Covid . . Are Americans totally stoopid??

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[QUOTE="Yehren, post: 808049, member: 8363]

No, you still don't get it. [/QUOTE]


LOL-
Your repetative sciolistic tendencies bore me.

 

[Yehren]

Your repetative sciolistic tendencies bore me.

("Sciolistic"; constantly bringing evidence into discussions in order to gobsmack ideologues)

In this case, my sciolisticism was to point out that "evil" had a different meaning when it was used in the KJV.

Also as a noun in Old English, "what is bad; sin, wickedness; anything that causes injury, morally or physically." Especially of a malady or disease from c. 1200. The meaning "extreme moral wickedness" was one of the senses of the Old English noun, but it did not become established as the main sense of the modern word until 18c.

 

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Yehren

Yawn

 

[Giuliano]

You're confused about what I said.



No, you still don't get it. You're trying to force a translation made hundreds of years ago, to fit modern definitions of words. And as you just learned, "evil" had a different meaning then.

In Old English and other older Germanic languages other than Scandinavian, "this word is the most comprehensive adjectival expression of disapproval, dislike or disparagement" [OED]. Evil was the word the Anglo-Saxons used where we would use bad, cruel, unskillful, defective (adj.), or harm (n.), crime, misfortune, disease (n.). In Middle English, bad took the wider range of senses and evil began to focus on moral badness. Both words have good as their opposite. Evil-favored (1520s) meant "ugly." Evilchild is attested as an English surname from 13c.

The adverb is Old English yfele, originally of words or speech. Also as a noun in Old English, "what is bad; sin, wickedness; anything that causes injury, morally or physically." Especially of a malady or disease from c. 1200. The meaning "extreme moral wickedness" was one of the senses of the Old English noun, but it did not become established as the main sense of the modern word until 18c. As a noun, Middle English also had evilty. Related: Evilly. Evil eye (Latin oculus malus) was Old English eage yfel. The jocular notion of an evil twin as an excuse for regrettable deeds is by 1986, American English, from an old motif in mythology.

evil (n.)

"anything that causes injury, anything that harms or is likely to harm; a malady or disease; conduct contrary to standards of morals or righteousness," Old English yfel (see evil (adj.)).
evil | Origin and meaning of evil by Online Etymology Dictionary

How Jesus used the words "good" and "evil" may help clear things up?

Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

 

[Giuliano]

Are Americans stupid? Uh. . . .

 

[Yehren]

Kelly Bundy was never that dumb.

 

[Yehren]

How Jesus used the words "good" and "evil" may help clear things up?

Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Evil fruit? I've always thought persimmons were untrustworthy, now that you mention it.

 

[Yehren]

 

[Yehren]

"The economy will be rocking by July."

 

[Yehren]

"First, ACSH is strictly non-partisan. That doesn't mean we don't have an ideology. We do. We are unapologetically pro-science and pro-technology. We also tend to favor free market solutions when possible, and as a general rule, we support freedom of choice for consumers. As a result, we have very strong opinions on science and health policy, but few opinions on which politician is best to implement them.


Second, we try not to be overtly political. Our readers and supporters (and, indeed, our own staff) have a wide variety of political beliefs, and we respect that. One way we do so is by referring to politicians only by their names, not by their political party. If somebody says something ridiculous, it doesn't really matter if there is a D or R behind their name.


Third, when we do criticize politicians and pundits, we make sure to maintain some semblance of balance. By now, everyone should realize that neither side of the aisle has a monopoly on stupidity. That's why we have criticized comments by people on the Right (e.g., former Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin, Fox News's Tucker Carlson) and the Left (e.g., Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, MSNBC's David Gura).


Finally, and perhaps most importantly, when we write an article, nobody here first asks, "How does this make Donald Trump look?" (Yes, we've actually been accused of that by someone calling himself a journalist.) The universe does not revolve around Mr. Trump, despite what he and his critics apparently believe. Therefore, when we write an article claiming that hydroxycroquine probably won't help treat COVID-19, that's not a veiled criticism of the president. Likewise, when we point out the objective fact that influenza kills more people than COVID-19 (at this point, anyway), that's not tacit support for any of Mr. Trump's statements.


