WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN A NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH?

[Stan B]

SBV (Stan B Version)
Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God.
31 And behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb a lump of clay...

Yeap!! That's what it took to become one of us in the flesh.

 

[Joseph77]

Yeap!! That's what it took to become one of us in the flesh.

What other false teachings are you in complete harmony with then ?
Why continue posting known false teachings anyway ? Why bother ?

 

[Illuminator]

Yeah, He was talking to David!! It never says that everything that starts out in a womb will even be born. He knew who they would be from the foundation of the world, as well as those who would not be born at a specific time, but their spirit is still with God awaiting the appointed time.

No, David was talking to God. Now you assert the pre-existence of souls. One heresy after another. You don't know when to quit.

30. The lack of a definitive teaching authority in Protestant (as with the Catholic magisterium) makes many individual Protestants (Stan B) think that they have a direct line to God, notwithstanding all of Christian Tradition and the history of biblical exegesis (a "Bible, Holy Spirit and me" mentality). Such people are generally under-educated theologically, unteachable, lack humility, and have no business making presumed "infallible" statements about the nature of Christianity.​

Read more: https://www.catholicfidelity.com/apologetics-topics/misc/a150-reasons-why-i-am-catholic-by-dave-armstrong/

 

[Stan B]

Their spirit.
Whose spirit ?
The spirit God gives ?

Yep! Just the most elementary theology!

"Man's body returns to the dust from whence it came; And the spirit returns to God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7

 

[Joseph77]

Yep! Just the most elementary theology!

"Man's body returns to the dust from whence it came; And the spirit returns to God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7

Not in harmony with the false teachings you posted about,
but only from Scripture, is the spirit God gives ALIVE ?

 

[Joseph77]

For those who read this and do not realize this, this post is a parody of the false beliefs and false posts of the other poster who thinks babies are just dead lumps of clay.... i.e. it is not a true quote ... but rather exposes directly the false teachings espoused/posted by the one who denies God's Life Given.... (in the womb) ....

SBV (Stan B Version)
Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God.
31 And behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb a lump of clay...

 

[Joseph77]

Yeah, He was talking to David!! It never says that everything that starts out in a womb will even be born. He knew who they would be from the foundation of the world, as well as those who would not be born at a specific time, but their spirit is still with God awaiting the appointed time.

No, David was talking to God. Now you assert the pre-existence of souls. One heresy after another.

Thanks for catching that -- I did not at all see that coming , not even when I read it - that the false teachings that poster believes include the pre-existence of souls , totally wrong and contrary to all God's Plan, All Scripture, and Jesus.

That actually makes all the threads and posts (from such false teachings/ sources) unworthy of any attention at all, except to warn others ....

 

[Stan B]

30. The lack of a definitive teaching authority in Protestant (as with the Catholic magisterium) makes many individual Protestants (Stan B) think that they have a direct line to God, notwithstanding all of Christian Tradition​

I have no interest in discussing Romanism. I aleady know more about that than you will ever know. It is merely a pagan cult that was active long before the Advent.

Roman Catholicism, is merely a continuation of pagan worship of the goddess, "Queen of Heaven" to whom the the pope kneels before her graven image!! This evil "Queen of Heaven" cult was known to prophet Jeremiah. They were so evil and beyond redemption that God instructed the prophet: "Do not pray for this people, and do not lift up cry or prayer for them, and do not intercede with Me; for I do not hear you." Jeremiah 7:18

"The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough to make cakes for the Queen of Heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods in order to spite Me." Jeremiah 7:18

These round cakes, used in the Catholic eucharist, I see promoted in avatars on this site, are like the round cake in honour of her virgin born Sun God, Tamuz.

Roman Catholicism has carried on this "Queen of Heaven" cult under a new name, of the Ever-Virgin of the Immaculate Conception, and all that sort of nonsense, but it is still the same demonic pagan cult from inception.​

 

[Stan B]

What other false teachings are you in complete harmony with then ?
Why continue posting known false teachings anyway ? Why bother ?

