The Lord's Side (Remaining neutral and non partisan)

[Episkopos]

A true Christian does not take sides with anything to do with this world or the flesh. We who walk with God and serve God are to remain non-partisan...neutral. We resist the baiting of the devil into a political camp. We love all people...not because of their race or skin colour. We love all men equally. So i can't take any side in this political demonstration of carnality. I must remain on the Lord's side. Carnal men want God for themselves. But He is the God of ALL flesh...yes, even the people you like to hate and blame. All men need to leave their sins behind and go over to the Lord's side. And this begins with they who say they follow Christ.,..but lie.

 

[Episkopos]

This whole political debacle we are seeing that has arisen from a cop killing a black man in Minnesota is just a litmus test that demonstrates where the church is getting it's life force from. What we are seeing is not good. Many believers are showing their true colours...that they are political in nature...carnal in their power. They can't see the evil in themselves...but look to blame others. They are only superficially converted to God and His ways. Their Christianity is no deeper than their race or culture. They are fully partisan and political creatures.

But this is a call to repentance to the church. Judgment will begin at the house of the Lord.

Where is the new creation in Christ? Where is the faith of Christ?

 

[Episkopos]

This time of testing is not haphazard. God is calling believers to repent...yes even black believers. (hard as that might seem to understand) But as long as people side with their emotions and try to support the flesh ..even in proxy for their black brethren...they will stop the work of God..which is a call to a deeper walk with God. This is a call to repentance for all men. So it only LOOKS like this is a typical time of being compassionate towards our fellow man...which of course it is on that level...but it is also a time where the devil is making his claims. The devil is ruling by dividing us. When Peter turned to Jesus to try sparing Him His suffering...Jesus rebuked Peter saying "get behind Me Satan". Jesus saw beyond the tender care of Peter that would have spared Jesus His suffering. So then we are to see things in that deeper way...IF...I say IF...we have an actual life with God. Otherwise we will be partisan like the world and fail the test. We will think this is just a type of Samaritan affair where we react with our own reasoning against the injustice we have been presented with...while ignoring all other injustices as being less severe.

There is more than one injustice going on here. We are not to choose which injustice we hate more. We are to eschew ALL injustice.

 

[theophilus]

Do you mean we shouldn't take a stand against such evils as abortion? We can take a passive stand for an evil if we fail to act against it.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

We will think this is just a type of Samaritan affair where we react with our own reasoning against the injustice we have been presented with...while ignoring all other injustices as being less severe.

There is more than one injustice going on here. We are not to choose which injustice we hate more. We are to eschew ALL injustice.

Well said. All the post you shared in this thread. It is like the homosexual thread of “what will you do?” I never could give a straight answer there because no it is not right, like this which has happened and the fight and rising between races. But at the same time (if I’ve understood you correctly) choosing a crusade and carrying a bullhorn blaring the fault of one while adultery and bitterness and hatred and even partially and hypocrisy goes completely acceptable. It is like choosing one thing of destruction while getting cozy with the rest of it. Similar to pet doctrines which are selected primarily to support our own cause and desires while neglecting the rest of the counsel of God that reveals those pet doctrines for what they are.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

They can't see the evil in themselves...but look to blame others.

2 Corinthians 12:19-21 Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying. [20] For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults: [21] And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

“For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not

Such as you would not
(imo) the above is when I come I fear I will not find you in repentance and bewailing of such things as have been done and that instead I will come and be seen of you all, as you would not rejecting the way: (James 4:7-10)

Lest, when I come again, My God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

“debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults” are acceptable? “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? [4] Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? [5] Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.” Matthew 7:3-5

This is a call to repentance for all men.

 

[Episkopos]

From my bru...a man called George : IT SEEMS TO ME, THAT PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS ARE HAVING A FIELD DAY, USING EASILY INFLUENCED HUMAN BEINGS TO DO THEIR BIDDING, EVEN THOSE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN.

SIN LIES AT THE DOOR .... BUT, YOU MUST MASTER IT, OR, IT WILL RULE OVER YOU, AND LEAD YOU DOWN A PATH THAT THERE IS NO RETURN FROM.

 

[Episkopos]

Do you mean we shouldn't take a stand against such evils as abortion? We can take a passive stand for an evil if we fail to act against it.

Would you kill an abortion doctor? What will you do? Will you put people under the law while you claim to be under grace? Would you put people in jail who have abortions.

Instead stop thinking about attacking individual sins unless God puts you there. Instead take an axe to the whole tree.

 

[amadeus]

@Episkopos
"[Wisdom ]She hath killed her beasts;..." Prov. 9:2
So where is the wisdom that should have killed or should be killing all of our beasts?

