"Pushing the Homosexual Agenda"

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True but they do need some some law in USA to protect Churches and Christian schools and other religious places, that will allow them to be free in who they employ or not employ whoever they wish, or in a Churches case, to have the freedom of choice of who is put into certain positions.

I don't know if USA has such freedoms/laws in place for Churches, Christian schools, Synagogues, Jewish Schools, etc.

I hope that SCOTUS will address that in a future case.
 
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True but they do need some some law in USA to protect Churches and Christian schools and other religious places, that will allow them to be free in who they employ or not employ whoever they wish, or in a Churches case, to have the freedom of choice of who is put into certain positions.

I don't know if USA has such freedoms/laws in place for Churches, Christian schools, Synagogues, Jewish Schools, etc.
I don't think churches themselves have the slightest problem. Think about the Catholic Church. Women can't be priests. That doesn't pose a problem for them. They're practicing their religion in their church. It's schools, hospitals and other businesses which operate as businesses but want the privileges of churches even though they operate independently of churches. I don't think Catholic schools where I live would have a problem since the churches own and operate the schools. Catholic schools in many places are independent of the church, run by secular people.

There is a hospital close by too that used to owned and operated by an order of nuns. It was mostly nuns working there. They could also refuse to hire anyone who wasn't Catholic. It got sold to someone and now operates as a for profit business. Now they have to obey the laws other businesses do.

The problem seems to be businessmen wanting the privileges granted to churches. What if I am a Methodist billionaire? Should I have the right to say I'll hire only Methodists to work for me? Methodist chuches have the right to demand all their clergy be Methodists -- do I as a person in business have the same right? What about a Jewish billionaire from Russia? Should he have the right to buy a business in the US and fire all the Christians? Should a Muslim employer be able to demand all the women working for him wear veils?
 
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True but they do need some some law in USA to protect Churches and Christian schools and other religious places, that will allow them to be free in who they employ or not employ whoever they wish, or in a Churches case, to have the freedom of choice of who is put into certain positions.

I don't know if USA has such freedoms/laws in place for Churches, Christian schools, Synagogues, Jewish Schools, etc.

as long as they are required to teach the same doctrine that is taught by the churches or schools, i see no reason why a homosexual shouldn't be allowed to be an employee or more importantly, why they would want to work at any of these institutions.

and there is the double negative to prove it!
 

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There was a time in my life where I felt the same way, however, the reality is that we live in a world where gay people exist, nearly 10 million in the USA alone. Reality should not something that should kids from knowing exists. We need to teach them critical thinking skills and confront them with this world's realities so they can be prepared to be productive and kind in the real world.

Homosexuals do not reproduce, they recruit.

So, to affiliate children with the idea that "gay is ok", within a curriculum, is a lying deception.
The lie is that "we are just acknowledging they are among us".. = LIE.
The reality is, children are being indoctrinated by being associated with the idea that "Gay is OK for THEM to choose".
What does this mean?
It means that schools are being used to recruit children into the gay lifestyle by putting this understanding of it, into their HEADS when they are still children.
Try to understand, Truth OK, that the sex acts of the person, is what defines them as a HOMOSEXUAL.
They are defined by their gay sex acts......
Do you understand? So, when you teach a child in school about "gay", its not about the person, or the group, its about WHY they are gay.
= GAY SEX ACTS.
A Homosexual is defined as a person who practices gay sex acts as a LIFESTYLE.
So, its wrong to teach a child that this is "morally and socially " ok.
IT IS NOT !
Its unbelievable, how demonic and unholy this is......how completely immoral, that children are being recruited into this lifestyle in school.
And the worst part is that is LEGAL.
 
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Homosexuals do not reproduce, they recruit.

So, to affiliate children with the idea that "gay is ok", within a curriculum, is a lying deception.
The lie is that "we are just acknowledging they are among us".. = LIE.
The reality is, children are being indoctrinated by being associated with the idea that "Gay is OK for THEM to choose".
What does this mean?
It means that schools are being used to recruit children into the gay lifestyle by putting this understanding of it, into their HEADS when they are still children.
Try to understand, Truth OK, that the sex acts of the person, is what defines them as a HOMOSEXUAL.
They are defined by their gay sex acts......
Do you understand? So, when you teach a child in school about "gay", its not about the person, or the group, its about WHY they are gay.
= GAY SEX ACTS.
A Homosexual is defined as a person who practices gay sex acts as a LIFESTYLE.
So, its wrong to teach a child that this is "morally and socially " ok.
IT IS NOT !
Its unbelievable, how demonic and unholy this is......how completely immoral, that children are being recruited into this lifestyle in school.
And the worst part is that is LEGAL.
The most revealing part of that is how it's basically an admission that you could potentially be convinced to be gay.
 
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An apt comment I saw today....