Because every time you disagree with me, convinces me that I am correct.

 

[Joseph77]

Because every time you disagree with me, convinces me that I am correct.

Believe me, that is an invalid non-sequitur. The false teachings in your posts have been exposed by many, not just by me, and are clearly opposed entirely to Scripture, not just a little bit.
i.e. your standard, whatever it is , is broken, like idolatry, by which you judge something true or false.
The sources you stated that you are "in harmony " with are known to be the source of many false teachings, so you trusting or believing in them has led you only in more errors.
Trust Jesus instead - always - turn to Jesus and call on Jesus, seeking the truth, keep seeking the truth, and never give up.
The key ? The key , I don't know exactly, but it is when you find out the one you believed long ago lied to you - tricked you, deceived you, and led you astray. That is just the start of what could be a very difficult time/ journey to truth.

The more you post, the more is revealed of the errors - but mostly just leaves on the tree - the root is found long ago, for now partly hidden, maybe revealed in your posts like your sources "in harmony" , so
perhaps, if you decide to turn to God , the obstacles and tricks that were used by the enemy can be dismantled....
it is up to you though - no one can change your direction , the direction you chose , except you.

In the mean time, all that can be done appears to be continuing to expose any false idea, false gospel, false post, if and when it shows up, even if the source remains unchanged.

 

[Joseph77]

I have no interest in discussing Romanism. I aleady know more about that than you will ever know. It is merely a pagan cult that was active long before the Advent.

Curious and more curious - the very source of some of the teachings you said (posted) you were happy to be in harmony with,
you now call "merely a pagan cult" ..... a very confusing, curious turn....

 

[Joseph77]

Yep! Just the most elementary theology!

"Man's body returns to the dust from whence it came; And the spirit returns to God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7

Note (perhaps you did) the spirit God Gives is ALIVE , not dead, not a lifeless lump of clay ....

Everyone who receives a living spirit from God, likewise acknowledges this.

 

[marksman]

What are you trying to say?
The texts are exceedingly clear in John 14, 15,16.

This thread is " Do you want to belong to a NTC." My writings are based on what is recorded in the Acts of the Apostles which is a record of the NTC. If you want to discuss John 14,15 and 16 I suggest you start a thread to do that and give us your exegesis of those chapters. I suggest you avoid one-liners if you want to do it justice.

 

[Anthony D'Arienzo]

This thread is " Do you want to belong to a NTC." My writings are based on what is recorded in the Acts of the Apostles which is a record of the NTC. If you want to discuss John 14,15 and 16 I suggest you start a thread to do that and give us your exegesis of those chapters. I suggest you avoid one-liners if you want to do it justice.

what happens in Acts are a direct result of John 14,15,16. they go together

 

[marksman]

what happens in Acts are a direct result of John 14,15,16. they go together

please note. This thread is about the NTC as recorded in the Acts of the Apostles.

 

[Joseph77]

I was not aware that 1 billion catholics contributes to this thread.

Well, they likely do outnumber the true believers over one thousand to one. On some other forums it is even more obvious....
Here it might only be 200 or 500 to one..... (seen and unseen; viewers, readers, members, posters, and 'active support' of some of the posters contributors of the false gospel; they have practically unlimited resources behind them in the worldly way, just nothing true spiritually. )

 

[Joseph77]

I recommend to keep this as an essential guide... Matthew Chapter 7 (KJV)
[13] Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
THE CROWD IS WRONG! ... AND there is a common denominator that connects ALL wide gate/broad road groups, which is outlined in post #373... ...

Yes, with all of God's Word, Truth God Reveals in His Word, as God Says, to Whom He Says ... only few, not many

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[Joseph77]

QUOTE="marksman, post: 762979, member: 1136"]The icing on the cake for me is what happened after the healing. In verse 11 it says that all the people ran together to them (Peter, John, and the walking man) greatly amazed.

