Miracles, Signs and Wonders

[Waiting on him]

@Waiting on him Thanks; part of faith is to acknowledge one's limitations and become comfortable in them as the Lord enables.

Amen.

 

[Waiting on him]

@Waiting on him Thanks; part of faith is to acknowledge one's limitations and become comfortable in them as the Lord enables.

I would indeed love to see Him heal all of our health issues, but the truth is He uses them I believe to teach.

 

[amadeus]

She was out like a light for 45 minutes, and experienced a dramatic healing.

Give God the glory!

 

[farouk]

I would indeed love to see Him heal all of our health issues, but the truth is He uses them I believe to teach.

@Waiting on him Paul indeed said something similar when he spoke of his 'thorn in the flesh' (2 Corinthians 12.7).

 

[Waiting on him]

@Waiting on him Paul indeed said something similar when he spoke of his 'thorn in the flesh' (2 Corinthians 12.7).

Absolutely, that he would not be exalted above measure.sadly I believe this is the motive.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Good to hear. I had one popped in about four months ago, it was really weird when he got the Cath in around one of the valves my heart started fluttering like crazy. I figured that was the procedure you were having done and knew you’d be ok.

Fluttering? Yikes. I didn't feel a thing. I am home now and can't do anything for two days, but keep my arm propped up in a sling and not more my wrist. Did you see a great improvement in your health afterwards? I'm just the same as before. Nancy, on here, suggested Platypnea, so I asked my cardio doctor about that and he said I would have to go to a pulmonary doctor.

 

[CharismaticLady]

@Waiting on him Paul indeed said something similar when he spoke of his 'thorn in the flesh' (2 Corinthians 12.7).

Hi, farouk

Just so you know about the verse about the thorn in the flesh. It is not about illness, in that case, but bad people he had to deal with - like people talking against him, or false teachers. God's grace was sufficient for Paul to deal with them.

Thorn in the flesh is a Hebrew idiom on par with our "pain in the neck." Like "my mother-in-law is a pain in the neck."

Judges 2:3
3 Therefore I also said, ‘I will not drive them out before you; but they shall be thorns in your side, and their gods shall be a snare to you.’ ”

 

[Enoch111]

Just so you know about the verse about the thorn in the flesh. It is not about illness...

Not "illness" but a physical disability. The "flesh" means the physical body, and just as a thorn stuck in a part of the body would cause extreme discomfort, Paul's physical disability caused him extreme discomfort and distress. It could have been poor eyesight (after he was blinded) since he signed his epistles with large letters.

It could also have been in his limbs, since he was beaten severely on several occasions. But it has nothing to do with bad people or evil spirits. "A messenger of Satan" could mean that Satan mocked and troubled Paul about this disability, since it prevented him from physically functioning normally.

 

[Waiting on him]

Fluttering? Yikes. I didn't feel a thing. I am home now and can't do anything for two days, but keep my arm propped up in a sling and not more my wrist. Did you see a great improvement in your health afterwards? I'm just the same as before. Nancy, on here, suggested Platypnea, so I asked my cardio doctor about that and he said I would have to go to a pulmonary doctor.

I thought my health was fairly good prior to all of it, was just having some odd chest and neck pain prior to all of it.

I had went to one specialist that just wanted to give meds after running on a treadmill, but I wanted to be more conclusive so I called another specialist and told him I wanted to know for certain, and there’s only one way to do that.
When I experienced the fluttering I asked the dr and he told the nurse to give me some more of something and I didn’t remember anything after that.

 

[Waiting on him]

Not "illness" but a physical disability. The "flesh" means the physical body, and just as a thorn stuck in a part of the body would cause extreme discomfort, Paul's physical disability caused him extreme discomfort and distress. It could have been poor eyesight (after he was blinded) since he signed his epistles with large letters.

It could also have been in his limbs, since he was beaten severely on several occasions. But it has nothing to do with bad people or evil spirits. "A messenger of Satan" could mean that Satan mocked and troubled Paul about this disability, since it prevented him from physically functioning normally.

I’d have thought as much as you harp on context that you’d have a better understanding of what was going on in that church.

 

[MattMooradian]

When and how will it be fulfilled the scripture that says the saints will do even greater works than our Lord did?

This is a great question. I've been waiting for this to become manifest in the Body of Christ. Jesus made this promise, as well. "Even greater works then these shall ye do." "All things are possible to those who believe." "Nothing shall be impossible to them that believe." I stress the words: 'nothing' and 'all things'. Do you believe this is will occur at a certain point in time? That is not my reading. I believe it indicates that from the time of Jesus' death these miracles will be possible.

