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yet "homosexuality" is not listed among the sins of Sodom, hmm. Weird, i agree
They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire
They serve as an example of those who undergo the justice of agelong trials
12These are the ones who are like dangerous reefs at your love feasts. They feast with you, nurturing only themselves without fear. They are waterless clouds carried along by winds; trees in late autumn--fruitless, twice dead, pulled out by the roots;
16These people are discontented grumblers, walking according to their desires; their mouths utter arrogant words, flattering people for their own advantage.
so, far from being "homosexuals," the subject and intent of Jude 1 becomes clearer after one scan i guess.
Interesting imo that they are compared with 7In the same way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them committed sexual immorality and practiced perversions, just as angels did,
the sexually immoral and perverted, "just as the angels" (who have no reproductive organs) "did," and fwiw i say again that there were no actual prostitutes in prophets gone a'whoring i'm pretty sure.
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At the end of the day, no sodomite can enter into the Kingdom of God for they have not the Holy Spirit.
They have a spirit of carnal lost who only lead all astray.
Just look at the world nowadays, Sodomites are idolised ! look at all the sodomites within all the churches, they were supported as well and hidden from all, it's diabolical ! just look at how the world as turned in the last 10 years say, now they peddle school children to be totally bastardises it's madness ! Gender bendinginsane totally insane ! but they are clearly getting away with such bastardisation, not to mention they have murder on demand idolised nowadays oh it's called abortion ! or what does it go by now, ? oh yes Human rights ! hmm ? oh if the baby is badly deformed and the mother want's to abort such it then does have rights, but if totally healthy then it does not have any rights. Oh boy what a world. clearly the god Moloch is being worshiped again and the Star that St Stephen pointed out for what it truly is, now waved on high claiming to be Israel
your missing the point the lifestyle is wrong one question before i post a scripture . which sends one to hell faster being a homosexual or rejecting jesus and never get saved but still be a upstanding citizen full of good works..
such as you were 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 " And that is what some of you were." past tense But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. {present tense }
your right but they can be changed re:2nd corinthians 5:17 john 3:17 God sent not his son to condemn the world but the world through him might be saved . so yes they should be allowed in the church building of worship let them even sit together .but mindful they must respect the House of God no embracing no visible hand holding as in to draw attention to themselves . just come and sit and listen to word a seed can be planted. had you not heard you would still be lost yourself..same goes for me
the sodomite, the drunkard, the drug user-->me the adulter / the lost person can be changed
I think their counter here, Forrest, would be that a truly loving homosexual marriage does not constitute "fornication" or sexual immorality in any way.
Not sure I ever posted it (I completely forgot about this dream), but the argument I personally use, and that they have a tough time getting around, is that homosexuality in general is often associated with uncleanness in scripture (ἀκαθαρσίᾳ, used in 2 Corinthians 12:21, Galatians 5:19, Ephesians 5:3, and Colossians 3:5, the contexts of which all involve sexual sin), and by "uncleanness" the NT writers were taking about spiritual uncleanness. i.e. the presence of demonic spirits encouraging such acts (Demons of sexual perversion are said to be the most disgusting and unclean of all the classes)
This same Greek word is used in Romans 1:24 where homosexual practices are specifically being discussed, and since no distinction is made concerning differentiations in commitment or the nature of the relationships involved, it is safe to conclude that Paul was here saying all homosexual relationships are spiritually unclean and therefore demonically inspired.
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The classic reversal, If you deny the love of their relationship you deny love in general and that's unchristian. Then the serpent's argument, questioning what God really said.
Yes. Reinterpreting everything is the enemy's trick. It gets worse, actually. There are some indications that ancient Gnosticism is going to make a come back, and among other things they are teaching that Jesus actually performed homosexual rites with some of His disciples. As blasphemous as that sounds, it will eventually likely be picked up by homosexual churches in some regions, to teach that homosexual rites are properly in keeping with the teachings and practices of the "original" Christian faith.
Much of mainstream Christianity is going to eventually endorse homosexuality, including Catholicism (We've received some dreams on that, which I will post later). But those who truly serve the Living God will have to continue openly denouncing it as a spiritual abomination and damnable. If not, the door to spiritual uncleanness within the church is simply going to keep opening wider and wider.
Did Paul send a slave back to his oppressor/abuser??
did he also mention that some folks who love the law so much ought to not only circumcise themselves but cut their balls off too??
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Sexual immorality and perversion are general terms that cover a lot of things
One has to be born again is the point.
