That was written to folks that were already saved and baptized.
This was written to affirm the church in Rome's faith.
I think you knew that, correct?
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This was written to affirm the church in Rome's faith.
I think you knew that, correct?
LOL!!! """IF"" UNDERSTAND IF????? if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved.
Here is how to get a scripture to harmonize itself...
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
but he that believeth not shall be damned. ""And is NOTbaptized shall be damned"". Does not say that!!!
As a born again believer, I practice that often as possible as an affirmation of my faith.
Don't you?
Read the rest of the verse= "he that believeth not shall be damned."===NOT he who is not baptized shall be damned!!! Baptism saves no one!
mailmandan
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That's not what Jesus said "He who believes and is baptized will be saved".
Peter said "Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you".
That seems very clear - baptism saves.
LOL!!
Jesus said "He who believes and is baptized will be saved".
Peter said "Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you".
That seems very clear - baptism saves.
I think that you are mistaking me with some other posters here who are contending that a man cannot be saved apart from water baptism. That is not what I am contending. I am contending that baptism has the power to save a man; while a man may also be saved merely by "believing" ("should not perish"....John 3:16), "calling on the name of the Lord" ("shall be saved"...Romans 10:13).
Iow, baptism has the capability of sealing the deal so that you can have absolute assurance of salvation...while merely believing is "iffy" ("should not perish"....John 3:16).
If I confess Jesus before men apart from baptism, most assuredly, Jesus will confess me before the Father and before His holy angels.
If I confess Jesus before men in baptism, that also has the power to save me; in that I am confessing Jesus before men, and He will also confess me before the Father and His holy angels.
The difference between the first and the second confession is that in the second, I am identifying with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection....and this cannot help but be a special type of confessing Him before men, that is more effective than merely confessing Him with my mouth...which will also save; if it is done before men.
When you get saved, do you come out of your situation a sinner?
What does it matter if you got saved through water or if you got saved through a mere confessing of Him with your mouth?
In confessing Him with your mouth, you come up out of that situation a sinner.
If you get saved through water baptism, you come up out of that situation a wet sinner.
Either way, you come up out of that situation, a saved sinner.
I say to you verily that everyone who is saved through water baptism comes up out of that water "a wet sinner"....saved nevertheless!
The baptism is "for the remission of sins" and the promise is the Holy Ghost...and He is also absolutely promised conditionally in Acts of the Apostles 2:38-39.
If someone does not believe they will not be baptized.
Jesus is smart enough to figure that out, right?
mailmandan
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I think you got baptized in the titles too many times. You must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ to obtain remission of sins, not the titles.
mailmandan
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amigo de christo
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BELIEVE IN JESUS . Confess him BY MOUTH and BELEIVE from the heart that GOD has raised him from the dead . AND YE shall be saved .
Course dead faith aint real faith as james said .
But you need to go tell this to mr inclusive . Whatever you do BLOOD BOUGHT , never follow Rome .
cause mr inclusive is saying , that folks dont even have to confess JESUS by mouth , that even muslims and buddists
and whoever , if they are just doing good to one another , Already are saved and know GOD .
talk about a FAT LIE that one is . Remember , ROME is not ya home .
Do not be as the many other protestants that are all headed to unity within those chambers . Watch out for it .
Okay . on the subject of dead faith . Well even the devils actually beleive and tremble .
So if our faith has not works , its dead . For if JESUS , the SPIRIT is in us , we would have good works .
Bottom line===Baptism saves no one!!!
OOPS!!! Did God forget to tell us that we MUSTbe baptized to be saved????
Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
GOD SAYS=
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession
is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be Saved....................OOPS!!! Did God forget to tell us that we must be baptized to be saved????
OOPS!!! Did God forget to tell us that we MUSTbe baptized to be saved????
Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
GOD SAYS=
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession
is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be Saved....................OOPS!!! Did God forget to tell us that we must be baptized to be saved????
2 Chr. 34:19
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