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Dcopymope

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When it comes to prophecy concerning a possible alien deception, there really hasn’t been any video or blog I’ve seen that I felt truly gave the subject justice as a hypothetical scenario. Reason being, is because they don’t actually explain exactly how the deception will be pulled in a way that also plugs all the glaring holes in the theory that are often brought up. For instance, it is often stated that it will be claimed that aliens had a role in our creation, either directly or indirectly. But then someone will inevitably ask who created them, throwing the problem into space ad infinitum. This is why I believe that before any type of alien deception can truly take shape, they have to convincingly debunk any notion of the God of the Bible being real.

It will be a two fold attack on the faith. The first step is to “prove” that the universe has no beginning. Currently, research at Cern has shown that the big bang theory is basically impossible, because the universe would have destroyed itself. Now they are calling our very existence a miracle, in a sense, so they are inching ever so close to the long held theory of theirs that the universe has no beginning. If they can “prove” this to themselves, then that means the universe has no cause, which means there is no creator. The very law of conservation of mass itself would only bolster such a belief since it claims that in a ‘closed system’, matter can neither be destroyed nor created.

The Universe Should not exist according to physicists

This is what I believe the "lie" of the strong delusion will end up being about that Paul referred to. The "lie" is basically about disproving any notion that there could possibly be life beyond the physical. It is about "proving" that what we call 'supernatural' is in fact an entirely natural occurrence. This will be the basis, or the foundation for the alien deception later on. Convincing the scientific and academic establishment of this will certainly be the straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak, long before we even get to any deception about extraterrestrials.

What this does long term is make it a lot easier for the lies of the Antichrist, the beast of revelation to stick. He can claim what ever the hell he wants, and he will have “science falsely so called”, as the apostle Paul once stated to back up his claims, along with his miracles to boot. This is what I believe he will claim to be in a nut shell. It will be a combination of new age philosophy which is nothing but eastern mysticism with a more western flavor to it, Gnosticism, and evolution with a little bit of the Bible mixed in. The lie will basically take us full circle back to the exact same lie that started it all, that “ye shall be as gods”:

“I am from time immemorial, the first creature that ever was, the first to ever evolve from a single celled organism into a human like creature. I am the last that ever will be, because I am the first creature to ever conquer death, by attaining “gnosis” and becoming one with the “fifth element”, the very essence of the universe itself that is within all things, within all living cells, (“science” will claim). Take this chip, my mark, in your right hand or forehead, and it will completely open you up at the cellular level, allowing you to gain harmony, oneness, with the ‘universal consciousnesses within you’ (devils). And you shall become like me, as gods, a new creation, a second Adam.”

I’m betting the Catholic Church, due to them being a major proponent of evolution, will claim this “essence” to be the holy spirit. The scientific establishment will claim the anti-Christ and his “essence” is the long sought after "missing link" of evolution. And as you can see, this lie also allows him to not even have to claim to be our creator, while at the same time effectively claiming to be a god like being in the flesh. But before we even get to this point though, I do however believe there will be an actual deception that unfolds concerning life in space. It will be very subtle.

With the world being so conditioned to believe in random, purposeless Darwinian evolution, the only thing groups like Nasa will have to do is make a report “proving” the discovery of microbial life developing into a single celled organism on another planet, then into a multi celled organism, and the rest is history. Evolutionist groups like the Smithsonian Institute may come out with a “reveal” of their own, perhaps in the form of skeletal remains of the Biblical giants. But really though, just them giving a report about them “discovering” true to life evidence of evolutionary genesis will be all the world will need to hear. All bets will be off at that point, and many Christians are not prepared to give an answer for it.
 

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God only gives prophecies about things that will happen.
That he hasn't spoken about Dr indicates there isn't an et.

Throw reason into the mix. The voyager space craft, now in interstellar space emits as much heat as a 40 watt light bulb and it takes the Hubble telescope about 30 minutes to find it.
Any alien space ship Luke emit far more heat then voyager, in fact we would detect any space ship firing up its reactor almost as soon as the light/heat radiation reached earth. Any UFOs in the solar system would be known about and could be located as easily as any astronomer locates the outer planets.

It follows there are no alien spaceships in the solar system nor traveling to visit us.
 

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God only gives prophecies about things that will happen.
That he hasn't spoken about Dr indicates there isn't an et.

Throw reason into the mix. The voyager space craft, now in interstellar space emits as much heat as a 40 watt light bulb and it takes the Hubble telescope about 30 minutes to find it.
Any alien space ship Luke emit far more heat then voyager, in fact we would detect any space ship firing up its reactor almost as soon as the light/heat radiation reached earth. Any UFOs in the solar system would be known about and could be located as easily as any astronomer locates the outer planets.

