Marymog
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Lol...that doesn’t cancel out 2 Thessalonians. It’s not a either or choice
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2 Chr. 34:19
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‘We’ = Paul and the apostles...not romish delusion (liturgy)
Their ‘words’ are in The Bible
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"Let us love, since that is what our hearts were made for"
""""Spread love everywhere you go: first of all in your own house. Give love to your children, to your wife or husband, to a next door neighbor... Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness; kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile, kindness in your warm greeting.""
""""The things that we love tell us what we are.""""
"What does love look like? It has the hands to help others. It has the feet to hasten to the poor and needy. It has eyes to see misery and want. It has the ears to hear the sighs and sorrows of men. That is what love looks like."
"""Charity is the sweet and holy bond which links the soul with its Creator: it binds God with man and man with God."""
"We become what we love and who we love shapes what we become. If we love things, we become a thing. If we love nothing, we become nothing. Imitation is not a literal mimicking of Christ, rather it means becoming the image of the beloved, an image disclosed through transformation. This means we are to become vessels of God´s compassionate love for others. "
Giving is the nature of Love
Caring is the heart of Love
Doing is the proof of Love
Selfishness is the enemy of Love
""""Spread love everywhere you go: first of all in your own house. Give love to your children, to your wife or husband, to a next door neighbor... Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness; kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile, kindness in your warm greeting.""
""""The things that we love tell us what we are.""""
"What does love look like? It has the hands to help others. It has the feet to hasten to the poor and needy. It has eyes to see misery and want. It has the ears to hear the sighs and sorrows of men. That is what love looks like."
"""Charity is the sweet and holy bond which links the soul with its Creator: it binds God with man and man with God."""
"We become what we love and who we love shapes what we become. If we love things, we become a thing. If we love nothing, we become nothing. Imitation is not a literal mimicking of Christ, rather it means becoming the image of the beloved, an image disclosed through transformation. This means we are to become vessels of God´s compassionate love for others. "
Giving is the nature of Love
Caring is the heart of Love
Doing is the proof of Love
Selfishness is the enemy of Love
“We have been called to heal wounds, to unite what has fallen apart, and to bring home those who have lost their way.”
“Above all the grace and the gifts that Christ gives to his beloved is that of overcoming self.”
“A humble soul does not trust itself, but places all its confidence in God.”
“Know that the greatest service that man can offer to God is to help convert souls.”
“The secret of happiness is to live moment by moment and to thank God for all that He, in His goodness, sends to us day after day.”
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again: for forgiveness has risen from the grave!”
“Above all the grace and the gifts that Christ gives to his beloved is that of overcoming self.”
“A humble soul does not trust itself, but places all its confidence in God.”
“Know that the greatest service that man can offer to God is to help convert souls.”
“The secret of happiness is to live moment by moment and to thank God for all that He, in His goodness, sends to us day after day.”
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again: for forgiveness has risen from the grave!”
Julian Of Norwich
""""" The fourteenth-century anchoress known as Julian of Norwich offered fervent prayers for a deeper understanding of Christ's passion. The holy woman's petitions were answered with a series of divine revelations that she called "showings." Her mystic visions revealed Christ's sufferings with extreme intensity, but they also confirmed God's constant love for humanity and his infinite capacity for forgiveness.
Julian of Norwich's Revelations have had a lasting influence on Christian thought."""""
""""" The fourteenth-century anchoress known as Julian of Norwich offered fervent prayers for a deeper understanding of Christ's passion. The holy woman's petitions were answered with a series of divine revelations that she called "showings." Her mystic visions revealed Christ's sufferings with extreme intensity, but they also confirmed God's constant love for humanity and his infinite capacity for forgiveness.
Julian of Norwich's Revelations have had a lasting influence on Christian thought."""""
ChristisGod
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The Apostle John
BTW- Foxes book of martyrs should be in everyone library as a must read.
Philip James
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historyb
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I know right? Those who went on are more alive than we are. They are in reality while we toil away in falsity. We are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses. I do believe there are two Christianities one where we never die and one pitiful one where those who go on and are dead with no other hope.
