what?Let us hope we hear no more about it. Christians are not under the law!
Most Christians are not even under Jesus !
Follow Jesus.
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what?Let us hope we hear no more about it. Christians are not under the law!
Yes, Abraham kept God's commandments.. That was before the written laws of Moses.
I would say the same commandments Abraham kept.
The circumcision of the flesh represented being accepted in the Old Covenant. They broke that covenant and
God divorced them in Jer. 3:8. God left Shiloh because of their idolatry and continually breaking the Old Covenant
laws.
A little over a thousand years later God left Jerusalem because of the same lawless practices of Judah in Jerusalem.
God passed judgment on Jerusalem for their wickedness just like He did to Shiloh in Jer. 7:12-14. That was the very
reason that the Old Covenant was passing away and the New Covenant was being installed.
Now... everyone has to be circumcised under the New Covenant by God. God is the only one that can circumcise our
hearts. It consists of cutting (the flesh) from our hearts so we can practice walking in the spirit. We are circumcised
with the circumcision made without hands (a God thing)!
Logabe
Almost yes, but we should realize that the law of Moses is in human language and thus has the limitations of human languages. When men study the Written Torah given by Moses, they need to be seek the spirit of the law behind the written words.Would you also say that the commandments Abraham kept, is the same as the Law of Moses?
If that is the case, we need to preach "Jesus Saves" not the law of Moses.what?
Most Christians are not even under Jesus !
Follow Jesus.
So? If someone listens to Moses, they accept Jesus.If that is the case, we need to preach "Jesus Saves" not the law of Moses.
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So? If someone listens to Moses, they accept Jesus.
IF someone rejects Moses, they reject Jesus.
As Jesus says.
(paraphrased)
If that is the case, we need to preach "Jesus Saves" not the law of Moses.
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Who gave HIS WORD to HIS PEOPLE ?The ONLY way we can fulfil all, is by being found "in Him"...because He and He alone met all the requirements of Father.
now lets talk the bolded part And put it up with this, as paul said.
Gal 3: 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, f]">[f]kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
True.And in Galatians 5 Paul further EXPLAINED his meaning...
Gal 5:16-18
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulful the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
KJV
Paul gave a condition there to not be under the law.
Only IF... we be led by The Holy Spirit, i.e., WALK by The Holy Spirit, only then... are we not under the law!
Though our Lord Jesus nailed the blood and ritual ordinances in the law to His cross, a whole bunch of God's laws He did not remove. And it's that which helps His people to govern against the lawless and ungodly.
The fruit of The Spirit is not against God's law, which IF we follow it we won't be doing anything that is against God's law. And that is how we are not under the law. But again, ONLY IF we walk by The Holy Spirit and don't do those things that are against God's laws.
You are right on the surface, but Paul was speaking of physical circumcision in Romans 2, and he was teaching us
how to be a spiritual Jew. Why? Because we become a citizen of the Kingdom when we believe in the King of the
Kingdom. In other words, we are justified when we believe that Jesus is the Savior of the world, and he died on the
cross for our sins. We are a believer!
True.
And by TORAH, adultery was a transgression.
And by JESUS, THINKING about adultery (desire in the heart ) IS A TRANSGRESSION.
So, which is more difficult ?
Which is stricter ? TORAH, or JESUS ?
Yes, see Romans 2 -Yet God promised to write His laws in our hearts and minds
That was in regard to the coming of the Messiah. Jesus had a new message.So? If someone listens to Moses, they accept Jesus.
IF someone rejects Moses, they reject Jesus.
As Jesus says.
(paraphrased)
Jesus is the WORD.Who gave HIS WORD to HIS PEOPLE ?
There is forgiveness in Jesus, the redeemer.True.
And by TORAH, adultery was a transgression.
And by JESUS, THINKING about adultery (desire in the heart ) IS A TRANSGRESSION.
So, which is more difficult ?
Which is stricter ? TORAH, or JESUS ?
Yet most of the world remains not forgiven. Why ? (according to all Scripture)There is forgiveness in Jesus, the redeemer.
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