 

[ChristisGod]

This is a great question. I've been waiting for this to become manifest in the Body of Christ. Jesus made this promise, as well. "Even greater works then these shall ye do." "All things are possible to those who believe." "Nothing shall be impossible to them that believe." I stress the words: 'nothing' and 'all things'. Do you believe this is will occur at a certain point in time? That is not my reading. I believe it indicates that from the time of Jesus' death these miracles will be possible.

The Apostles together did greater works which began at Pentecost with the salvation of the multitudes and the growth of the early church with the greatest miracle of all which is ETERNAL- the New Birth.

Not more remarkable miracles, but referring to the wider work of the apostolic ministry under the dispensation of the Spirit. This work was of a higher nature than mere bodily cures. Godet truthfully says: "That which was done by St. Peter at Pentecost, by St. Paul all over the world, that which is effected by an ordinary preacher, a single believer, by bringing the Spirit into the heart, could not be done by Jesus during His sojourn in this world." Jesus' personal ministry in the flesh must be a local ministry. Only under the dispensation of the Spirit could it be universal.vincent word studies

miracles the apostles wrought, though wholly in His name and by His power, and the "greater" works—not in degree but in kind—were the conversion of thousands in a day, by His Spirit accompanying them. JFB

hope this helps !!!

 

[Waiting on him]

This is a great question. I've been waiting for this to become manifest in the Body of Christ. Jesus made this promise, as well. "Even greater works then these shall ye do." "All things are possible to those who believe." "Nothing shall be impossible to them that believe." I stress the words: 'nothing' and 'all things'. Do you believe this is will occur at a certain point in time? That is not my reading. I believe it indicates that from the time of Jesus' death these miracles will be possible.

Well, He Himself said that to restore a mans hands limbs or eyes was really no great thing, think about it.

 

[Waiting on him]

The Apostles together did greater works.

@Christophany tell them what the greater works are, and I’m not talking about restoring some dirt.

 

[ChristisGod]

@Christophany tell them what the greater works are, and I’m not talking about restoring some dirt.

I edited my last post

 

[Waiting on him]

The Apostles together did greater works which began at Pentecost with the salvation of the multitudes and the growth of the early church with the greatest miracle of all which is ETERNAL- the New Birth.

Not more remarkable miracles, but referring to the wider work of the apostolic ministry under the dispensation of the Spirit. This work was of a higher nature than mere bodily cures. Godet truthfully says: "That which was done by St. Peter at Pentecost, by St. Paul all over the world, that which is effected by an ordinary preacher, a single believer, by bringing the Spirit into the heart, could not be done by Jesus during His sojourn in this world." Jesus' personal ministry in the flesh must be a local ministry. Only under the dispensation of the Spirit could it be universal.vincent word studies

hope this helps !!!

Well stated.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Not "illness" but a physical disability. The "flesh" means the physical body, and just as a thorn stuck in a part of the body would cause extreme discomfort, Paul's physical disability caused him extreme discomfort and distress. It could have been poor eyesight (after he was blinded) since he signed his epistles with large letters.

It could also have been in his limbs, since he was beaten severely on several occasions. But it has nothing to do with bad people or evil spirits. "A messenger of Satan" could mean that Satan mocked and troubled Paul about this disability, since it prevented him from physically functioning normally.

So is someone's mother-in-law a vampire to be a pain in the neck?

I'm not saying Paul didn't have poor eyesight, but Satan used people not agreeing with him to be a thorn in his side, and to prevent him from getting too big for his britches from having such a powerful relationship from God with all this heavenly knowledge.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I thought my health was fairly good prior to all of it, was just having some odd chest and neck pain prior to all of it.

I had went to one specialist that just wanted to give meds after running on a treadmill, but I wanted to be more conclusive so I called another specialist and told him I wanted to know for certain, and there’s only one way to do that.
When I experienced the fluttering I asked the dr and he told the nurse to give me some more of something and I didn’t remember anything after that.

Hospital drugs, hey? I thought they would give me something like that, and they did, but I didn't feel any different. A glass of wine does more. Did they tell you what percentage was blocked and where? Mine was about 70% on one of the three main arteries. But I had no prior pain in my chest or arm at all. I just couldn't stand for more than 10 minutes without hyperventilating. My pain was in my back muscles spasming. But when I sat back down, it goes away immediately. It is still the same.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I would indeed love to see Him heal all of our health issues, but the truth is He uses them I believe to teach.

I think one of the reasons us old folk get feeble (speaking for myself), is to long for heaven, rather than the things of earth. I know I do.

 

[marks]

But it has nothing to do with bad people or evil spirits. "A messenger of Satan" could mean that Satan mocked and troubled Paul about this disability, since it prevented him from physically functioning normally.

It seems to me "messenger of Satan sent to beat him" could easily refer to people who followed him around, getting him persecuted . . .

But that's just me!