What Keeps Us From Sinning In Heaven?

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How will we keep from sinning throughout eternity?


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CharismaticLady

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The lack of a carnal body and it's nature.

This is precisely why we must die first or be shed of this body in the rapture.

Our present body and it's nature hate God, and are not invited to the party.

We are not in our carnal nature if we are born again. Romans 8:9 This must happen BEFORE your body dies.
 

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The lack of a carnal body and it's nature.

This is precisely why we must die first or be shed of this body in the rapture.

Our present body and it's nature hate God, and are not invited to the party.
They all had perfect, sinless natures.
 
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You are quite mistaken. Those who die in Christ have A SOLID GUARANTEE of their resurrection. That's a solid hope.

We are talking about sin, and I was showing you your quote, specifically, "purifieth himself,

IOW, those who say they belong to Christ, yet are still slaves of sin, will not inherit eternal life.
 
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Well, you being without sin should be able to answer not only my question to you, but also my question to Barney. Who knows you could actually prevent him pondering another 40 years?

I answered his (#46 and #52); what was your question, besides the joke?
 

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Thinking back to when Lucifer first rebelled. Perfect he was. As the covering cherub he more than any other closest to the throne. Yet he found reason to think that he could run the outfit better than God.
Adam and Eve were not so privileged. They were young. Just learning. Yet still perfect and God walked with them often, explaining, teaching, having a good time. And they also rebelled.
Why? I think it comes down to not fully understanding who God is. What He is like.
They acted on a limited appreciation of who He is... Even Lucifer, as close as he was.
So what do we have that they don't?
Calvary.
We have the ultimate expression and absolute Truth that God is Love. A love so all encompassing, so self sacrificial, so benevolent, that we can rest assured in that love knowing that He cares for our total well being and that we are perfectly secure forever without ever again having to do our own thing, go our own way, provide for ourselves anything... In other words, never again mistrust God and sin against Him.
Calvary. That's the difference. That's why we will never sin again. It ought to be why we will not sin now.
 

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Thinking back to when Lucifer first rebelled. Perfect he was. As the covering cherub he more than any other closest to the throne. Yet he found reason to think that he could run the outfit better than God.
Adam and Eve were not so privileged. They were young. Just learning. Yet still perfect and God walked with them often, explaining, teaching, having a good time. And they also rebelled.
Why? I think it comes down to not fully understanding who God is. What He is like.
They acted on a limited appreciation of who He is... Even Lucifer, as close as he was.
So what do we have that they don't?
Calvary.
We have the ultimate expression and absolute Truth that God is Love. A love so all encompassing, so self sacrificial, so benevolent, that we can rest assured in that love knowing that He cares for our total well being and that we are perfectly secure forever without ever again having to do our own thing, go our own way, provide for ourselves anything... In other words, never again mistrust God and sin against Him.
Calvary. That's the difference. That's why we will never sin again. It ought to be why we will not sin now.
This is the difference between being saved and becoming a son.

good post!
 

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Calvary. That's the difference. That's why we will never sin again. It ought to be why we will not sin now.

The way I see it, it is the seed of the Father that empowers us to no longer want to sin. 1 John 3:9. Jesus was conceived from it, thus He did not sin, and the baptism of the Holy Spirit is how we receive the seed of the Father. Those of us who are actually born again have a new nature that is the opposite of the old carnal nature, and enables us to partake of the divine nature of God. 2 Peter 1:2-4; Romans 8:9
 

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@BarnyFife

Could you please edit your poll and take out "like robots"? You may not agree, but it is the only one that is scriptural, and we who believe the scriptures that say so, do not need to be mocked.
 

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John 3:34-35 KJV
[34] For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. [35] The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
 

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The way I see it, it is the seed of the Father that empowers us to no longer want to sin. 1 John 3:9. Jesus was conceived from it, thus He did not sin, and the baptism of the Holy Spirit is how we receive the seed of the Father. Those of us who are actually born again have a new nature that is the opposite of the old carnal nature, and enables us to partake of the divine nature of God. 2 Peter 1:2-4; Romans 8:9
The problem I see in your post is that you seem to be taking choice out of the discussion. We sin because we choose to. For some reason, in heaven we will choose not to. Barney is asking why. Why will we choose not to in heaven? Same reason I believe we choose not to now. We have a progressively clearer understanding of who God is. We realise that we don't need to sin. He will look after us. Our love for Him grows exponentially as we better appreciate His love for us. It is His love for us, best revealed by His giving of Himself a sacrifice for sin, that motivates our love for Him, and the more we love, the less we sin. Thus love becomes the fulfilling of the law.
The question then becomes, do we want to cease from sin now, and how much? They're is nothing in scripture that suggests our characters are changed at the time of the Resurrection. Our bodies yes, but our thoughts and intents of the heart? They must be changed now... And it's God who has graciously provided all the motivation, the means, and the power to do so. The gospel is a thing of power.
KJV Ephesians 1
17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
It is creative power in the minds and hearts of all who believe, and that power comes to us through revelation of the nature and character of the God who while we were yet sinners, died for us.