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his God? John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."Yes, Jesus was fashioned by his God as a man
if God have a God, then whosoever claim such is lost.
PICJAG.
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his God? John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."Yes, Jesus was fashioned by his God as a man
Yes, Jesus was fashioned by his God as a man.
God stripped Himself of His glory?"Fashioned by his God???" Jesus IS God. He never ceased to be God while He lived on this earth.
Matthew 1:21,23 reads:
21) "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
22) Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet saying,
23) Behold a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted, GOD WITH US."
I think you have misunderstood the meaning of the term "humble!" It is not a word that has a connotation "as being polite," if you will. But rather, in this case, "humble" means "to strip oneself of his glory."
Knowledge of Scripture is one of many problems facing Christendom.
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge...(Hosea 4:6).
To God Be The Glory
Yes, his God.....his God? John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
if God have a God, then whosoever claim such is lost.
PICJAG.
Nancy, I believe Jesus is God, but this is the actual process.....I sense that you do not believe the Christ, who became flesh is eternal? Alpha, Omega?
Christ took on human form through natural birth and His name on Earth was Jesus so yes, He was not formed from the dust. He exists as the Father exists...always was and always will be. He left the Glory of heaven to lower Himself for us...even unto death.
IMHO, Jesus was always the Mighty God.
Only the part of him people could see. In the flesh he became like us. Remember, God is omnipresent in heaven and on earth. He was still the same Almighty God in heaven.God stripped Himself of His glory?
The Almighty God, creator of all did this?
Why???
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge...(Hosea 4:6).
Spirit was made flesh?Only the part of him people could see. In the flesh he became like us. Remember, God is omnipresent in heaven and on earth. He was still the same Almighty God in heaven.
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is not now Jesus "spirit" in flesh and bone, who is the "TRUTH", (John 14:6?)Spirit was made flesh?
Let's see what Jesus thought about that idea....
Jesus said...
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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Spirit was made flesh?
Let's see what Jesus thought about that idea....
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
....correct?
this is correct. for the Lord Jesus is the Spirit that is everywhere. this is the reason why he said "I go to my Father/Spirit", so that he could be glorified ... "WITH" ... his own Spirit, while in flesh he could be everywhere at the at the same time as he has always been whithout flesh. that's why he said in John 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."The Samaritans believed they had to be in Jerusalem to worship God, but Jesus told her we can worship in Spirit and in truth wherever we are.
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his God? John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
if God have a God, then whosoever claim such is lost.
PICJAG.
Jesus is a quickening spirit that is omnipresent.is not now Jesus "spirit" in flesh and bone, who is the "TRUTH", (John 14:6?)
but see post #149 above.
PICJAG.
No, he told her explicitly that God is a Spirit...Him...Him...The Samaritans believed they had to be in Jerusalem to worship God, but Jesus told her we can worship in Spirit and in truth wherever we are.
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Yes, the Holy Ghost is now comprised of God inside Jesus, inside us. Both of them are the Holy Ghost, and make their abode with us.this is correct. for the Lord Jesus is the Spirit that is everywhere. this is the reason why he said "I go to my Father/Spirit", so that he could be glorified ... "WITH" ... his own Spirit, while in flesh he could be everywhere at the at the same time as he has always been whithout flesh. that's why he said in John 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."
the reason why he went to his own Spirit/Father, because while in flesh as the diversity, "with" blood he was in a natural state, as you and I are, LIMITED, in that body of flesh and blood. but by dying and releasing or the "FORSAKENING"of the natural body with natural blood, from his spirit he regained what was his by triumph over his enemies. now, he is glorified, or re-united in that same nature that he had before he, G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') himself of, or before coming in flesh. that's why he said "my" Father is Greater, not in "quality", but in "quantity" meaning everywhere at the same time, supportive scripture, Ephesians 4:10 "He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)", just as he, JESUS, did and always did without a flesh body, as God in the OT and not "diversified" as was in Jeremiah 23:23 "Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?"
Jeremiah 23:24 "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD." one might want to make a cross reference of Jeremiah 23:23 & 24 with Ephesians 4:10.
so being "GLORIFIED" with his Spirit in flesh, (per John 17:5). now that which was Natural, now Glorified in Spirit came on the Day of Pentecost. yes, the Son as Glorified in his Spirit/Father, cane on the day of Pentecost. WHAT DID JESUS SAY IN John 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you". where did he say that at? Go away, and come again,
John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" (that "another" is the "FELLOW" in Zechariah 13:7, see post #149 again).
John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." (yest the Spirit of TRUTH whom Jesus is the TRUTH and the WAY).
John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." how plain can one be.... there is the "go away", and the , "Come again".
I will come to you, and the you here is audience relevance, meaning that he, JESUS, came to them, his disciples, as the Holy Ghost, God himself, the "COMFORTER", God GLORIFIED in the Spirit, that coming happen on "PENTECOST"........ BINGO.
Oh my God, how many ways must this be explain before conception in made in your hearts?
YES, YES, indeed, for God is a Spirit, scripture, 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." @Truther, you thought I was going to use John 4:24 ..... didn't you.....well it's the same
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4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,...Please call it what the correct translation is; Holy Spirit - NOT Ghost. God is not a spook. As close as He came was, My Father and I are One. If you have seen me you have seen the Father. There are others. When He said on the cross, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me; He was quoting King David, from whom He came, in Psalms 22.
Adam was made in the likeness of him that was to come(the 1st Adam was made in the image of the last Adam). Romans 5:14.I don't understand the issue here. Since we are all created in the image of God, we are all gods, "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him;" Genesis 1:27
"I have said, Ye are gods [elohim]; and all of you are children of the most High." Psalm 82:6
And that was Jesus' defense: "The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)" John 10:33-34