Creation of All People Except Adam and Eve

[101G]

Jesus told the Pharisees their father was the wicked one, Cain.

Spiritual condition of "SIN".

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[Rocky Wiley]

First thanks for the reply, second, yelp, were people was at the flood got them, because, Genesis 9:18 "And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan."
Genesis 9:19 "These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread."

the "whole Earth", that got all.

PICJAG.

Cain's father was the wicked one, the devil.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

Spiritual condition of "SIN".

PICJAG.

You really do need to let God's word be true.

 

[101G]

Cain's father was the wicked one, the devil.

spiritually speaking, just as this, Matthew 3:7 "But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"

was they slithering on their bellies? no that's a figure of speech which shows a spiritual condition of "EVIL". who the devil is... "EVIL".

Rocky you should have know this.

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[101G]

see, rocky, the devil have the title "father" also, the father of lies, for he is the author of it. and when people lie, they are his children, because they lie like him. see, the term "son" means character, or characteristics. who do you act like God your "FATHER", the devil your father.

sons of God act like God, they tell the truth, but the sons of the Devil lie, kill, and destroy. just like those Pharisees and Sadducees. that's why John called them, "generation of vipers", just like their spiritual daddy. steal and kill. if you don't believe, ask the Lord Jesus .... (smile).

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[Rocky Wiley]

First thanks for the reply, second, yelp, were people was at the flood got them, because, Genesis 9:18 "And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan."
Genesis 9:19 "These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread."

the "whole Earth", that got all.

PICJAG.

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother.

 

[101G]

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother.

see the post above. this is spiritual. not carnal. wickness is a spiritual condition.

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[Rocky Wiley]

see, rocky, the devil have the title "father" also, the father of lies, for he is the author of it. and when people lie, they are his children, because they lie like him. see, the term "son" means character, or characteristics. who do you act like God your "FATHER", the devil your father.

sons of God act like God, they tell the truth, but the sons of the Devil lie, kill, and destroy. just like those Pharisees and Sadducees. that's why John called them, "generation of vipers", just like their spiritual daddy. steal and kill. if you don't believe, ask the Lord Jesus .... (smile).

PICJAG

All of this comes about because you can't accept that that God created mankind in Gen 1 and Adam and Eve in Gen 2.

All the posts haven't proved anything except you believe in evolution!

 

[101G]

All of this comes about because you can't accept that that God created mankind in Gen 1 and Adam and Eve in Gen 2.

All the posts haven't proved anything except you believe in evolution!

ERROR, Man was CREATED on day three, or may I say MANDKIND was created on day 3, but the Woman was brought forth on day 6.

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[Helen]

Now you speak as if you believe the flood was world wide. Jesus told the Pharisees their father was the wicked one, Cain.

Why do you take everything so literally. There is a spirit of Cain.
Jesus also said "you are of your father the Devil", as were all of us before our conversion. We then became sons of God , it was a SPIRITUAL change.

Raise your vision a bit higher than the lower natural realm.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

We have from an early age been told there is only one creation, why is that? Because that is what we were taught in Sunday School.

Let us go thru this in some detail

Gen 1
God said: Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Who could God be talking to? Not himself, he has to be talking to someone that he wants input from. Who is available? Angels! The angels are not the creators but they can offer input, they surely did since we have many races and types of people.

Gen 2
God and God only formed (not created) Adam, the man named Adam by God. This man
was also given the breath of life; and this man became a living soul.

Gen 1
God told the mankind created to go and replenish the earth. Replenish means bring forth something that once was.

Gen 2 God placed Adam in a garden - what we would call a farm.

Gen 1 God created all the animals of the earth, wild animals.

Gen 2 God formed the animals of the field, farm animals.

God looked for a helpmeet for Adam. Was he looking for an animal? No, he was
looking for a woman created in Gen 1.
When none were found God took a rib from Adam and formed Eve.

Who do you think Cain took for a wife? A female created in Gen 1.

Although this is so clear to see, one must accept something that they were never taught in Sunday School.










