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There are also white people who don't cooperate with the police. The police don't put their feet on their throats and kill them. So why are the odds of getting killed bigger for resisting arrest higher for blacks than for whites?
See, this is just speculating. I suspect the police do whatever is needed to restrain whoever needs restraining. I also suspect that getting killed for resistance of arrest is higher for blacks because statistically there are more black criminals. So more cop screw ups for blacks is not racial, it's just the law of averages catching up.
 
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Number of police fatally shooting people.

...........2017
2018 2019 2020*
White ..457 ....399 ....370 ..172
Black ...223 ....209 ....235 ...88

It happens regardless of race.
 

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But this feels like the turning point for western civilization.
It will go down in history as the beginning of the collapse of the west.
Will Americans (and the Western world) learn anything from the Bolshevik Revolution?

It does not look that way. What is happening today in the USA is history repeating itself. But those who are supposed to be protecting citizens from civil war, bloodshed, anarchy, chaos, Socialism, and Communism seem to have abdicated their responsibilities. In fact, those who had sworn to uphold the Constitution have turned around and are doing everything in their power to violate it. And the feckless politicians are standing by.

This is similar to the failure of Tsar Nicholas II to do right by his people, the failure of the Provisional Government after his abdication to do right by their people, and the failure of the revolutionaries to do right by their people. “To do right by people” is to do what is socially honorable, morally just, and beneficial to all.

The History Department of Ohio State University has published an excellent article about the Bolshevik Revolution which led to the establishment of Communism in the Soviet Union. Everyone should read it and learn from it.The October Revolution in Russia. This article makes it perfectly clear that professional revolutionaries were involved to bringing revolution to Russia in 1917, a little over 100 years ago.

‘The “storming of the Winter Palace” has gone down in history as the climactic moment of the October Revolution. But overthrowing the existing government turned out to be the easy part. Over the next three years, the Bolsheviks (soon renamed Communists) would have to win power in a bloody civil war and reestablish order in a country that had descended into anarchy.’

The rioters in America are also paid professionals who specialize in murder and mayhem. Antifa has been rightly declared to be a domestic terrorist organization, but the Democrats are unwilling to accept that fact, and indeed support the rioters. O’Keefe of Project Veritas has said "In many places, it appears the violence is planned, organized & driven by anarchic left extremist groups — far-left extremist groups using Antifa-like tactics," he said.
Undercover video shows Antifa teaching how to 'eye gouge' - WND

What is Socialism, after you remove the veneer of respectability from it? It is “the violent expropriation of private property and the trampling of individual liberties”. And this is exactly what the Constitution of the United States protects against.

But when the Democratic Party of the USA has essentially said “F*** the Constitution”, then they plan to establish Socialism and Communism in “the land of the free and the home of the brave”. That is exactly what Bernie Sanders was promoting, but all the others were supporting. Neither Sanders nor Biden nor any Democrat gives a hoot about “the working class” or the Black or Hispanic populations. They simply use them to gain power and privilege while they systematically destroy their own country.

“Soviet socialism continued to be seen as an existential threat to liberal democracy and capitalism”. And the failure of Communism has shown that there will never be a Communist Utopia. The party bosses will grab everything they can, and leave the rest of the country to rot. Russia today is a good example, yet the Leftists in the USA want this. What China has done to Hong Kong should be an object lesson for Americans.

But it does not end there. Bolshevism led to Stalinism, which was even more brutal than Nazism, and multi-millions died for nothing. The state became the god of the Soviets, and any and all dissent was ruthlessly crushed. This is now true in China, but the weak and ignorant Western politicians did not learn any lessons. They became chums with the Chinese Communists and shipped all the industries and jobs to China.

The bogus panic created by the Wuhan virus pandemic introduced totalitarianism to North America. It is now crystal clear that there was absolutely no need for the lock downs, and they accomplished absolutely nothing. However, they did accomplish China’s goals for the USA – the destruction of the economy and social unrest which has led to rioting, looting, arson, murder, violence, and hatred in almost all the cities of America. If President Donald Trump does not take decisive action against the Anarchists, then the USA will descend into chaos and criminals will be free to roam the streets doing as they please, while criminals govern the land.

