IF he comitted fornication , sex with another woman , or in this age man too , YOU GOT all the grounds for divorce and remarriage .
JESUS said save for FORNICATION .
I'm hearing you....
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IF he comitted fornication , sex with another woman , or in this age man too , YOU GOT all the grounds for divorce and remarriage .
JESUS said save for FORNICATION .
Doesn't fornication refer to premarital activity? the exception clause seems to refer to premarital activity discovered during the Jewish betrothal period, before the couple came together; it's interesting that Joseph and Mary had not come together when Joseph briefly considered putting Mary away but then the angel told him that he should not fear to take Mary to himself as his wife.IF he comitted fornication , sex with another woman , or in this age man too , YOU GOT all the grounds for divorce and remarriage .
JESUS said save for FORNICATION .
I'm not accepting what was said by him, though...I'm hearing you....
I'm not accepting what was said by him, though...
Are you saying fornication is not grounds for divorce?I'm not accepting what was said by him, though...
My point was that in Scripture where the two words fornication and adultery occur, fornication seems to refer to premarital activity, while adultery refers to something that happens within marriage. This was the point of my comment.I don't see why not. I absolutely do accept it. There's just a lot more I would like to say...or add ....or ask ....
Exactly ...that was something I mentioned in a previous post ..."what if he had a sexual relationship with a girlfriend before marriage to his wife?"My point was that in Scripture where the two words fornication and adultery occur, fornication seems to refer to premarital activity, while adultery refers to something that happens within marriage. This was the point of my comment.
Yes, but they may not have been in touch or aware of their wounding. And isn't everyone wounded and broken to a degree? I don't think there would be any marriages if we all waited until we were perfect. lol
not saying that you're right or wrong, but where is that in the bible?Abuse between spouses is not sanctioned in Scripture as a reason for divorce.
Thank you. The only answers worth considering will have scriptural basis.not saying that you're right or wrong, but where is that in the bible?
PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Does the Bible specifically give any rights to women/wives who are experiencing domestic violence?
I know a lot of people will give their opinions that a woman should leave in such cases. But is that supported Scripturally?
What advice can you give based upon the Word of God?
I'm fine with people sharing what a husband's duty is toward his wife. But that isn't the question here, because in the case of domestic violence, he obviously isn't holding up to his Biblical responsibility.
What has The Light to do with darkness. This man has no Biblical responsibility, for he walks in the darkness still, despite what his lips profess. What he has done unto her, he has done unto The Lord. This woman is free to leave and to forgive.(Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.) It will be hard for this woman to leave, for it the only thing she has known. But it is possible, for all things are possible with God.
Exactly ...that was something I mentioned in a previous post ..."what if he had a sexual relationship with a girlfriend before marriage to his wife?"
It would be in keeping with 1 Cor. 7 to stay how she is or be reconciled to her husband.Thank you. I can agree with this. And yet, she still may not remarry. Would you agree?
And yet, she still may not remarry. Would you agree?
not saying that you're right or wrong, but where is that in the bible?
PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
to all christian who may be following this topic, this is a very important subject. many a christian are suffering in a dead marriage. if I may I would like to share some light on Marriage and divorce.
Marriage and divorce, both is a two step process. understand both will clear up a lot of confusion on this subject.
A. Marriage. the steps. 1. espouse marriage. 2. consummated marriage. each have it own rules and regulation to follow.
B. Divorce. the steps. 1. Putting away. 2. Bill of Divorcement. each have it own rules and regulation to follow.
understanding each steps, we can understand scripture better. example in a 1. espouse marriage, and infidelity is found, there is no need for a bill of Divorcement, but putting away if nessary, but by the innocent party part. for an espouse marriage is not complete until one have sexual intercourse with his or her spouse. which bring us to 2. a consummated marriage, or fully married. yes, to get out of this marriage one just cannot put away their spouse. but a bill of divorcement must be given.
knowing these few things we can understand the scripture better.
since divorce is the hot topic, then there I'll start first. one can put away a spouse, on certian condition, (but not on every whim), but if not given a 2. Bill of Divorcement, then one is still Married. that's why in, 1 Corinthians 7:11 "But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife." one can only reconciled to her husband, because they are still married. hence remain unmarried, hence (no adultery or foricination). for all marriage have problems. if its get heated, separate, or depart. but for only a little while. this is what we call cooling off period. and why the Lord said, "reconciled to her husband". little disputes are salvageable.
so if one just "Put away" without step 2. Bill of Divorcement, in a 2. consummated marriage they are stilled married. and if one marry again without that bill of Divorcement, then you're an adulterers, or as our brother James puts it, James 4:4a "Ye adulterers and adulteresses". until you have that 2. Bill of Divorcement, in a 2. consummated marriage or until one of you physically die, then you're still married.
that's just one area where these laws come into play in divorce.
but knowing these terms, one can navigate in the scriptures more clearly.
PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
1 Cor 7:
[15] ... if the unbelieving depart, let him depart.