That's a good point.
I was just listening to that hymn that goes, Jesus doeth all things well, and that's true! So if Jesus is your true foundation, then, won't He support you? I would think so!
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I was just listening to that hymn that goes, Jesus doeth all things well, and that's true! So if Jesus is your true foundation, then, won't He support you? I would think so!
Much love!
There's a baseless accusation. What reason for this statement is there if not to impugne? Is this an example of your grace?
I think when people fail to understand the Biblical teachings on justification and the new creation, then they come to these kinds of ideas, thinking that there is somehow a gap we must bridge, that Jesus did not.
We are justified by a single righteous Act, and that performed by Christ, not us. Therefore, it can never be us. We will never earn our standing before God. We are all His children, those who in fact are.
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Amen
as Jesus said, it is finished,
do we trust him, or do we need to add to what he has already done
It pretty much are these two options, well the third is we do not believe at all
This is one of many many wrong ideas about God and justification and rebirth.
We need to understand that as His children, by faith we walk in the Spirit, this is the same faith in which we were justified.
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- 49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, (priceless, lol; i guess many CBers can relate huh)
- 50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
- 51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
man, i was all set to like that, and then you had to set off on another binary relationship; there is not middle ground?We Are to become as children!
But seriously . . . good better best transcendent are all within "good", as in, good and evil. Denouncing a "binary view" as something wrong would be to, what, give a third option? Right, wrong, and what?
So then someone who sees in terms of right and wrong somehow "can't see" the "good, better and best"?
Another binary relationship is, truth and falsehood. There is not middle ground. There is no, more true, or less true. Jesus taught that when we know the truth, that is what sets us free. Truth sets us free.
The key is in a correct understanding of justification and the new creation.
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are you sure? How do "right and wrong" differ from "truth and falsehood" iyo?
Imo when we know the truth (that there is no absolute truth; if you doubt it, try and Quote one), the truth sets us free
There are simply so many Scriptures that direct us to believe in what God has already done for us, and that we may now rest in Him, and let His life flow through us.
The only impediment that I've really found to the walk in the Spirit is unbelief. Nothing else stands in our way from walking in Him at all times.
This whole idea that being born again puts us at the same level as Israel in the OT, and that we have to by a life of good works attain to rebirth, that we can live with God, this is so antithetical to what I find in the Bible, and in life.
I know what that kind of life is like. If we would only believe what He's said!
It's the difference between a life lived trying to be good, do well, stay faithful, not sin - these are all good things - to try to love others, even when we don't want to, keep ourselves in righteousness . . .
Is that the abundant life?
Or is it the life where we understand that God has Justified us, declared us righteous, that God has recreated us, now we are brand new people, who are righteous and holy. Isn't the abundant life that life where we are always enjoying the love of God in Jesus who is with us, never apart from Him, He is never angry with us, always comforts us, even in chastening, should that be needed.
I know in my life there was a lot that had to happen before I was willing to let go of my cares and "responsibilities", and to receive the rest of God.
Only in that rest comes the life that pleases God. Then we can walk in the works that He laid out for us, because we've rested from our works.
Maybe it's a matter of not wanting to let go of at least a little responsibility, I don't know.
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Jesus is absolute truth.
God's Word is absolute truth.
To think otherwise , well, why?
God's Word is absolute truth.
To think otherwise , well, why?
Middle ground between right and wrong? Between truth and lies? What would that be?
What do you call something that's not true?
Why bother discussing truth if your truth is that there is no truth?
But what did Jesus say?
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
But you say the truth is that there is no truth? And that doesn't seem self-negating to you?
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i would say bc the def of AT = "objective proof," which we obv dont have for those
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a perspective? An opinion? After all, the "sky" was falling, at least in a sense?
bc as a man thinks, so is he, or maybe iow there is plenty of "truth," only it is all subjective, as most any cop or lawyer will verify i think. But as i said, try and Quote one, and i hope you can even!
well, no "absolute truth" anyway, surely; or i mean provide your proof?
Can you put that in terms like the men learned from God Himself in the Bible , OT and NT ?
I always wonder at those who seem to have an aversion to simple answers in response to simple questions.
Do you actually mean to imply that there is a relativism between true and false?
You don't mean that the actual sky was falling, instead, their "sky" was falling, that's right?
So it isn't true that the sky was falling, only Chicken Little's metaphorical sky was truly falling. Let's do get our definitions down.
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well, i can try,
He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought
As a man thinks, so is he
and prolly the "double-minded" stuff too?
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imply nothing, Einstein already demonstrated that, yes. The train deal with the people standing in two places, etc
Indeed! I could respond to each one, but I won't because I know from experience that on every point some man will have a counterpoint. We are led by the Holy Spirit into truth, but disagreements occur because some sometimes quench the Holy Spirit, which means that some who have received the Holy Spirit have wrong conclusions or interpretations. Of course some, who say that have, may not have received the Holy Spirit at all.
"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov 21:2
If we are always on God's side, then we are always right.
If we are sometimes on God's side, then sometimes we are right.
If we are never of God's side, then guess what?
God wins all of the battles in which He participates. Is it time to separate the chaff from the wheat? Am I the harvester? I am not God!
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