Coronavirus Is Making Us All Stupid


The fact that literally everything has become political is, in many ways, worse for the country than the virus itself. It’s becoming obvious that (1) Blue America has increasingly little in common with Red America, and (2) it is difficult to tell who is acting in good faith.

On the one hand, the president’s critics are incentivized to exaggerate and even rewrite history. Some in the media, for instance, are pretending that they saw the COVID-19 pandemic coming, despite video evidence of the media claiming (as everybody was) that "influenza is worse than COVID-19." On the other hand, the president's supporters are incentivized to downplay the pandemic and to focus on the economy. Neither side trusts the other, complex arguments are oversimplified to the point of absurdity, and as a consequence, public health and the economy both suffer while America’s social fabric is ripped even further.


What nobody seems to understand is that America's problems are, in part, due to a colossal failure in leadership. To the extent that President Trump is responsible for botching a coordinated federal response -- and for having a long history of contradicting himself and his advisors over and over again -- he deserves some of the blame. But it's too easy (and for some, too tempting) to just stop there. In reality, the blame goes much further.


Consider New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who the media and many in the public view as a great hero. According to left-leaning The Nation, before COVID-19 nailed his state, Mr. Cuomo was busy shutting down hospitals and slashing Medicaid payments. The publication concluded that "Cuomo helped get New York into this mess."
Coronavirus Is Making Us All Stupid

 

[Giuliano]

Consider New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who the media and many in the public view as a great hero. According to left-leaning The Nation, before COVID-19 nailed his state, Mr. Cuomo was busy shutting down hospitals and slashing Medicaid payments. The publication concluded that "Cuomo helped get New York into this mess."
Coronavirus Is Making Us All Stupid

I thought too Cuomo and Trump were both too eager to make things political. Cuomo endeared himself to people on the left and Trump to people on the right. Neither impressed me. Mayor de Blasio also struck me as blundering. When New York found themselves short on ventilators, they whined about it to Washington -- and tried to shift all the blame onto Trump who whined and blamed them.

How New York City’s Emergency Ventilator Stockpile Ended Up on the Auction Block — ProPublica

In July 2006, with an aggressive and novel strain of the flu circulating in Asia and the Middle East, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg unveiled a sweeping pandemic preparedness plan.

Using computer models to calculate how a disease could spread rapidly through the city’s five boroughs, experts concluded New York needed a substantial stockpile of both masks and ventilators. If the city confronted a pandemic on the scale of the 1918 Spanish flu, the experts found, it would face a “projected shortfall of between 2,036 and 9,454 ventilators.”

The city’s department of health, working with the state, was to begin purchasing ventilators and to “stockpile a supply of facemasks,” according to the report. Shortly after it was released, Bloomberg held a pandemic planning summit with top federal officials, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, now the face of the national coronavirus response.

In the end, the alarming predictions failed to spur action. In the months that followed, the city acquired just 500 additional ventilators as the effort to create a larger stockpile fizzled amid budget cuts.

Even those extra ventilators are long gone, the health department said on Sunday. The lifesaving devices broke down over time and were auctioned off by the city at least five years ago because the agency couldn’t afford to maintain them.
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New York has high taxes. Why couldn't they afford things?

 

[Yehren]

Coronavirus cases among U.S. children jumped 40% in late July
Coronavirus infections among U.S. children grew 40% in the last half of July, according to a report from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Assn., bringing the total number of child infections to 8.8% of all U.S. cases.

The report, which aggregates data from 49 states, comes amid heated debate over whether schools should reopen in the fall. Although the surge of infections contradicts President Trump’s assertion that kids are “virtually immune,” the data also show that child infections make up a disproportionately small share of the overall outbreak in the U.S.

Many parents are eager to get their kids back in classes. Yet the coronavirus is still surging in much of the country, and there is conflicting data about how it is transmitted to and from children. Some schools that have already resumed classes have experienced outbreaks amid scenes of kids crowded together without wearing masks, raising fears that a full nationwide reopening in September will cause a new spike of infection.
Coronavirus cases among U.S. children jumped 40% in late July

So about 22.4 percent of people in the United States are U-18. Which means that children are only about 40% as likely to be infected by the virus as the average American.

That doesn't sound very safe to me.

 

[Grailhunter]

Coronavirus cases among U.S. children jumped 40% in late July
Coronavirus infections among U.S. children grew 40% in the last half of July, according to a report from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Assn., bringing the total number of child infections to 8.8% of all U.S. cases.