Christians know that the master manipulator behind evil and chaos in Satan. And as we approach the end of the age, sin and evil will grow exponentially. But this is also the time for the power of the Gospel -- the power of God unto salvation -- to be manifested worldwide.
 

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I think this will eventually blow over.....until another black man gets murdered in cold blood on camera three or four years later, wash, rinse and repeat. "The more things change, the more they stay the same" is a saying that fits this situation to a T.
 

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Will Americans (and the Western world) learn anything from the Bolshevik Revolution?

It does not look that way. What is happening today in the USA is history repeating itself. But those who are supposed to be protecting citizens from civil war, bloodshed, anarchy, chaos, Socialism, and Communism seem to have abdicated their responsibilities. In fact, those who had sworn to uphold the Constitution have turned around and are doing everything in their power to violate it. And the feckless politicians are standing by.

This is similar to the failure of Tsar Nicholas II to do right by his people, the failure of the Provisional Government after his abdication to do right by their people, and the failure of the revolutionaries to do right by their people. “To do right by people” is to do what is socially honorable, morally just, and beneficial to all.

The History Department of Ohio State University has published an excellent article about the Bolshevik Revolution which led to the establishment of Communism in the Soviet Union. Everyone should read it and learn from it.The October Revolution in Russia. This article makes it perfectly clear that professional revolutionaries were involved to bringing revolution to Russia in 1917, a little over 100 years ago.

‘The “storming of the Winter Palace” has gone down in history as the climactic moment of the October Revolution. But overthrowing the existing government turned out to be the easy part. Over the next three years, the Bolsheviks (soon renamed Communists) would have to win power in a bloody civil war and reestablish order in a country that had descended into anarchy.’

The rioters in America are also paid professionals who specialize in murder and mayhem. Antifa has been rightly declared to be a domestic terrorist organization, but the Democrats are unwilling to accept that fact, and indeed support the rioters. O’Keefe of Project Veritas has said "In many places, it appears the violence is planned, organized & driven by anarchic left extremist groups — far-left extremist groups using Antifa-like tactics," he said.
Undercover video shows Antifa teaching how to 'eye gouge' - WND

What is Socialism, after you remove the veneer of respectability from it? It is “the violent expropriation of private property and the trampling of individual liberties”. And this is exactly what the Constitution of the United States protects against.

But when the Democratic Party of the USA has essentially said “F*** the Constitution”, then they plan to establish Socialism and Communism in “the land of the free and the home of the brave”. That is exactly what Bernie Sanders was promoting, but all the others were supporting. Neither Sanders nor Biden nor any Democrat gives a hoot about “the working class” or the Black or Hispanic populations. They simply use them to gain power and privilege while they systematically destroy their own country.

“Soviet socialism continued to be seen as an existential threat to liberal democracy and capitalism”. And the failure of Communism has shown that there will never be a Communist Utopia. The party bosses will grab everything they can, and leave the rest of the country to rot. Russia today is a good example, yet the Leftists in the USA want this. What China has done to Hong Kong should be an object lesson for Americans.

But it does not end there. Bolshevism led to Stalinism, which was even more brutal than Nazism, and multi-millions died for nothing. The state became the god of the Soviets, and any and all dissent was ruthlessly crushed. This is now true in China, but the weak and ignorant Western politicians did not learn any lessons. They became chums with the Chinese Communists and shipped all the industries and jobs to China.

The bogus panic created by the Wuhan virus pandemic introduced totalitarianism to North America. It is now crystal clear that there was absolutely no need for the lock downs, and they accomplished absolutely nothing. However, they did accomplish China’s goals for the USA – the destruction of the economy and social unrest which has led to rioting, looting, arson, murder, violence, and hatred in almost all the cities of America. If President Donald Trump does not take decisive action against the Anarchists, then the USA will descend into chaos and criminals will be free to roam the streets doing as they please, while criminals govern the land.