Gen 2 God took a rib from Adam and formed a helper - Eve

Genesis 1:27 says God created(Hebrew: bara) man in his image.
When the scriptures say let us make(Hebrew word: asah) man in our image after our likeness at 1:26 God is speaking to his Only Begotten Son.
The Hebrew word adham translated Adam means man, mankind or human
So these scriptures are telling us before God started creating man he spoke to his Only Begotten Son and said let's make man in our image after our likeness then proceeded to create man or mankind.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Actually, Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters according to Genesis, some of whom had never eaten the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (see Genesis 3:20; compare chronology in Genesis 4:1)...elves. Therefore Cain's offspring may have indeed been half-elven.

Just a conjecture; don't go overboard with it!

That's because after Adam and Eve sinned they were driven out of the garden called Eden. Angels were stationed around the garden to prevent anyone from going into the garden. So no, none of Adam and Eve children didn't eat any of the forbidden fruit, but because of Adam and Eve sin their children were born in sin. They were sinners right from birth because of the Sin of Adam and Eve.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

None of the children ate of the fruit. Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden so they had no access to it. But they all suffered the results. They were born sinners and all eventually died. And Genesis says nothing about elves. Cain married one of his sisters. Where did Cain get his wife? | CARM.org

It's possible that Cains wife was his sister, the scriptures are not that specific on who she was. She could have been a niece or cousin for all we know.

 

[justbyfaith]

That's because after Adam and Eve sinned they were driven out of the garden called Eden. Angels were stationed around the garden to prevent anyone from going into the garden. So no, none of Adam and Eve children didn't eat any of the forbidden fruit, but because of Adam and Eve sin their children were born in sin. They were sinners right from birth because of the Sin of Adam and Eve.

Eve was the mother of all living before Cain was born; who was the firstborn of the sons of men. He was also born dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1)...so he was not among those who were "living". This designation being reserved for those who had not died spiritually from having eaten of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

 

[101G]

That's because after Adam and Eve sinned they were driven out of the garden called Eden. Angels were stationed around the garden to prevent anyone from going into the garden. So no, none of Adam and Eve children didn't eat any of the forbidden fruit, but because of Adam and Eve sin their children were born in sin. They were sinners right from birth because of the Sin of Adam and Eve.

first thanks fpr the reply, second, we must disagree with that statement, Adam and Eve had children in the Garden before, before, before, that was pit out.

now, please explain, Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."
so who was these?, but be careful, Romans 3:23.

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[justbyfaith]

I believe that the similitude of Adam's transgression refers to the violation of any established law.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Eve was said to be the mother of all living before Cain was born. I conclude that there were children born without the sin-DNA that came from eating of the tree. Cain was born (spiritually) dead.

I know that isn't scriptural. Taking from the scripture that because the woman who's name is Eve is the mother of all living and because of that some of their children produced by them are sinless when born isn't true. Just as Adam is the Father of all mankind so Eve is the Mother of all mankind.
Cain wasn't born spiritually dead in the way you mean. He became spiritually dead not just because of the act of murder but because of his arrogant unrepentant attitude.

 

[Huperetes]

I have always viewed the creation account of man in ch 1 as being synonymous with ch 2. Is it not true that they ate of the tree of knowledge before they had children?

 

[justbyfaith]

Cain wasn't born spiritually dead in the way you mean.

He was indeed born spiritually dead; just as all men descended from Adam were born spiritually dead (Ephesians 2:1, 2 Corinthians 5:14-15).

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Eve was the mother of all living before Cain was born; who was the firstborn of the sons of men. He was also born dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1)...so he was not among those who were "living". This designation being reserved for those who had not died spiritually from having eaten of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

In a figurative way, all mankind were under the condemnation of death before God the Judge of all. Therefore mankind was spiritually dead. However by acting in faith concerning the great love Jehovah God and his Only Begotten Son has shown mankind by Jehovah God sending his Only Begotten Son to sacrifice his human life for mankind or humanity and because Jehovah's Only Begotten Son willingly came to sacrifice his human life for mankind, those of mankind who exercise faith in this loving act on the part of Jehovah God and his christ who's Jehovah God Only Begotten Son become spiritually alive.
Both Adam and Eve became spiritually dead when they ate the forbidden fruit.