The report, which aggregates data from 49 states, comes amid heated debate over whether schools should reopen in the fall. Although the surge of infections contradicts President Trump’s assertion that kids are “virtually immune,” the data also show that child infections make up a disproportionately small share of the overall outbreak in the U.S.

Many parents are eager to get their kids back in classes. Yet the coronavirus is still surging in much of the country, and there is conflicting data about how it is transmitted to and from children. Some schools that have already resumed classes have experienced outbreaks amid scenes of kids crowded together without wearing masks, raising fears that a full nationwide reopening in September will cause a new spike of infection.
Coronavirus cases among U.S. children jumped 40% in late July

So about 22.4 percent of people in the United States are U-18. Which means that children are only about 40% as likely to be infected by the virus as the average American.

That doesn't sound very safe to me.

As usual you misrepresent the facts. Percentages can be misleading. A 40% increase of 1 is still less than one. A 1000% increase of 1 is 10. No one said they are immune. They are less likely to contract the virus and less likely to have serious complications. Certainly there are going to be exceptions and black children being more susceptible was already theorized for various reasons.

It is a distraction from the facts. The people that are at most risk are the elderly and more attention needs to be paid to them. Again I remind everyone to take care of their elderly and the elderly in their church and their community. They need to be shield with precautions, but not ignored. Call them and keep in contact and plan things that they can be included in. Socializing is important and means a lot to them, so safe outdoor activities should be planned. We have plenty of time to do this and it would mean so much to them.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

@Yehren....
You are so misinformed....
That's okay, at least the forum has come to discover you are not a credible source to rely on for accurate info.....Have a Blessed Day...and Trump is still the President!:):):):):):):)

You go, girl!

 

[Yehren]

Coronavirus cases lead over 800 to quarantine in Georgia school district where masks not required
Cherokee County School District drew attention last week when students without masks posed for a group photo.
Coronavirus cases lead over 800 to quarantine in Georgia school district where masks not required

A new poll in the traditionally red state of Georgia reveals some shifting attitudes over the COVID-19 pandemic. Among the surprising revelations: more Georgians (46%) trust Dr. Anthony Fauci to handle the coronavirus crisis over President Donald Trump (29%).

An exclusive opinion poll, conducted Aug. 6-8 for WXIA-TV in Atlanta by SurveyUSA, revealed that instead of the COVID-19 crisis uniting Georgians, the pandemic is only widened existing political fractures along party lines and making a united political response to curb the pandemic next to impossible.

"I think that is hampering us," said former Republican state representative Buzz Brockway. "A crisis should be something that brings us all together. But it’s not. It’s forcing us into some of our camps."

Among the major areas of agreement among Georgians:

*Thirty-seven percent of respondents believe the U.S. has done a poor job at controlling the spread of COVID-19. This percentage is more than three time higher than the number of those saying the country is doing an excellent job (9%). Twenty-eight percent rated the U.S. as fair and 23% as good.

* More Georgians (46%) trust Dr. Fauci to handle the coronavirus crisis compared to 29% who favored Trump. Twenty-five percent weren't sure.
Georgia Coronavirus Poll Shows 46% Trust Dr. Fauci Over Trump To Lead COVID-19 Response

 

[Grailhunter]

Can you say fear mongering and communist sympathizer….it is easy….democrat.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Coronavirus cases lead over 800 to quarantine in Georgia school district where masks not required
Cherokee County School District drew attention last week when students without masks posed for a group photo.
Coronavirus cases lead over 800 to quarantine in Georgia school district where masks not required

A new poll in the traditionally red state of Georgia reveals some shifting attitudes over the COVID-19 pandemic. Among the surprising revelations: more Georgians (46%) trust Dr. Anthony Fauci to handle the coronavirus crisis over President Donald Trump (29%).

An exclusive opinion poll, conducted Aug. 6-8 for WXIA-TV in Atlanta by SurveyUSA, revealed that instead of the COVID-19 crisis uniting Georgians, the pandemic is only widened existing political fractures along party lines and making a united political response to curb the pandemic next to impossible.

"I think that is hampering us," said former Republican state representative Buzz Brockway. "A crisis should be something that brings us all together. But it’s not. It’s forcing us into some of our camps."