It follows there are no alien spaceships in the solar system nor traveling to visit us.

Well the subject of unidentified flying objects doesn't even have to come up with my scenario though. For one, your reasoning is based on the assumption that an alien that evolved into a godlike being from another planet actually needs a spacecraft to start with. Why would he need it if he conquered the physical limitations of nature by "evolutionary gnosis"? But lets assume the subject of UFO's did come up though. Just think of what the "lie" can do for them as I explain it, and the far reaching implications of it. When it gets to the point that the scientific priesthood can explain away what we call supernatural, like your 'chariots of fire' and 'wheels within wheels' as material, it will allow them to make up whatever they want.

It allows the idea of aliens to be elevated to deity status long before the antichrist comes on the scene. Just like the antichrist will claim to be an alien that evolved into a godlike being, conquering nature, conquering death, becoming a 'second Adam', all the scientific priesthood has to do is explain away your UFO in similar fashion. While the UFO is a product of nature much like its godlike creators, it is so advanced that it is not bound by the physical limitations of nature, just like your 'wheels with wheels' and 'Chariots of fire'. You see, this all starts with their "proof" of the universe itself being self sustaining, with no actual beginning. At that point it will be very, very easy for Satan to give Christians a hard time.
 

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When it comes to prophecy concerning a possible alien deception, there really hasn’t been any video or blog I’ve seen that I felt truly gave the subject justice as a hypothetical scenario.
Pastor Mike Hoggard is currently making videos on this...

 

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Pastor Mike Hoggard is currently making videos on this...


:) Yeah, I used to listen to Mike all the time. I'll give it a look.

Edit: Like how he refers to these heavenly, angelic beings as extraterrestrials. Reason being is because its high time we Christians stop letting the world define to us what an "alien" or "E.T" is supposed to be when the bible plainly describes them for us.
 
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I remember seeing a man with two aerials that came poking out of his head on demand and he could do magic, I think his name was Martin, not to mention a talking horse back in the 1960's as well I believe it was.
Oh I remember seeing uncle Martins spaceship as well.
 

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For one, your reasoning is based on the assumption that an alien that evolved into a godlike being
No my reasoning is based on two things, the Bible and science.
The Bible says there are no aliens. Science as I demonstrated shows there are no aliens in our solar system or traveling to see us.
 

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No my reasoning is based on two things, the Bible and science.
The Bible says there are no aliens. Science as I demonstrated shows there are no aliens in our solar system or traveling to see us.

Alien - something that is not earth born.

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By this basic definition of an alien, or extraterrestrial, that makes angelic beings for instance alien in origin, or celestial to more exact, unless you are claiming angels are terrestrial in origin, which of course has no scriptural support. The problem isn't believing in "aliens", the problem is that we are letting the world tell us what an "alien" is supposed to be. If the scientific priesthood were to announce evidence of alien life tomorrow, as evidence of evolution, from say, a previous unmanned exploration, what would be your response to that as a christian?
 

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If the scientific priesthood were to announce evidence of alien life tomorrow, as evidence of evolution, from say, a previous unmanned exploration, what would be your response to that as a christian?
As Christians we believe that the Bible has given us sufficient insight into the existence of other beings. Evolution of course is total nonsense, and angels are the only other sentient creatures besides humans. So only angels can be considered as aliens, and creatures who have come to earth presenting themselves as aliens are evil angels. It is possible that they have created UFOs.
 
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As Christians we believe that the Bible has given us sufficient insight into the existence of other beings. Evolution of course is total nonsense, and angels are the only other sentient creatures besides humans. So only angels can be considered as aliens, and creatures who have come to earth presenting themselves as aliens are evil angels. It is possible that they have created UFOs.

Yes, it is indeed very possible when looking at the angels guarding Gods throne with their "wheels within wheels" vehicles. Angels are indeed the only other sentient beings in existence that are written about but how are we as Christians going to explain that to the world? You see, this is why Christians shying away from the debate of life in space, and the possibility of advanced creatures beyond earth will bite us in the ass eventually. We will be without excuse when the book we claim to believe in as the truth of God clearly tells us on no uncertain terms that we are not alone in the universe.
 

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Angels are indeed the only other sentient beings in existence that are written about...
I would consider the Giants as sentient as well.

Not sure if there are any around still. It wouldn't surprise me if they were.

If One listens to Steve Quayle, he'll tell you that they definitely are.
 

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I would consider the Giants as sentient as well.

Not sure if there are any around still. It wouldn't surprise me if they were.

