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Does it say there’s no sun, or that there’s no need?
Actually, he generally, at least to what I've seen, does not defend his doctrine. The same pattern seen here has repeated many times. There is no Biblical defense, there is lots of obfuscation, and, if the person persists, ad hominems.
Personally, I find his doctrine not Biblical, and actually harmful. But that's just me. As far as the forum goes, I prefer things to be clearly seen.
And now episkopos dissappears into the woodwork, others defend him, it's like the playground.
Yeah. There's plenty wrong on these forums, I agree with that.
Now you want me to just shut up . . . go away . . . stop questioning . . . stop seeing . . . stop point things out . . . while you feel free to continue.
OK. I understand, I've seen it many times before.
This is so sad, but so common.
Scripture alleges and revelation that in the lake of fire they are tormented day and night.
Thank you for that!do not have anything against Episkopos, actually seeing so much he does contribute. We all have some errors possibly, yeah? not faulting anyone for errors. It is the action of speaking of humility and holiness and righteousness but whenever something goes down where those around, sisters in Christ, start getting drug through the dirt...they end up being the ones apologizing and bearing it alone. Is it biblical that those claiming such strength in the Lord then jumping ship while those left behind get deemed the ones at fault. Do not see where Helen had any cause to apologize for bringing up Moses. Do not see why then it turned on her as being the problem. Nor ever Nancy. Both always displaying the fruits of humility, restraint in love, more so in owning and agreeing quickly that they were wrong even if that is not the case.
Romans 12:16-17 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. [17] Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
Marks, also do not always agree with you but am with you in questioning why the blame is aways cast upon others nearby for even asking a question. seems upside down.
Is it biblical that those claiming such strength in the Lord
Epi does not claim "such strength in the Lord", I.e, holiness. He DOES say there is a difference between righteousness and holiness, but he most definitely does NOT claim to BE in holiness. He does not claim to be in Christ currently. I realize that people think He says that, but he does not say it. They just assume he is saying it.
Do not see where Helen had any cause to apologize for bringing up Moses.
So you are trying to tell us that even though Moses blew it and was not allowed to cross over...Moses was cast out into outer darkness!!!!
why the blame is aways cast upon others nearby for even asking a question.
There's a lot of flying off the handle going on like that...trying to see someone in the worst possible way. Meanwhile the bible is always right...so these never question the bible and it's wordings. But if you say exactly the same thing...but without the verse quote...you get a hizzy fit. So something very dishonest going on.Of course one should not apologize for mentioning or bringing up Moses. But she didn't just bring up Moses, she said to Epi,
Epi did not say that, does not believe that, and was not trying to tell anyone that as Helen said he was.
She did not ask a question. She made A statement. A question does not begin with "you are trying to tell us" and it does not end with "!!!" A question ends with "???"
If any be in Christ he is a new creation. If someone is not in Christ, what should be concluded?
Do you not know that if you are baptized into Christ you are baptized into His death? Buried with Him in baptism, that as He was raised from the dead so also we should walk in newness of life. If someone is not in Christ, what should be concluded?
In Christ we have every spritual blessing. Again, if someone is not in Christ, what should be concluded?
I suggest this does not represent a correct soteriology.
Much love!
Epi does not claim "such strength in the Lord", I.e, holiness. He DOES say there is a difference between righteousness and holiness, but he most definitely does NOT claim to BE in holiness. He does not claim to be in Christ currently. I realize that people think He says that, but he does not say it. They just assume he is saying it.
If any be in Christ he is a new creation. If someone is not in Christ, what should be concluded?
All dogmatic certainties. For help with this particular pathology...I started a thread called (of all things)...."dogmatic certainty"
Bibles don't speak to people. And bible verses repeated over and over don't mean a connection to God or the truth. One needs to connect with God for anything in the above bible citings to have any real meaning...in Spirit and truth. Religious ideologies may seem to be the same as truth...but they are a counterfeit of an actual relationship with God.
then I’m sorry for assuming this. It is mainly when he speaks of not many are holy as speaking of himself among the not many. Or maybe it is the righteous. See, I’m not even sure what he believes or where he places himself. Yes, misunderstanding can twist things. especially here in post that can easily be misunderstood or taken wrong.
Sorry, I realized I neglected this part . . .All dogmatic certainties. For help with this particular pathology...
Okay, but you assume he says he is among the holy. I believe if you ask him questions, he would probably answer them!
That they are not abiding in Him...
then I’m sorry for assuming this. It is mainly when he speaks of not many are holy as speaking of himself among the not many. Or maybe it is the righteous. See, I’m not even sure what he believes or where he places himself. Yes, misunderstanding can twist things. especially here in post that can easily be misunderstood or taken wrong.