Perpetual virginity of Mary!

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Doesn't mean that he wasn't.
It was dogmatically decided at the Council of Nicaea in 325AD

Yes you go beyond what is written even though the scriptures tell us not to.

 

[theefaith]

Explain the transfiguration? Or walking on water or Mk 2:5

 

[theefaith]

Where does the Bible say pride presumption and arrogance are Christian virtues?

spiritual blindness is the scales that came off Sauls eyes, he thought he was righteous and was doing the will Of God but was persecuting Christ!

 

[amigo de christo]

Acts 4:8-12-- Then Peter was filled with the Holy Spirit and said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders: If we are being examined today about a good deed done to a disabled man — by what means he was healed — let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene — whom you crucified and whom God raised from the dead — by Him this man is standing here before you healthy. This Jesus is the stone rejected by you builders, which has become the cornerstone. There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to people, and we must be saved by it.”

Yes indeed . sing to the glorious king . And there is only one mediator between GOD and men , the man Christ JESUS .
If mary was a mediator , paul , peter and all others never said so . THEY SAID JESUS ONLY .
You know how it is said that we will judge even the angels . Mary herself and peter himself will also judge
And rest assured i bet peter tells the popes , I WAS never POPE and MARY might even say , YALL should have been praying TO GOD
and HEEDING the SON . They gonna tear that doctrine apart on judgment day .
Just keeping it as real as i can . Rather odd they say peter was the first pope . YET to me , IF we read the bible ,
we see the apostels seemed to be all equals . If peter had been ruler over them , you think it might have been mentioned at least once .
SOmeone would have said , KISS the ring of peter , HE IS the vicar . YALL , flee rome and never look back .
And if we read what mary said to the servants , SHE said HEED HIM . MARY is blessed . THAT IS Truth
But what the catholic church has done , MARY will be judging , as will all the saints One day . I say we cling to BIBLES
and learn JESUS well and the apostles well . I got a feeling a few might be agreeing with that too .

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Doesn't mean that he wasn't.
It was dogmatically decided at the Council of Nicaea in 325AD

Yes like I said you go by what imperfect humans say and believe not what God's Holy Spirit inspired men to write down. Just as this council didn't care what Jesus himself about his relationship with his Father.

 

[amigo de christo]

I do not think the Bible is mute

it states Jesus had brothers. (Not cousins)

and it said joseph did not KNOW his wife until after the birth of Jesus.
Inspite of the claims contrary, this sentence is meaningless if he “never” knew his wife.

My friend you took the line i was gonna bring . HAD mary remained a virgin
IT would never have said , TILL AFTER . that JOSPEH knew not HIS WIFE , TILL AFTER .
IT would have said , HE NEVER KNEW HIS WIFE . But it said , HE KNEW HER NOT , UNTIL AFTER the BIRTH OF JESUS .
VERY clear indeed . VERY clear indeed . Folks , mary is blessed , but even she gonna judge that church .
And peter too . cause peter was never no pope over that place . THEY lived as JESUS told them. AS EQUALS .
You be blessed now . And dont forget to PRAISE THE HOLY LORD . YEP , SING TO THE GLORIOUS KING .

 

[amigo de christo]

for broad is the way that leads unto destruction .
When i research pope francis , did you all know i actually go to the catholic sites themselves .
To see what the man actually said .
What i say next , even some catholics agree with me on this one .
that is the most dangerous and deceptive pope that has ever sat the throne , at least in my lifetime .
If you ever want to see his twenty sixteen prayer request , i got it . Right off the catholic website
with Their own translations .
So when i said Broad is the way that leadeth unto destruction . That man has made the road so broad
its almost unbeleiveable . WELL has i not seen it with my own eyes . That man is creating a one world
all inclusive social religoin . And about the only ones not welcome , are those who prolosyetize JESUS .
But i will bring his speeches on that stuff too . If any likes .
yall . we better cling to JESUS and that BIBLE and do so to the final breath .
Cause the delusion of the all inclusion that sprang from ecumincalism , its sucking up even many protestant leaders .
This wee thing is , by grace , going out as i came in , JESUS ONLY and one BOOK , the BIBLE . You all be blessed now . AND
be on gaurd .

 

[Prayer Warrior]

But Jesus was in Mary! The ark of the new covenant!

How can it be any clearer?? NO OTHER NAME BUT JESUS CHRIST!

 

[Illuminator]

Nowhere did the Holy Spirit inspire men to write down that the Only Begotten Son of God was the second person of the Trinity.

"second person of the Trinity" is not explicit in Scripture. It was a theological DEVELOPMENT made necessary due to the attacks of heretics. We can start with the heresiarch ARIUS, whose teachings are embraced by the JW's. Whether you admit it or not, you are an Arian.
Nowhere did the Holy Spirit inspire 5 unqualified men to write down a twisted version of the New Testament.

Trinity deniers should be restricted to a single forum. The JW's, the SDA's, the Christadelphians, and legions of others can argue with each other and derail their own threads.

The basics of the Trinity is accepted by non-Catholic Christians, Protestant Christians, Orthodox Christians, and Catholic Christians. Trinity deniers prove to be a constant nuisance on every forum on the Internet.

 

[Illuminator]

for broad is the way that leads unto destruction .
When i research pope francis , did you all know i actually go to the catholic sites themselves .
To see what the man actually said .
What i say next , even some catholics agree with me on this one .
that is the most dangerous and deceptive pope that has ever sat the throne , at least in my lifetime .
If you ever want to see his twenty sixteen prayer request , i got it . Right off the catholic website
with Their own translations .
So when i said Broad is the way that leadeth unto destruction . That man has made the road so broad
its almost unbeleiveable . WELL has i not seen it with my own eyes . That man is creating a one world
all inclusive social religoin . And about the only ones not welcome , are those who prolosyetize JESUS .
But i will bring his speeches on that stuff too . If any likes .
yall . we better cling to JESUS and that BIBLE and do so to the final breath .
Cause the delusion of the all inclusion that sprang from ecumincalism , its sucking up even many protestant leaders .
This wee thing is , by grace , going out as i came in , JESUS ONLY and one BOOK , the BIBLE . You all be blessed now . AND
be on gaurd .