People are patriotic and tribal and clannish. Is that not the beastly nature of carnal man, be he white, red, yellow, black, Pharisee, Sadducee, Samaritan, Catholic, Protestant, Pentecostal, Mormon, JW, heathen, atheist, Jew, Republican, Democratic, Progressive, Liberal, Conservative and so forth?

"For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?" I Cor 3:3-4

So which way do we go? Why not to the fear of the Lord?

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." Prov 9:10

And then as Jesus said it:

"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matt 6:33-34

 

[amadeus]

Would you kill an abortion doctor? What will you do? Will you put people under the law while you claim to be under grace? Would you put people in jail who have abortions.

Instead stop thinking about attacking individual sins unless God puts you there. Instead take an axe to the whole tree.

"And now also the ax is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Matt 3:10

So then who is the wielder the axe and when?

"So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." Matt 13:27-30

 

[Timtofly]

When a believer does repent, it is up to the Holy Spirit to guide.

The command was to declare the Gospel. Tell those in your neighborhood that only Jesus can offer salvation from this current condition. It is not even making disciples now. It is about showing people sin, it's consequences, and the peace of God in Christ Jesus. It is still the Holy Spirit working in hearts and minds. We are just the sower of the truth of the Gospel.

It is not even our task to define, explain, or teach. It is Jesus crucified, for the sins of all mankind. All are welcome into the family right now, no matter their condition. The reason being all humanity, on an individual level has to choose individually. It is not a herd, clan, tribe, city, state, or nation. It is a single person decision. Each individual has to decide for themselves. How will every single person hear, unless another person tells them?

 

[Renniks]

Would you kill an abortion doctor? What will you do? Will you put people under the law while you claim to be under grace? Would you put people in jail who have abortions.

This is silly. Should a Christian not vote for people who will make abortion illegal and put abortion doctors in jail? Can a Christain not be a police officer and put criminals in jail? Are we just to stay home and never do anything to change our culture for the better?

 

[marks]

A true Christian does not take sides with anything to do with this world or the flesh. We who walk with God and serve God are to remain non-partisan...neutral. We resist the baiting of the devil into a political camp. We love all people...not because of their race or skin colour. We love all men equally. So i can't take any side in this political demonstration of carnality. I must remain on the Lord's side. Carnal men want God for themselves. But He is the God of ALL flesh...yes, even the people you like to hate and blame. All men need to leave their sins behind and go over to the Lord's side. And this begins with they who say they follow Christ.,..but lie.

I believe it is moral to help the oppressed.
And I believe we are to use our position in life to accomplish good for others.
I don't believe we should exit from civic administration, and from politics, and let that be the exclusive domain of the unbeliever.

Much love!

 

[Episkopos]

This is silly. Should a Christian not vote for people who will make abortion illegal and put abortion doctors in jail? Can a Christain not be a police officer and put criminals in jail? Are we just to stay home and never do anything to change our culture for the better?

Politics is not of God...but of this world subject to the devil. Are you a cultural Christian? A sunday believer? Are you more worldly than spiritual? Do you even understand what I'm talking about?

 

[Episkopos]

A Christian can be a cop...but he will not be yoked with the police culture. He will have a very hard time because he will be honest. A soldier can be a Christian but the same thing there. And a soldier will not kill others...he will be a medic or a stretcher-bearer. He will seek to save lives not take them. That is...IF he is really a disciple of Christ. But then there are the cultural Christians. hey...the mafia are cultural Christians. And they kill without any remorse.

 

[marks]

hey...the mafia are cultural Christians. And they kill without any remorse.

LOL!

 

[FHII]

yes even black believers. (hard as that might seem to understand) But as long as people side with their emotions and try to support the flesh ..even in proxy for their black brethren...they will stop the work of God..

Even black believers?!?! I was enjoying your posts until that. Why not even white believers?

 

[marks]

We will think this is just a type of Samaritan affair where we react with our own reasoning against the injustice we have been presented with...while ignoring all other injustices as being less severe.

Is that so?

Why do you assume that of others?

 

[marks]

A Christian can be a cop...but he will not be yoked with the police culture. He will have a very hard time because he will be honest.

Interestingly . . . the city I'm in has a large number of Christian police, and coincidentally, our protests over the past three days have all been peaceful. No riots. No looting. Nothing burned. No one hurt.

But I'm sure these things aren't connected.

 

[Episkopos]

Even black believers?!?! I was enjoying your posts until that. Why not even white believers?

Because the momentum is shifting to black racism against whites. Everybody knows of the racist tendencies of white believers. The KKK claim to be Christians...but cultural Christians...like so many in the West.