2 Chr. 34:19
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Lord, make me an instrument of YOUR peace
Where there is hatred, let me sow love
Where there is injury, pardon
Where there is doubt, faith
Where there is despair, hope
Where there is darkness, light
And where there is sadness, joy
O Divine Master, grant that I may
Not so much seek to be consoled as to console
To be understood, as to understand
To be loved, as to love
For it is in giving that we receive
And it's in pardoning that we are pardoned
And it's in dying that we are born to Eternal Life
Amen
Where there is hatred, let me sow love
Where there is injury, pardon
Where there is doubt, faith
Where there is despair, hope
Where there is darkness, light
And where there is sadness, joy
O Divine Master, grant that I may
Not so much seek to be consoled as to console
To be understood, as to understand
To be loved, as to love
For it is in giving that we receive
And it's in pardoning that we are pardoned
And it's in dying that we are born to Eternal Life
Amen
The seemingly dead saints are very much alive -- in Heaven. God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
There are many saints from my church who I miss but still my favourite ones are the ones that are still around.
ChristisGod
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I can't pick just one. I have to go with the Apostle John - st John :) then the Apostle Paul- st Paul :)
Those who have been 'canonised' by the Catholic church are no more saints than the one who are living today i.e. all of those born again of the Holy Spirit to belong to God. Perhaps many of the so-called saints of old never knew Jesus in a personal way and so are not really saints.
historyb
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That's a bold statement, as if you all know what a personal relationship is when you can't even begin to comprehend it since you willingly cut yourselves off from Christ.
How do you make out that I'm 'cut off from Christ'? Is it because I'm not a catholic? I am not cut off from Jesus - willingly or otherwise. The bible calls all Jesus's followers saints.
April_Rose
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historyb
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I am not Catholic either so no it's not because your not Catholic. It is because you cut yourself off from Christ Real Presence so you willingly cut yourself off just like the disciples in John 6:50-66. Evangelicals (the same as in John 6:50-66) like yourself willingly cut yourself off because you refuse to believe Christ and eat of Him. Not all followers of Christ are real followers just those that do as the Master says:
So Jesus said to them, “I assure you: Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you do not have life in yourselves.
I was just reading more about St. Francis.
He is my favorite "saint", with Hildegard of Bingen and Jeanne Guyon, being my others.
In fact, You might investigate the writings of Hidegard and Jeanne, .... especially Jeanne, as this Saint was very prolific regarding the topic of prayer and inner communion with God.
All 3 of these Saints had a mystic's zeal and unique spiritual insight.
If you unfamiliar with Francis's bio, he was born into a wealthy family, and was a spoiled arrogant, but charming, hedonist.
When he was about 22 he had been in prison for a year having been captured and held for ransom.
While in the dark, small, dank, horrible prison he became ill and started having visions of God.
Fast forward... he devoted his life to Christ after getting a personal audible message from the Lord and took a personal vow of poverty, and never stopped preaching till he was very sick, and died when he was only 44, which was not unusual at that time, as meds were limited and life expectancy time was severely reduced as compared to today.
Francis preached to animals as well as to people.
He usual method to draw a crowd, was to go into a village and stand in the center of it, and start loudly singing hymns to God and Christ.
People would come out to see what this was all about, and he would have them join him and suddenly, revival kicked in..
Thats so amazing !
He is the most famous "saint" and i was personally offended when the most recent pope honored himself by taking Francis's name as his papal title.
Something interesting to note is that in those days, .. religious icons, including the bodies of important religious figures, were often stolen and taken to a village town and put on display.
They literally had to guard Francis's body, after his passing, to keep it from being stolen and used as a display in some town in Italy.
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He is my favorite "saint", with Hildegard of Bingen and Jeanne Guyon, being my others.
In fact, You might investigate the writings of Hidegard and Jeanne, .... especially Jeanne, as this Saint was very prolific regarding the topic of prayer and inner communion with God.
All 3 of these Saints had a mystic's zeal and unique spiritual insight.
If you unfamiliar with Francis's bio, he was born into a wealthy family, and was a spoiled arrogant, but charming, hedonist.
When he was about 22 he had been in prison for a year having been captured and held for ransom.
While in the dark, small, dank, horrible prison he became ill and started having visions of God.
Fast forward... he devoted his life to Christ after getting a personal audible message from the Lord and took a personal vow of poverty, and never stopped preaching till he was very sick, and died when he was only 44, which was not unusual at that time, as meds were limited and life expectancy time was severely reduced as compared to today.
Francis preached to animals as well as to people.
He usual method to draw a crowd, was to go into a village and stand in the center of it, and start loudly singing hymns to God and Christ.
People would come out to see what this was all about, and he would have them join him and suddenly, revival kicked in..
Thats so amazing !
He is the most famous "saint" and i was personally offended when the most recent pope honored himself by taking Francis's name as his papal title.
Something interesting to note is that in those days, .. religious icons, including the bodies of important religious figures, were often stolen and taken to a village town and put on display.
They literally had to guard Francis's body, after his passing, to keep it from being stolen and used as a display in some town in Italy.
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