The Ten Commandments—What happened?

[CharismaticLady]

It doesn't say that exactly. It says that there remains a rest for the people of God. And this is talking about heaven, not one out of every seven days in the week.

Our rest is not in the future in heaven, but now. We are to rest in Christ.

Matthew 11:
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

BTW, don't expect an answer about G's quote. That verse doesn't exist.

It is funny, when I was SDA (until I was 23), Hebrews 4 was taught that it was not talking about the Sabbath day being God's rest. They knew it was Jesus. But now! Good grief, I never hear an SDA that doesn't teach that Hebrews 4 is about keeping the Sabbath day. And one person even says that "Jesus never gave us rest." But that person doesn't claim to be SDA. Don't know what they are. Maybe JW.

 

[Cooper]

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How long will it be, before Old Testament proselytizers understand New Testament Christians are not for changing?
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[justbyfaith]

Our rest is not in the future in heaven, but now. We are to rest in Christ.

I stand corrected.

But I will say that it is talking about heaven also.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

8εἰ γὰρ αὐτοὺς Ἰησοῦς κατέπαυσεν, οὐκ ἂν περὶ ἄλλης ἐλάλει μετὰ ταῦτα ἡμέρας. 9ἄρα ἀπολείπεται σαββατισμὸς τῷ λαῷ τοῦ Θεοῦ. 10ὁ γὰρ εἰσελθὼν εἰς τὴν κατάπαυσιν αὐτοῦ καὶ αὐτὸς κατέπαυσεν ἀπὸ τῶν ἔργων αὐτοῦ, ὥσπερ ἀπὸ τῶν ἰδίων ὁ Θεός.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

How long will it be, before Old Testament proselytizers understand New Testament Christians are not for changing?

Foul air

 

[CharismaticLady]

I stand corrected.

But I will say that it is talking about heaven also.

Really? Which verse.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Paul the apostle said that his testimony B.C. was that according to the righteousness which is in the law, he was blameless.

says ignoramus the great

 

[justbyfaith]

Really? Which verse.

It is common sense to understand that when we get to heaven, we will not any longer be labouring to enter into His rest.

Try Hebrews 4:10-11.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

It doesn't say that exactly. It says that there remains a rest for the people of God. And this is talking about heaven, not one out of every seven days in the week.

Remember to tell God on judgement day

 

[justbyfaith]

says ignoramus the great

I love you too; God bless you.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Our rest is not in the future in heaven, but now. We are to rest in Christ.

Matthew 11:
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

BTW, don't expect an answer about G's quote. That verse doesn't exist.

It is funny, when I was SDA (until I was 23), Hebrews 4 was taught that it was not talking about the Sabbath day being God's rest. They knew it was Jesus. But now! Good grief, I never hear an SDA that doesn't teach that Hebrews 4 is about keeping the Sabbath day. And one person even says that "Jesus never gave us rest." But that person doesn't claim to be SDA. Don't know what they are. Maybe JW.

Saved for reference

 

[justbyfaith]

Remember to tell God on judgement day

when I will be receiving reward for good deeds done; since I am saved by grace through faith.

 

[CharismaticLady]

It is common sense to understand that when we get to heaven, we will not any longer be labouring to enter into His rest.

Try Hebrews 4:10-11.

10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.

The way I see it, we better not be labouring, otherwise, we don't have the Spirit. LOL There is no struggle when walking in the Spirit.

I also see "ceasing from works," is going from Old Covenant to New Covenant, the ministry of the Spirit.

Just my thoughts on "works." Works are outside our sin nature. Rest in doing things naturally by the new nature.

 

[CharismaticLady]

says ignoramus the great

Interesting thing to say about Paul...

So you DON'T believe Paul wrote Hebrews?

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

when I will be receiving reward for good deeds done; since I am saved by grace through faith.

Remember to remind God of that as well on judgement day, good man!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

It is written, both things, sometimes you answer the fool; sometimes he is so foolish you don't answer him in any way.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

FOR THE HONOUR RECEIVED OF HAVING BEEN THE DAY THAT GOD RAISED CHRIST FROM THE DEAD, AND IN IT, RESTED ON, I believe the Sabbath.

 

[justbyfaith]

The way I see it, we better not be labouring, otherwise, we don't have the Spirit.

Labouring means we don't have the Spirit?

What then, of this?...

1Th 1:3, Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1Co 15:10, But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

Remember to remind God of that as well on judgement day, good man!

I won't have to; He already knows it.

(and, certainly not because I am good; but, because I have appropriated the blood of Jesus to my life and this means the forgiveness of my sins).

 

[CharismaticLady]

Labouring means we don't have the Spirit?

What then, of this?...

1Th 1:3, Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1Co 15:10, But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

Two different kinds of works. Paul wasn't labouring to be sinless, but in spreading the gospel. The struggle depicted in Romans 7:14-23 is about those under the law who had to keep it with a nature that was opposed to the law, vs. 13. Those under the law didn't have the Spirit to create a new nature that naturally kept the righteous requirements of the law, because the Spirit made them empowered by grace. Romans 8:1-9; 2 Peter 1:2-4