RULE VIOLATION:
No Flaming, Goading or Harassment.
I count at least 8 uncharitable LIES posted by an angry anti-Catholic media zombie who lacks the education to spell "ecumenism" properly.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

"second person of the Trinity" is not explicit in Scripture. It was a theological DEVELOPMENT made necessary due to the attacks of heretics. We can start with the heresiarch ARIUS, whose teachings are embraced by the JW's. Whether you admit it or not, you are an Arian.
Nowhere did the Holy Spirit inspire 5 unqualified men to write down a twisted version of the New Testament.

Trinity deniers should be restricted to a single forum. The JW's, the SDA's, the Christadelphians, and legions of others can argue with each other and derail their own threads.

The basics of the Trinity is accepted by non-Catholic Christians, Protestant Christians, Orthodox Christians, and Catholic Christians. Trinity deniers prove to be a constant nuisance on every forum on the Internet.

For the record - not every person whom has disagreements with Creedal statements should be considered a nuisance, or in my opinion be segregated like on ChristianForums (*shudder*).

People being irritating and obnoxious is about that poster's personality, not their beliefs.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

"second person of the Trinity" is not explicit in Scripture. It was a theological DEVELOPMENT made necessary due to the attacks of heretics. We can start with the heresiarch ARIUS, whose teachings are embraced by the JW's. Whether you admit it or not, you are an Arian.
Nowhere did the Holy Spirit inspire 5 unqualified men to write down a twisted version of the New Testament.

Trinity deniers should be restricted to a single forum. The JW's, the SDA's, the Christadelphians, and legions of others can argue with each other and derail their own threads.

The basics of the Trinity is accepted by non-Catholic Christians, Protestant Christians, Orthodox Christians, and Catholic Christians. Trinity deniers prove to be a constant nuisance on every forum on the Internet.

I've read about that. The problem with all that is the council completely ignored what God's Holy Spirit inspired men to write down what Jesus himself said about his relationship with God. I care more about what Jesus said about his relationship with his Father who is God.

 

[Illuminator]

It was decided in scripture, we do not need some counsel to decide what is true

Without councils, there would be no scriptures in the first place.

 

[Illuminator]

I've read about that. The problem with all that is the council completely ignored what God's Holy Spirit inspired men to write down what Jesus himself said about his relationship with God. I care more about what Jesus said about his relationship with his Father who is God.

Oh give me a break! You care more about Sam Rutherford's opinions than you do about 2000 years of consistent teaching. So the WTS wrote up their own distorted bible to justify them. No legitimate council ever deviated from the essence what Jesus said. That is just asserted, never proven.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

"second person of the Trinity" is not explicit in Scripture. It was a theological DEVELOPMENT made necessary due to the attacks of heretics. We can start with the heresiarch ARIUS, whose teachings are embraced by the JW's. Whether you admit it or not, you are an Arian.
Nowhere did the Holy Spirit inspire 5 unqualified men to write down a twisted version of the New Testament.

Trinity deniers should be restricted to a single forum. The JW's, the SDA's, the Christadelphians, and legions of others can argue with each other and derail their own threads.

The basics of the Trinity is accepted by non-Catholic Christians, Protestant Christians, Orthodox Christians, and Catholic Christians. Trinity deniers prove to be a constant nuisance on every forum on the Internet.

That's interesting, Jesus tells his true followers to speak to everyone. After all he sacrificed his human life for all mankind and like his father who is God doesn't wish anyone to be destroyed. We JW will witness to anyone. Sorry you don't love like Jesus does who wants us to witness to everyone.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Without councils, there would be no scriptures in the first place.

So god is incapable?

scripture was around long before any council did anything

 

[Illuminator]

Yes indeed . sing to the glorious king . And there is only one mediator between GOD and men , the man Christ JESUS .
If mary was a mediator , paul , peter and all others never said so . THEY SAID JESUS ONLY .

Mary was never taught she a mediator the same as Jesus. That is a lie propagated by angry, ignorant anti-Catholic bigots. "Jesus-onlyism" was a sect that deviated from the Pentecostal movement in the 1950's. "Christ alone" is one of the 5 shibboleths that the reformers borrowed wholesale from the Catholic Church. It was not a "rediscovery". Since you know so little about your own religion, what qualifies you to be so critical of Catholicism (with lies)???

 

[Illuminator]

So god is incapable?

scripture was around long before any council did anything

Your denials make discussion with you IMPOSSIBLE. Sorry, the Bible did not fall from the sky!

 

[Illuminator]

That's interesting, Jesus tells his true followers to speak to everyone. After all he sacrificed his human life for all mankind and like his father who is God doesn't wish anyone to be destroyed. We JW will witness to anyone. Sorry you don't love like Jesus does who wants us to witness to everyone.

BARNEY BRIGHT will be ignored for his condescending harassments and using CB as a soap box for preaching the Arian heresy.

 

[Illuminator]

Constantly parading threads praising a mortal, focusing almost exclusively on that, putting almost all of your energy into that, and trying to convince others to do the same. Do you do the same for Christ Himself? No.

You personally do not venerate her (as I know many Catholics do), but flat out worship. Yes, it is a violation of the First Great Commandment.

Proper Catholicism is not the cult of Mary worship, but rather about Christ. @theefaith, re-focus back on Him.