"Imagine being such a miserable, bitter, hate filled individual, that you get disgusted at hearing a demographic is entitled a source of income to put food on the table & keep the lights on, & getting outraged at a legal ruling cementing that right"
 

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equal protection under the law. being fired for being a homosexual is wrong,
i agree on that BUT to have seperate special civil rights is wrong. as long as they can go to work and do the job. keep there personal life to themselves / then i have no issue how ever going to work and flashing the i am gay and i have gay rights is %100 wrong and if not careful .this supreme court vote will turn into a gay civil rights. we already approved same sex marriage . which has turned us into a modern day sodom and gomorrah. your sex life belongs in the bed room ! if one is gay they have the same rights as me... transgenders i have no use for . one of them he/shes use same bathroom as my wife or any other lil girl or lady. they need flogged
 

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Even though I say that, if a homosexual man wants to work somewhere and wants to come to work in woman's clothing, and the boss does not agree with him dressing that way at work.

The boss has every right to tell him that's not appropriate to wear at my workplace.
exaactly
 
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i agree on that BUT to have seperate special civil rights is wrong. as long as they can go to work and do the job. keep there personal life to themselves / then i have no issue how ever going to work and flashing the i am gay and i have gay rights is %100 wrong and if not careful .this supreme court vote will turn into a gay civil rights. we already approved same sex marriage . which has turned us into a modern day sodom and gomorrah. your sex life belongs in the bed room ! if one is gay they have the same rights as me... transgenders i have no use for . one of them he/shes use same bathroom as my wife or any other lil girl or lady. they need flogged

well, my gf employer just fired a man who came to work as a women - he had decided to start the process for a sex change. They used the excuse that he had been late twice in the past month. i live in one of the most liberal cities in America and still, the guy could do nothing because the employer can fire anyone for any reason. thanks to this law, it can no longer be a reason to fire someone
 
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well, my gf employer just fired a man who came to work as a women - he had decided to start the process for a sex change. They used the excuse that he had been late twice in the past month. i live in one of the most liberal cities in America and still, the guy could do nothing because the employer can fire anyone for any reason. thanks to this law, it can no longer be a reason to fire someone
this si exactly what the supreme court has generated .see the perv got his/her just
 

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i agree on that BUT to have seperate special civil rights is wrong.
The Civil Rights Act also protects from discrimination on the basis of religion. Is that a "special civil right"?

as long as they can go to work and do the job. keep there personal life to themselves / then i have no issue
Does that apply to everyone? Are straights not allowed to talk about their spouses, kids, hobbies, etc.?

how ever going to work and flashing the i am gay and i have gay rights is %100 wrong
If there's a work picnic, can they bring their spouse like everyone else? Can they put pictures of their family on their desk? Can they share stories about their family?

and if not careful .this supreme court vote will turn into a gay civil rights. we already approved same sex marriage . which has turned us into a modern day sodom and gomorrah. your sex life belongs in the bed room ! if one is gay they have the same rights as me... transgenders i have no use for . one of them he/shes use same bathroom as my wife or any other lil girl or lady. they need flogged
Gee, another Christian bigot. What a shock.
 

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The Civil Rights Act also protects from discrimination on the basis of religion. Is that a "special civil right"?


Does that apply to everyone? Are straights not allowed to talk about their spouses, kids, hobbies, etc.?


If there's a work picnic, can they bring their spouse like everyone else? Can they put pictures of their family on their desk? Can they share stories about their family?


Gee, another Christian bigot. What a shock.
a bigot lol aND THAT MAKES YOU A WHAT??? hmmm
 

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Here's what you're missing.....I don't give a crap what the Bible says....about anything. If you think it's "the word of god", then by all means live your life by it, just don't try and force anyone else to live according to your religion. When you try and do that, you put yourself in the same category as the Taliban.

For your information, most people here do give a "crap" about what the bible says so you are on very lonely ground.

I was not aware that anyone here was forcing anyone to live according to their religion. Probably because they do not need to as most people here are already living according to their religion.

Putting Christians in the same category as the Taliban is childish in the extreme. I have followed the activities of the Taliban for a long time and to date, I have not read of any Christians murdering and slaughtering women and children.

Any more bright ideas you want us to know about?
 
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I don't think churches themselves have the slightest problem. Think about the Catholic Church. Women can't be priests. That doesn't pose a problem for them. They're practicing their religion in their church. It's schools, hospitals and other businesses which operate as businesses but want the privileges of churches even though they operate independently of churches. I don't think Catholic schools where I live would have a problem since the churches own and operate the schools. Catholic schools in many places are independent of the church, run by secular people.

There is a hospital close by too that used to owned and operated by an order of nuns. It was mostly nuns working there. They could also refuse to hire anyone who wasn't Catholic. It got sold to someone and now operates as a for profit business. Now they have to obey the laws other businesses do.

The problem seems to be businessmen wanting the privileges granted to churches. What if I am a Methodist billionaire? Should I have the right to say I'll hire only Methodists to work for me? Methodist chuches have the right to demand all their clergy be Methodists -- do I as a person in business have the same right? What about a Jewish billionaire from Russia? Should he have the right to buy a business in the US and fire all the Christians? Should a Muslim employer be able to demand all the women working for him wear veils?
i read an op-ed piece by...kathleen turner maybe? washpost for sure, yesterday, i guess Catholic schools are in a lot of trouble right now
 
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