Among the major areas of agreement among Georgians:

*Thirty-seven percent of respondents believe the U.S. has done a poor job at controlling the spread of COVID-19. This percentage is more than three time higher than the number of those saying the country is doing an excellent job (9%). Twenty-eight percent rated the U.S. as fair and 23% as good.

* More Georgians (46%) trust Dr. Fauci to handle the coronavirus crisis compared to 29% who favored Trump. Twenty-five percent weren't sure.
Georgia Coronavirus Poll Shows 46% Trust Dr. Fauci Over Trump To Lead COVID-19 Response

Georgians have been eating too many peanuts. Anyone who trusts Fauci is just plain nutty.

 

[Giuliano]

Can you say fear mongering and communist sympathizer….it is easy….democrat.

Okay, I've had enough of your name-calling. I sent an alert to moderators since I think you're over the top. What they do is their affair; but I'll be putting you on ignore for a while.

 

[Giuliano]

Coronavirus cases lead over 800 to quarantine in Georgia school district where masks not required
Cherokee County School District drew attention last week when students without masks posed for a group photo.
Coronavirus cases lead over 800 to quarantine in Georgia school district where masks not required

A new poll in the traditionally red state of Georgia reveals some shifting attitudes over the COVID-19 pandemic. Among the surprising revelations: more Georgians (46%) trust Dr. Anthony Fauci to handle the coronavirus crisis over President Donald Trump (29%).

An exclusive opinion poll, conducted Aug. 6-8 for WXIA-TV in Atlanta by SurveyUSA, revealed that instead of the COVID-19 crisis uniting Georgians, the pandemic is only widened existing political fractures along party lines and making a united political response to curb the pandemic next to impossible.

"I think that is hampering us," said former Republican state representative Buzz Brockway. "A crisis should be something that brings us all together. But it’s not. It’s forcing us into some of our camps."

Among the major areas of agreement among Georgians:

*Thirty-seven percent of respondents believe the U.S. has done a poor job at controlling the spread of COVID-19. This percentage is more than three time higher than the number of those saying the country is doing an excellent job (9%). Twenty-eight percent rated the U.S. as fair and 23% as good.

* More Georgians (46%) trust Dr. Fauci to handle the coronavirus crisis compared to 29% who favored Trump. Twenty-five percent weren't sure.
Georgia Coronavirus Poll Shows 46% Trust Dr. Fauci Over Trump To Lead COVID-19 Response

What I don't understand is why more school districts haven't been flexible in their approach. The situation in Georgia strikes me as politicized with some people wanting to do Trump's bidding too much. I get it -- I understand that many families face additional problems if their children can't go to school. Someone may have to stay home from work to be with them. That could mean a loss of income. Yes, I get that. I also get how parents decide they'd rather have their children at home even if it means losing some income.

I also get it that online classes, generally speaking, may not be as effective for all students. It would be advantageous to have open schools for students who aren't doing well with online classes. But I also get it that some students are motivated enough to do well with online courses. Indeed, I remember when some Christians were demanding school vouchers for online Christian classes.

Why must a school district issue orders to make everything so uniform? What about freedom? Why not allow students who want to study online do that as long as they're passing tests that would be given frequently to make sure they're not lagging behind too much? If the students and their parents like it, why not permit it? Why doesn't the school district encourage it? Of course, students who did start to lag should be warned that if they don't catch up, they'll be required to start attending on premises schools. This kind of flexibility would also mean less crowding in the halls and classrooms.

I was a little surprised when I saw the photo of students crowded together in a hall. What were they doing? Again it shows a lack of flexibility in thinking by the school board. Other schools decided to have teachers go from room to room. If there are twenty students in an English class and they're going to have that followed by a math class, why tell all the students to go into the hall to get to their next class? Why not have the math teacher come to them?

Why was the school district annoyed when a girl took the photo and put it on the internet? First they suspended her. Then they realized that made them look even worse and they lifted the suspension; but why were they so annoyed with her to begin with?

 

[Yehren]

Why was the school district annoyed when a girl took the photo and put it on the internet? First they suspended her. Then they realized that made them look even worse and they lifted the suspension; but why were they so annoyed with her to begin with?

If some asst. principal suspended my kid for blowing the whistle on him, he would have more than a virus to fear.