the other extreme of judaizing, and it is complete torahlessness, which is worse.
I've been reading all your posts in this thread. You continue to divide the Law into the part you think you must keep and the part you think you don't need to keep.

Where do you find taught in Scripture that you can just section the Law this way, considering that the Bible says straight out that if you break one, you break all, being a lawbreaker?

Who has the right to declare some Law valid, and other Law invalid?

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Upholding the Torah through love does not exclude the commands of the Torah, it includes them. If you say you love God, but then disobey, "you shall bind my words in your doorposts", you are no longer in love towards God, because you have disobeyed God.
As a new creation in Christ, and having been born gentile, I was never commanded to tie the Scripture to my forehead. In my love for God, I tend to devour His Book. I think about Him, and His Book, like, all the time. But He never told me to tie things to my head.

Much love!
 
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