Like Revelation 10:7 and Revelation 11:15-18 declares, the mystery of God declared by His prophets, for this world, is finished, and The Father and The Son take over reign over all the kingdoms of this world, on that 7th angel sounding, which is the 7th Trumpet. There is not another one after that.
The mystery is finished but that doesn't mean that Jesus returns. And as for REv. 11, that also does not mean that the second half of REv. 19 is taking place.
YOu need to show why the seven bowls come before the 7th trumpet. Do they happen concurrently? why not just say so instead of having to have people declare they have had a revelation and now know the truth.
Don't you realize you aren't really staying with God's Word as written on the matter, but instead you are just regurgitating a doctrine of men you were taught that you chose to believe? The only reason 'you'... would presume the word 'saint' in God's Word doesn't mean Christ's Church is because of the pre-trib rapture doctor's false idea of 'tribulation saints' that they wrongly say means only Jews that come to Jesus during the tribulation. They made that idea up.
YOU keep accusing me of that and keep failing to provide any biblical evidence to support your accusation against me.
I would love for you to show me one generally accepted dispensational author of end times who says the Trib saints are only Jews. Every book I read says they are both Jew and gentile!
No I accept the word saint of others other than the body of Christ because OT righteous are called saints and God promised to keep the church out of the wrath to come!
Revelation 15
King James Version
15 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
I can rattle off over a dozen verses that call the tribulation period a time of Gods Wrath! But I can't find one verse calling hell or the lake of fire Gods Wrath!
YOU have tribulation saints (the church ) being kept safe during the tribulation according to REv. 3: 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Now we have not had a world wide trial yet, but we will. god promised the church to be kept from it. Folks like you says that mean god will just keep people safe during the tribulation, but yet millions of believers die in the trib period. Sorry but you can't have both! You can't be kept during the tribulation while many many many will be butchered by the AC and his govt.
And your just repeating their idea that we in Christ are not appointed to wrath, is a similar matter. That because the pre-trib rapture doctors wrongly teach that 'wrath' from 1 Thess.5 is about Satan's wrath during the tribulation, when Apostle Paul was teaching about the final day of this world with the "sudden destruction" that will come upon the deceived and wicked.
Well lying about "pre-trib doctors" teaching only makes you look smaller than you already make yuourself to be!
I dare you ti find an accepted author who calls teh tribulation, Satans wrath! No one I know does. We all know th eTribulation time is God pouring His wrath on earth.
You love making and attacking strawmen don't you!
Paul said that when people say Peace and safety, then swift and sudden destruction comes. I don't know if you have actuall yread teh book of Revelation, but I know of no one with an IQ higher than shoe size that would call anytime once the trib period starts until teh Lord returns as a time where people would say peace and safety!
1 Thessalonians 5
King James Version
5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
The Day of the Lord is not the return of the Lord! All OT prophecies show it is the period we call the tribulation. That will come suddenly like a thief.
As for the Lords return, I give you Gods Word for you to consider:
Matthew 24:23-30
King James Version
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
ALL THE TRIBES SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN- NO THIEF IN THE NIGHT HERE
LIGHTNING FLASHING- NOT A SECRET EVENT.
Revelation 1:7
King James Version
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM COME BACK. NO THIEF HERE
Revelation 19:11-15
King James Version
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS IS COMING LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT!!!