Christians know that the master manipulator behind evil and chaos in Satan. And as we approach the end of the age, sin and evil will grow exponentially. But this is also the time for the power of the Gospel -- the power of God unto salvation -- to be manifested worldwide.
My Communist mate claims that when they get in to power in Australia they will kill all of the lowlife and anyone who opposes them and he wants the job to chop heads off if that's the case. because he has no kids as no one can threaten him with such but he wants to kill the criminals and anyone who is wealthy, he has $2 million to his name but is happy to loose the lot, if everyone is equal under communism, he has always been in a Government job and is a Jew.
He totally believes that it's the People who will rule :rolleyes:. I pointed out that the People become nothing at all and only one total bastard rules and everyone totally fears the Mob who are totally fears the Leadership. I believe that it's the unions that have pushed such dribble into the members heads for many years, and all the dimwits just follow along with it.
One of my best mates was a total union man his whole life until he voiced his opinion at a meeting one day and he found out the hard way at how they played the game, your voice means totally nothing at all ! they own you and you better play the cards their way. it was a nasty surprise for him, being the most union devoted man you will ever find. it was a wake up call for him but he still has faith in Socialism and Communism.
People who work in wagers jobs do not have to think outside the box much, so they lack a lot of reality experience of life. they are like talking to a child. the only thing in their lives is football or watching some sport idolising some clowns, that their mind pays attention to outside of working hours.
They are living in a fantasy world, hooked on so much dribble that they have been indoctrinated with over the years.
 

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Link: Buffalo, New York police officers suspended for shoving man to ground

An entire unit of the Buffalo Police Department resigned from their assignments Friday after two officers were suspended amid outcry over video showing officers shoving a 75-year-old man to the ground, according to the Buffalo News and other media outlets.........

"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square," said Buffalo Police Benevolent Association President John Evans. "It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards."

:rolleyes: "Just following orders"......Yeah, meanwhile we have people shouting "NOT ALL COPS ARE LIKE THAT". Well, maybe so, but this proves that a ton of them are like that. They resign and cry like little chumps because they want to be able to crack peoples skulls and choke them out with impunity. It took a white man getting knocked on his behind for them to do something about it right away, something unheard of when the skin color is darker. Before telling the citizen to be peaceful, ask the police to be peaceful first. Its insanity to blame the victim for "resisting arrest", or whatever the case may be while these thugs just wail on you at will like we're supposed to be their punching bag when I'm not even doing anything illegal.
 

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Will Americans (and the Western world) learn anything from the Bolshevik Revolution?

Millenials and gen z wouldn't know about that. Their definition of socialism is wrong.
It's an ideological utopia that off course is an impossible fantasy.

Christians know that the master manipulator behind evil and chaos in Satan. And as we approach the end of the age, sin and evil will grow exponentially. But this is also the time for the power of the Gospel -- the power of God unto salvation -- to be manifested worldwide.

Amen
 

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I think this will eventually blow over.....until another black man gets murdered in cold blood on camera three or four years later, wash, rinse and repeat. "The more things change, the more they stay the same" is a saying that fits this situation to a T.
Cops kill white people, too, more of them, too. These killings never make national headlines because no one cares. As far as I know, they haven't released the race of the cop?
Maryland man fatally shot by police 'while asleep in his bedroom'
 

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As far as I know, they haven't released the race of the cop?
Do you recall when they did not release the race of the Chinese who were in Wuhan? Just called them "Americans" so people would assume they were white Americans. And then Trump brought them all back into the USA to infect others. And now he is resuming flights in and out of China.
 
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Do you recall when they did not release the race of the Chinese who were in Wuhan? Just called them "Americans" so people would assume they were white Americans. And then Trump brought them all back into the USA to infect others. And now he is resuming flights in and out of China.

What does that have to do with the tea in China anyway? Ha

Proof?
 