If One listens to Steve Quayle, he'll tell you that they definitely are.

I don't have a reason to believe they are alive, for the simple fact that the angels responsible for those abominations have been locked up in 'outer darkness' for quite some time now. Their skeletal remains may play a role in this deception though. It might be claimed that they were once super evolved humanoid beings from another planet. Them being the off spring of angels makes pulling off this lie a lot easier. All they would have to do to "prove" it is state in a report that part of the DNA in the bones cannot be compared to any creature to that of earth, in other words, their angel DNA that allowed them to grow to such proportions to begin with. Why this scenario has not been proposed by the likes of Steve and others as possibly being part of the deception is beyond me. These are the same people that discuss at length about proving them to be the giants of Gen 6 using the same method after all.
 
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Alien - something that is not earth born.

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By this basic definition of an alien, or extraterrestrial, that makes angelic beings for instance alien in origin, or celestial to more exact, unless you are claiming angels are terrestrial in origin, which of course has no scriptural support. The problem isn't believing in "aliens", the problem is that we are letting the world tell us what an "alien" is supposed to be. If the scientific priesthood were to announce evidence of alien life tomorrow, as evidence of evolution, from say, a previous unmanned exploration, what would be your response to that as a christian?

Angels were not born, so do not fit your definition of alien.

Your last sentence is nonsense. How can someone on earth detect bacteria on a planet many light years away?
If you are talking about intelligent life out there, then it is equally reasonable to expect the first intelligent, translated statement from st to be ,'Tell us about Jesus?'
 

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Angels were not born, so do not fit your definition of alien.

Of course not, and really, whether or not they were born or created has nothing to do with their place of origin. When it comes to origins, they are in fact alien.

Your last sentence is nonsense. How can someone on earth detect bacteria on a planet many light years away?
If you are talking about intelligent life out there, then it is equally reasonable to expect the first intelligent, translated statement from st to be ,'Tell us about Jesus?'

How? Well its easy, this is why they have land rovers. All they have to do is announce evidence of microbial life forms from a previous mission that is now showing signs of evolutionary genesis, or signs of single celled or multi cellular development. This alone will be all the "proof" the world needs to disprove the God of the Bible, and Christians will be too busy stumbling over themselves to come up with a real answer to it.
 

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This alone will be all the "proof" the world needs to disprove the God of the Bible, and Christians will be too busy stumbling over themselves to come up with a real answer to it.
Get real life on Mars would have to be demonstrably not from earth.
Apart from that your claim as for life found around a distant stat, not on a planet in this solar system.
 

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Get real life on Mars would have to be demonstrably not from earth.

Its not going to be hard for Nasa to convince the populace that they found life in space, where ever they claim they found it. For one, a lot of what Nasa does is classified, so they can use this as an excuse to introduce their "evidence" for the first time to the public. For two, this is Nasa we're talking about, the scientific priesthood. The public will believe whatever they tell them because we are simply SUPPOSED to believe them. They are supposed to be part of the scientific establishment, the worlds foremost authority on science. After all, the world was told they landed on the Moon, and the world believed it, did they not or are you going to be in denial of that as well? The world is being told that much of the scientific inventions and "breakthroughs" is partly due to Nasa's efforts, are we not? I don't trust these alphabet agencies as far as I can throw them, but you can best believe that the average Joe will. And while these people con the public with a "discovery" of life, you're here too busy arguing with me instead of thinking about how you as a Christian will give a real response to it. The only thing you are doing right now is proving the point I made at the end of my original post.
 
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Ooh. Now we're talking...

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So much Occult, so little time.

Never A Straight Answer.

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Oh yeah, Jack Parsons, wasn't he a good friend of L. Ron Hubbard? And we as Christians are supposed to take Nasa seriously as a beacon of truth despite its true origins.
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On the subject of NASA Never A Straight Answer.
Has anyone come across a helix mandragora type of thing, it's described as a sort of bubble effect in the air or an energy ring some what or like a time warp thing maybe, 2 people have seen this that I know of and say other people seen it as well who were with them.
One mate seen this when he was in Romania and my brother seen such south of Darwin NT Australia.

I have never seen such but only on Dr Who in The Masque of Mandragora something like that maybe, but only that Dr Who goes way to far with such, if they are trying to use such a thing that many people have or must of seen. as to the idea behind the story they made up.
 

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After all, the world was told they landed on the Moon, and the world believed it, did they not or are you going to be in denial of that as well?

Finally getting to the heart of the matter.
Thos has nothing to do with scisnce and everything to do with conspiracy theories!

As you don't trust anyone in authority nothing can be proved to you.
I am sorry for your delousional view of the world.