Should women teach the bible?

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Helen

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What if the woman has the gift of prophecy, while in services...shall she just hold it in?

Which would then be saying in fact..'Silly God, He got it all wrong in giving her a word to share, why didn't He know better..'

So, anyone answering your question with a ' Yes ' ...is showing just how arrogant they are, in believing that even God makes mistakes, and does not know as much as he the man knows, that the woman should not prophesy! :D
 
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Which would then be saying in fact..'Silly God, He got it all wrong in giving her a word to share, why didn't He know better..'

So, anyone answering your question with a ' Yes ' ...is showing just how arrogant they are, in believing that even God makes mistakes, and does not know as much as he the man knows, that the woman should not prophesy! :D
No, answering with a Yes means we know God does not contradict himself. I do not believe God actually gives women things to teach in a mixed setting because His Word does not allow for it and God does not lie. If they have something to say it is from their own wisdom and not of GOd.
 

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I do not believe God actually gives women things to teach in a mixed setting because His Word does not allow for it and God does not lie.


You are free to believe what you like...nevertheless it still does not make it truth. You are still saying that God doesn't know what He's doing...but, ...you do!!! :eek:
 

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Rom 16:3-5: - 3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus, 4 who risked their own necks for my life, to whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles. 5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house.

Acts 18:26: - 26 So he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Aquila and Priscilla heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately.​

It is wrong for a women to teach men about the things of God, because a man should also search out these things for himself. The sin of women teaching men lies with the men and not with the women.

So often today, it is the women who we find in churches working in God's fields of harvest as the men are nowhere to be found except for those who exalt themselves in being above all others.

Sadly it is the men, although not a definite rule, who are dominate in bringing wrong teaching into the church leading many astray, because of their deceptive hearts.

It is often a "power" game to these men in quenching the spirit of God from freely flowing among all of the members of the congregation in the assembled meeting to worship God.

Shalom
 
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I think you are wrong but you are entitled to your opinions. If women can be apostles, prophets and evangelists then why discount them as preachers and teachers if they have a gift from God?

This is a discussion you will find on all Christian forums and whatever you have said I have seen before but still believe that God enables women in the same way he does men.

Obviously not all women are chosen just as not all men are chosen - but from my experience that has never stopped a man from preaching.
 

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So you are just going to ignore Paul's writings? Are they not the Word of God?
What is his writings? If God created female for male and male for female and created offspring through them, why can't the Lord use a woman to convert male and female, young and old, small and big into children of God and preach the gospel..what about those women running from president, what are they doing behind a podium...since when is the holy spirit bias and prejudice? If a woman is filled with the holy spirit, why should she be silent. That's dumb, you know that..to silent someone with the truth just because she is a woman...that's really dumb...you rather the whole world perish then let a woman with the holy spirit and fire of God proceeding out of her mouth to be silent cause she is a " woman"...wow talk about being bais and prejudice!!!
 
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You should never form a doctrine on this passage alone since it is likely not original to Scripture.
As I think @Jenniferdiana3637 mentioned, rejecting those that Christ sends, means rejecting Him, are you OK with that, everything changed with Christs Resurrection, teh OT was written in stone the NT

Luk_6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Just look at how many times the heart is mentioned in the NT...
 
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As I think @Jenniferdiana3637 mentioned, rejecting those that Christ sends, means rejecting Him, are you OK with that, everything changed with Christs Resurrection, teh OT was written in stone the NT

Luk_6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Just look at how many times the heart is mentioned in the NT...
But they did it to Jesus too!!!Jesus-and-pharisees-e1471275484259.jpg
 
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As I think @Jenniferdiana3637 mentioned, rejecting those that Christ sends, means rejecting Him, are you OK with that, everything changed with Christs Resurrection, teh OT was written in stone the NT
Here is the faulty assumption, that Christ is sending them in that moment. That is something you are presuming without cause.
 

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What is his writings? If God created female for male and male for female and created offspring through them, why can't the Lord use a woman to convert male and female, young and old, small and big into children of God and preach the gospel..what about those women running from president, what are they doing behind a podium...since when is the holy spirit bias and prejudice? If a woman is filled with the holy spirit, why should she be silent. That's dumb, you know that..to silent someone with the truth just because she is a woman...that's really dumb...you rather the whole world perish then let a woman with the holy spirit and fire of God proceeding out of her mouth to be silent cause she is a " woman"...wow talk about being bais and prejudice!!!
Do you agree or disagree that the Bible says "I do not permit a woman to teach" or to have authority over a man?
 

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If women can be apostles, prophets and evangelists then why discount them as preachers and teachers if they have a gift from God?
I don't discount that, the Bible discounts that.

This is a discussion you will find on all Christian forums and whatever you have said I have seen before but still believe that God enables women in the same way he does men.
I do not believe men and women are enabled the same way. That is not found in Scripture.
 