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Cops kill white people, too, more of them, too. These killings never make national headlines because no one cares. As far as I know, they haven't released the race of the cop?
Maryland man fatally shot by police 'while asleep in his bedroom'

We're talking a difference of hundreds of thousands of black men killed since the late 90's by cops compared to the white man. Over 210 black men are killed per year by the police, reaching almost 300 in 2015. And I won't bother bringing up the death rate for black women since its just as minuscule as the white deaths in itself with it being almost in the single digits. After Ahmaud Arbery getting gunned down in the street, Breonna Taylor getting pumped full of lead by police who didn't even bother identifying themselves, and numerous others this year alone, the gasket finally blew. They were practically asking for it, knowing how they ALWAYS get off light.
 

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What does that have to do with the tea in China anyway? Ha. Proof?
Do you really think that anyone other than Chinese would have been in Wuhan at that time Dec/Jan (probably visiting relatives)?
 

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We're talking a difference of hundreds of thousands of black men killed since the late 90's by cops compared to the white man. Over 210 black men are killed per year by the police, reaching almost 300 in 2015. And I won't bother bringing up the death rate for black women since its just as minuscule as the white deaths in itself with it being almost in the single digits. After Ahmaud Arbery getting gunned down in the street, Breonna Taylor getting pumped full of lead by police who didn't even bother identifying themselves, and numerous others this year alone, the gasket finally blew. They were practically asking for it, knowing how they ALWAYS get off light.
Let's not forget all the black on black shootings in Chicago over the past few years, including this one.

Here is a chart showing how many, by race are killed by police every year. Whites top the chart.

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista
 
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I agree with Colin Powell. . . .

Colin Powell: Trump 'drifted away' from Constitution

After a week in which President Donald Trump threatened to use military force against protesters, Colin Powell and other retired military leaders blasted the commander-in-chief for taking steps they say will harm the relationship between the military and U.S. citizens.

Powell, who served as Secretary of State under former President George W. Bush and was previously chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told CNN's "State of the Union" that Trump is "drifting" away from the Constitution and said he's a habitual liar.

"We have a Constitution. We have to follow that Constitution. And the president's drifted away from it," Powell said, offering praise for military leaders who have spoken out against the president in recent days.

Powell, who did not vote for Trump in 2016, said he would vote for Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, this fall.

Trump responded to Powell on Twitter, calling him "a real stiff who was very responsible for getting us into the disastrous Middle East Wars" and that Powell "just announced he will be voting for another stiff, Sleepy Joe Biden."

Echoing Trump's former Defense Secretary James Mattis, Powell said he agreed that Trump is the first president in his lifetime who is not trying to unite the country. Powell said the protests have shown him the country is at "a turning point."
 

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Let's not forget all the black on black shootings in Chicago over the past few years, including this one.

Here is a chart showing how many, by race are killed by police every year. Whites top the chart.

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

Of course BLM and the fake news will ignore that, heck they have ignore David Dorn that they killed who was black because they don't care about people period. BLM are the true racist
 
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Of course BLM and the fake news will ignore that, heck they have ignore David Dorn that they killed who was black because they don't care about people period. BLM are the true racist
Did you read the notes? Or did you see only the part you wanted to see?

Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 429 civilians having been shot, 88 of whom were Black, as of June 4, 2020. In 2018, there were 996 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 this figure increased to 1,004. Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 30 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.

If you click on the link, you find it's 30 per million if you're black, 23 if Hispanic, 12 for whites. Everyone should be concerned. I suppose that may be the reason we saw so many whites out protesting too.
 

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Did you read the notes? Or did you see only the part you wanted to see?

Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 429 civilians having been shot, 88 of whom were Black, as of June 4, 2020. In 2018, there were 996 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 this figure increased to 1,004. Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 30 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.

If you click on the link, you find it's 30 per million if you're black, 23 if Hispanic, 12 for whites. Everyone should be concerned. I suppose that may be the reason we saw so many whites out protesting too.
There are 330,000 million people in the US, 1,004 people were killed in 2019 (regardless of race), that is .003 or 3/1000 deaths. Is this an alarming number? Out of 330,000,000.

Is there no room to question what these people are doing to cause the police to show up in the first place? I was taught - as a white male - that if I do a crime (how big or how small), I might end up dead.
 
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