Once again Peter was on the ball. He didn't just stand there to accept their adulation. He jumped in with both feet and gave them the facts.

Which was "Hey, it had nothing at all to do with us. Jesus is the go-to guy. You know the one you had crucified. It was the power of his name and faith in that name that made all this happen. But don't worry because all this was foretold by the prophets so get on board and repent, get those sins cleared out, and do you know what? God is going to send this same Jesus again and if you doubt that, all the prophets said it is going to happen so don't take our word for it.

The fact is God wants to bless you and he can if you turn away from your sins. What could be simpler than that?

I know he didn't use those exact words but you get my drift. The miraculous opened the door for Peter to lay it on the line and let them know what was what. Who needs to arrange mass evangelistic meetings? Just a miracle now and then will do it for you.[/QUOTE
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The Truth then is still the Truth Today - God's Word never changed.... mankind is still wicked , fallen and perverse, and encourages perversion.
The True Assembly of Jesus' permanent disciples walks with Jesus Daily, follows Jesus wherever He Goes, as written. We will not follow another voice.

Yes, all foretold by God in His Word, reliable and true. His few people cannot be overcome no matter the so-called "odds" against us - even though we be martyrs daily, like sheep led to slaughter... we do not deny Him, we do not deny His Name, we do not deny our faith, not even to go along with the cvid deception.....

 

[marksman]

Your "experience and study" is clearly of the bigotted anti-Catholic variety. This is evident in your stupid insults.
Here, you claim to have been in the RCIA program, and the first thing a priests asks a potential convert is WHY they want to become Catholic. No priest in his right mind would allow a frothing-at-the-mouth anti-Catholic bigot to be part of a faith building milieu. Name the priest and the parish where you say you were "expected to know" OR STOP LYING.
Another LIE. The Church encourages us to vote for candidates who uphold moral laws, but never tells us who we must vote for. Cite any source where the priest tells people how to vote OR STOP LYING. This is just hate speech. Sex abuse is a serious sin, not church policy. You are so full of hate you can't tell the difference.
A non-sequitur fallacy. First, that was 50 years ago. Second, every institution at that time did the same thing. Third, enabling bishops at that time followed the advice of psychologists who oversold their "therapy" and shifting them was part of it. They were appointed and accountable to the courts but nobody ever mentions that. Are the victims parents deaf and dumb? Some bishops at that time didn't know how else to handle the problem, they just did what everybody else did at that time, and we now know it was wrong. Now, priests and bishops are obligated, by Vatican directives, to call the cops, but you don't care about that.
Bad priests are dead, in jail or thrown out of ministry. Enabling bishops have long since been corrected/disciplined, but you don't care about that either.
You don't know much about teenagers. Normal teenagers would punch the priest in the mouth and rightly so. Homosexual teenagers would not. 80% of all cases did not involve children, teenagers are not children. The bulk of the scandals was homosexuality, not pedophilia. Are you covering up for homosexuals by majoring in the minors?
Scandal I was the worst crisis in the history of the Church. Yes, it happened.
Scandal II is perpetuating the myth, along with secular media, that nothing has been done about it. I have proven that Catholicism is not a cult, and you respond by playing the ever so popular, worn out, sex abuse card.

There is a "report abuse" button on the main page of many diocese, if not all. Does your church have one? Or does it even have a web page? Or do you even have a church?

2011 Annual Report
99.98% OF PRIESTS ARE INNOCENT

Dec 5, 2013
Vatican announces new papal advisory commission on sex abuse

JULY 07, 2014
Pope's Homily at Mass With Sexual Abuse Victims - ZENIT - English

21 September 2017
Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors

FEBRUARY 17, 2018
Pope renews commission on sexual abuse, Vatican promises victims more say

Then there is the HUGE problem of sex abuse by public school teachers who are protected by their unions. No outrage there. The identity of abusers is more important than kids, right marksman?

We are not talking about public school teachers.

 

[marksman]

I disagree

Be my guest.