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Here is the faulty assumption, that Christ is sending them in that moment. That is something you are presuming without cause.
No, I know Christ you know the bible, the bible is not God neither is it Christ, the reason for so much ignorance is too much study and not enough Jesus. I wonder how many times im going to be posting that. Christ will send whom He chooses, and God forbid that you should reject whom He sends.

Luk_9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

But stand as you please.
 
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No, I know Christ you know the bible, the bible is not God neither is it Christ, the reason for so much ignorance is too much study and not enough Jesus. I wonder how many times im going to be posting that. Christ will send whom He chooses, and God forbid that you should reject whom He sends.
This is about the most ignorant and dangerous statement I have ever read.
 

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No, I know Christ you know the bible, the bible is not God neither is it Christ, the reason for so much ignorance is too much study and not enough Jesus. I wonder how many times im going to be posting that. Christ will send whom He chooses, and God forbid that you should reject whom He sends.

Luk_9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

But stand as you please.
Oh Boya! yet you quote scripture..... All scripture is God breathed . What is the breath of God? It is the Holy Spirit.

John 20:21
Jesus Appears to the Disciples
…21Again Jesus said to them, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so also I am sending you.” 22When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is withheld.”…

2 Timothy 3:
All Scripture is God-Breathed
…15From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.…

Are you saying a different Spirit worked when the the scriptures were penned? REALLY?
2 Peter 1:21
Eyewitnesses of His Majesty
…20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. 21For no prophecy was ever brought about through human initiative, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

I do not know what you have been drinking or eating for that matter but you are not healthy concerning your beliefs. All scripture is one with God .
 

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One of the over-arching principles throughout the Bible, is the often explicit and unambiguous principle of man’s authority over woman. Beginning from the point of creation, and on through the institution of the Levitical priesthood, and the era of the Judges, Monarchy and Apostles, one is obligated to recognize the hierarchal precedence that man has over the woman. And the rare exceptions where a woman may have held authority for a brief time or offered instruction, does not by any means, justifiably constitute the rule.

But, it goes without saying, that this is not a relationship or hierarchy of oppression, abuse, or even superiority in competence and/or standing with God. For simply, as a child may be wiser than his parents, as a student may be more adept than his master, or as a civilian may be more upstanding than a police officer or the government, this does not give the one under another’s authority the right to challenge or usurp that hierarchy. And on the converse, the one holding the superior position is incumbently required to respect, nurture, instruct, protect, and to do all in the best interest of those under their responsibility. And in the case of governmental or familial relationships, the one in authority is obligated to give one’s life for those under their responsibility. Having authority is a responsibility, not a privilege or entitlement.

The following Biblical verses, although having various contexts and precepts, comprehensively address the relationship that is intended to exist between man and woman. Regardless of the specific circumstance of each pericope, one should begin to appreciate how scripture collectively, holds to the view of man’s hierarchal authority over women. In that, it would be extremely precarious for anyone to attempt to defy this over-arching theme, based on a few, implicit, isolated and exceptional verses.

Genesis 2:18, 23
2:18. The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him." … 23. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman, 'for she was taken out of man."

Genesis 3:16
16. To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."

1 Timothy 2:11-14
2:11. A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

1 Cor. 14:34-38
14:34. As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. … for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. 37. If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. 38. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored.

1 Corinthians 11:3, 7-10, 16
11:3. Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. … 9. neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. 16. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice-- nor do the churches of God.

1 Peter 3:1-6
3:1. Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, … 5. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, 6. like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master.

Eph. 5:21-24
5: 22. Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Colossians 3:18
3:18. Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

Tit. 2:4-5
2:4. Then they can train the younger women to love their husbands and children, 5. to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

1 Tim. 3:2-12
2. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, … 8. Deacons, likewise, are to be men worthy of respect, sincere… 11. In the same way, their wives are to be women worthy of respect… 12. A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.

Tit. 1:6
1:6. An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient

Numbers 3:1-13
3:3. Those were the names of Aaron's sons, the anointed priests, who were ordained to serve as priests. 4. Nadab and Abihu, however, fell dead before the LORD when they made an offering with unauthorized fire before him in the Desert of Sinai. They had no sons; so only Eleazar and Ithamar served as priests during the lifetime of their father Aaron. … 9. Give the Levites to Aaron and his sons; they are the Israelites who are to be given wholly to him. 10. Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priests; anyone else who approaches the sanctuary must be put to death." 11. The LORD also said to Moses, 12. "I have taken the Levites from among the Israelites in place of the first male offspring of every Israelite woman. The Levites are mine


And, it utterly amazes me how the following verses are understood to believe that there is no more gender in God’s eyes??? If this were so, does that mean that a man may marry and sleep with another man, since God does not see them as men anymore, …but just androgynous? Clearly the passage and entire context, starting from chapter two, is denouncing the Judaizers, and defining what the eligibility for salvation is. That is, circumcision, race, status, vocation, gender, age, size, wealth, pedigree has absolutely no bearing on one’s standing with God towards redemption.

Galations 3:11, 13, 25-29
11. Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." 13. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." 25. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. 26. You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27. for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
 
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