I would not bother with upstanding people who do good works, they are better than Sodomites any day. because a sodomite will never change, because they are possessed = owned by Satan clearly, so one should not tolerate such at all !
One can tolerate one who does good works as their is some hope for them.
One who does good works on the other hand is not possessed but can repent and come to Jesus for they may have good will.
A gay person only works to corrupt all around them with their filth, they are always at pains to create a delusions that they are a good person.
The one who does good works is not always trying to corrupt all around them, but all such are lost as to God, but with such can have their mind opened to God so as to receiving, the true Sodomite will not, that's why they wanted to corrupt the Messengers from God, Angels, because that's how the possessed work. the good works are not possessed ? they are just lost.
The good works mob, maybe seen as the wheat and the tares, but the Sodomites are not wheat at all.
A Sodomite ect can change, but are they changed as due to religious religion ? or to being truly born again ? many such have become religious that I have seen, but many less are truly born again. mainly they take to religious works or a stupid fantasy religious deals, they think that they are doing deals with god, if I do this then ? god will do X ? so they have not truly changed, they have only reshuffled the cards, as all religion is about. but the Holy Spirit is above religion and it is this that gives one the reality of who Jesus truly is and you come out from them religious works = mans religious works that are just like the Jews. one must come out from them ? and come and abide in Christ Jesus, as that's where your Salvation is, it's in Him and you must abide in him only ? Mans religion will only lead astray.
Look at all the Sodomite Priest we have in the Churches, they are not worthy of God at all, they are a curse to Jesus.
Look at Cardinal Pell he claims not to of known about such Priest being Sodomites, he is condemned by God ! but is idolised by the Church and the Atheist Media because he is not an honest God fearing man at all, he is a coward hiding behind the church with the works of this world. Hell I even knew that they were molesting children back in the 70's for crying out loud and you know what nothing was done about it as it was always covered up, not only was it covered up it was policy. such power at work ? I am not surprised of this world, as Jesus pointed this out. theirs your worldly churches for you. worthless to be sure ! because they do not follow Jesus Christ, for if they did the Church would be full of people abiding in the Vine. the proof is in the pudding.
One can not do deals with God at all, you obey in the Vine as that's all you can do.
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well or prostitution, or temple prostitution, i mean limiting to homosexuality is on you right
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Jude 7 In a similar way, ""Sodom"" and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
I'm curious....with all the talk here about "sexual immorality", how many of you are Trump supporters? How many of you excused his "grab 'em by the ****"? Or him bragging about hitting on women ("I moved on her like a ****") when his third wife was home with their newborn son? Or hanging out with porn stars, writing them checks, and apparently having affairs with them? Or appearing in soft-core porn videos? Or hanging out with sexual predators at parties where cheerleaders danced for them....while he was married?
Do you understand how insanely hypocritical many of you look when you go on and on about the "sexual immorality" of gays, while at the same time you actively support someone like Trump? Do you realize people tend to notice that sort of blatant hypocrisy?
Do you understand how insanely hypocritical many of you look when you go on and on about the "sexual immorality" of gays, while at the same time you actively support someone like Trump? Do you realize people tend to notice that sort of blatant hypocrisy?
I must admit that I have struggled to understand this aspect of Trumps lifestyle myself over the years.......and this was why I first had issues ....... not quite sure I feel the same way as I did as I recognise people can change........but must admit that you have raised some fair points, I doubt whether you will get a clear answer though ......as I never use to and was often pounced on for even questioning his lifestyle !!!! Rita
so your saying they can never be saved..you just put a limit on the power of God sure glad i dont read your bible ..so which of the 3 sins will send to hell adultery drunkenness or homosexual? lets add the 4th one being lost never committed adultery never got drunk never been a homosexual . which of these can be saved
compared to hellary aka jezebel and her husband slick willy ahab . no difference he was not my first choice .in the the republican party . but at this point i think he has done a good job. he is not perfect obama is for the one world government . dont get me wrong what he done is wrong but the only difference between him and many members of congress and senate .he got caught they didnt. wrong is wrong right is right
It's hypocrisy, pure and simple. The only question is whether the hypocrites will own up to it (doubtful IMO).
So sexual immorality is acceptable, even thought it's wrong, as long as the person is doing a good job?
did i say it was? did you approve of Bill Clintion ? please quote me for what i said not what you want me to have said.. this is my quote
curious how would you compare hellary lying and deceitful/ lets put them in the scales of justice and weigh them out. but yes i do like his policies
